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Killswitch
12-07-2007, 02:53 PM
http://breakfree.amd.com/en-us/default.aspx

Hans
12-07-2007, 03:47 PM
Truth is Intel has currently the upper hand in the CPU market. However, If AMD were smart, they would put their efforts into R&D to regain the upper hand in the graphics market. This is something Intel will not be able to beat them in.
Then they could use that as a stepping stone to regain the upper hand in the CPU market.
If not, they might be the under dog in both markets for a long time...

Ultra54
12-07-2007, 03:52 PM
Seems kinda lame, sour grapes stuff.

Hans
12-07-2007, 04:01 PM
December 13 we will know more about AMD and their future plans. It would not surprise me if they put ATI and a few of their fabs up for sale...

Maryms
12-07-2007, 04:01 PM
Oh so now AMD has screwedd up their chips and blame Intel and now they claim monopoly ... come on AMD you can do better then that.

Maryms
12-07-2007, 04:04 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hans</div><div class="ubbcode-body">December 13 we will know more about AMD and their future plans. It would not surprise me if they put ATI and a few of their fabs up for sale...</div></div>

Yes i am sure they will be looking into selling off our once proud Canadian Video Card manufacturer and if they do this.

My prediction when they bought ATI would come true and that prediction was (they would keep it for what they want and either sell it off or close it up) if this hold to be true either way it would royally suck for us consumers.

Hans
12-07-2007, 04:05 PM
I never understood why they bought them in the first place...

Maryms
12-07-2007, 04:12 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hans</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I never understood why they bought them in the first place...</div></div>

They wanted to make intergrated GPU/CPU technology and need ATI's technology to do so, but it appears they are floundering at that as well right now. They also wanted to make a CPU intergrated onto a Video Card, this seem plausible, but again we have not even seen such technology arrive.

ATI did not want to give the info to AMD on how to make such technology possible, so AMD bought them out.

AmdWolfman
12-07-2007, 04:50 PM
I'ld rather have AMD own them before Intel in my eyes anyways.

Killswitch
12-07-2007, 05:03 PM
I think AMD has a decent case here. Many are saying Intel has been abusing their position at the top of the food chain and are trying to snuff out the competition. They used strategies such as threatening to jack prices to computer makers if they switched to AMD when the Athlon64's were kicking butt. When Opterons were better why did most corporations stay with Intel servers? This allowed Intel to keep making more dough then AMD and that's why they were able to develop something better in the end. You can't create new and better technology when you have no money to play with.

Maryms
12-07-2007, 05:05 PM
Thats business in the real world, money talks and BS walks.

Killswitch
12-07-2007, 05:29 PM
Did you read anything or are you just typing whatever you feel like putting in this thread?

Killswitch
12-07-2007, 05:39 PM
Athlons and Optys were top notch pieces of silicon in their day, which wasn't that long ago. Why weren't they able to produce something wild from the money they made from that? They didn't sell enough of them to finance the kind of research they needed to do is my guess.

Maryms
12-07-2007, 06:12 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Killswitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Did you read anything or are you just typing whatever you feel like putting in this thread?</div></div>

I read and i read and have this BS for about 10 years now as AMD has always cried fowl.

Maryms
12-07-2007, 06:14 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Killswitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Athlons and Optys were top notch pieces of silicon in their day, which wasn't that long ago. Why weren't they able to produce something wild from the money they made from that? They didn't sell enough of them to finance the kind of research they needed to do is my guess.</div></div>

Yes they were good for their day...they never made lots of cash cause they sucked at marketing and still do. They don't have the power to man handle the industry.

AmdWolfman
12-07-2007, 06:55 PM
holy crap,lol

Ultra54
12-08-2007, 11:49 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">RTTY </div></div>?

AmdWolfman
12-08-2007, 11:57 AM
I sshoulda just put crap instead.the reason was for a post someone made in that thread, but i just ran my fingers across the k-board

filthy
12-08-2007, 11:58 AM
AMD had great products not so long ago, and must had made some decent coin. Sounds to me like AMD's problem is their own mismanagement, unwise spending, they never advertise and now a lineup of faulty or mediocre products.

I bet a bunch of the top executives walked off with a bunch of money, then blew the last of their capital on buying ATI, which I still believe and always will that it was a huge mistake....and possibly their downfall.

Now instead of just competing with a massive company that is Intel...they now have to compete with another Goliath in Nvidia.