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\m/ Rich \m/
01-16-2008, 09:04 PM
hey guys... im looking for a standalone ATX motherboard tray, or if you have a junk case with removeable ATX motherboard tray, that would be good as well.

looking for something roughly like this, but does not have to have the side part with the slots and fan holes.

pm me with what you've got. *looks at mboy*

http://www.techaddicts.net/reviews/atc201c/tray1.jpg

Cruel_Intentions
01-17-2008, 02:31 PM
lol, what do you need that for rich?

\m/ Rich \m/
01-17-2008, 04:41 PM
http://blog.makezine.com/Submerged017.jpg

Killswitch
01-17-2008, 06:24 PM
Where are you going to get the fluid?

\m/ Rich \m/
01-17-2008, 06:37 PM
Mineral oil shouldnt be THAT hard to come by, especially only 6 gallons.

filthy
01-17-2008, 06:46 PM
hahaha.....WOW

Overclocker with too much time and a set of giant grapes!

mboy67
01-17-2008, 07:17 PM
You Know what if you use the wrong stuff you will kill your parts. Also Never submerse the HD.

Sorry I got rid of the bad cases I had last month.

hemi_69
01-17-2008, 07:32 PM
You can get mineral oil at drugstores, it's a bit pricy to get enough but worht it, Vegetable oitl and some others will also work but when they start to disperse the heat it smells like a deepfryer lol, also looks gross cause it's yellow.
I looked into this a few months back but opted out before I actually did it, if you do it let me know the results for sure.
What Size motherboard are you planning on using? I may have a tray kicking around form an old system

Cruel_Intentions
01-18-2008, 02:51 AM
lol, I saw that a while ago, please tell me your not going to be putting your quadcore system in it?!?!?!

dumdum
01-18-2008, 09:56 AM
Using the mineral oil would be the best to use like Lee said... vegetable oil will make it stink after a while... lol.. I also hope ur not goin to throw th quad in there lmao .. that would be just wrong lol.. i think rich has been lookin at tomshardware.com too much... hey... try this one Rich lmao:

http://www.tomshardware.com/site/flash_videos/beer_cooling_comparison_international_edition.html

DarkAssassin
01-18-2008, 10:43 AM
i just watched a video of this on http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php and i think it a really neat setup not to sure i would try it but let me know how it goes

dumdum
01-18-2008, 11:02 AM
I like the beer one lmao... just cus if u run out... u always have a supply .. lmao.. im sure someone drunk enuff would probably drink your computer away tho lol..

\m/ Rich \m/
01-18-2008, 12:27 PM
Hemi, my board is ATX, please let me know if you've got anything.

And yes, my Quad WILL be going into the oil.

Trinity, that's the idea i think im gonna go with... ive seen other versions, but that one by far looks the best.
This is an idea i've been stuck on for about a year now... gonna test run with crappy hardware first... then the "big rig".

gonna try and find a pump and rad to cycle the oil, or possibly put my watercooling system on.. not sure exactly which way things are gonna go yet.

DarkAssassin
01-18-2008, 05:13 PM
let me know when you have it done i would love to see this thing in action i'm kinda stuck on the idea to i was showing my wife and she just thought it was the kewlest thing ever

sniderscott2
01-18-2008, 05:34 PM
i have 3 for sale, all quads 1500

sniderscott2
01-18-2008, 05:34 PM
each

Hans
01-18-2008, 07:24 PM
What's the flash point of mineral oil, anyone know?

hemi_69
01-18-2008, 08:42 PM
Flash point: 135C (275F)
Autoignition temperature: 260-370C (500-698F)
if it gets that hot he has far bigger problems lol

hemi_69
01-18-2008, 08:44 PM
the one I have is ATX, I'll dig it out of the shed tomorrow for you, it's kinda snowed in lol, I'll get measurements and a couple pics and you can let me know if it'll work for you or not

Cruel_Intentions
01-19-2008, 02:18 PM
I don't think I'd be putting the power supply in the oil, being in the Electrical Technology program, I'd be a little hesitant about that.

Why don't we trade back cases Rich and you can drill out the rivits on the motherboard tray and use that. The case isn't welded anywhere, so it should come apart pretty easy

\m/ Rich \m/
01-19-2008, 05:58 PM
im gonna see what lee's got first, but thats an option

DarkAssassin
01-19-2008, 07:18 PM
hey there cruel intentions there is no harm submersing electrical objects ie the power supply in the oil cause the oil acts like a big rubber glove oils have been used with electrical stuff for a long time its the same as put grease in spark plug wires or have grease smeared over electrical components to protect them from water mind you i still would stick my hand in the oil once its all plug in but it won't short out cause its in the oil remember to unplug first eh rich lol

hemi_69
01-19-2008, 09:27 PM
Here's what I found Rich, 10.5" by 10"
not sure how you would mount cards though as theres no back piece.
you're also welcome to the whole case if you feel like doing some cutting

FRONT
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/hemi_69/Front.jpg

BACK
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/hemi_69/back.jpg

mboy67
01-19-2008, 09:30 PM
Looks like one for a micro board.

Killswitch
01-20-2008, 12:41 AM
Sorry, but I can't help but to kinda smirk about that "Velcro Crafts" book in the first pic there Hemi....... I won't ask. lol

sniderscott2
01-20-2008, 01:51 AM
They are safe to do crafts. no tying involved.

hemi_69
01-20-2008, 03:37 AM
lmao, they're fun as heck ok...and they're cut out when I buy them and so I don't have to use sharp scissors anymore cause last time it went ALL wrong

nah i have 3 kids coulda been worse lol

mboy67
01-24-2008, 05:35 PM
did you find one yet?

If not I now have one you can have.

Cruel_Intentions
01-24-2008, 06:35 PM
Sweet Trinity - yes PURE oil is non-conductive, but if the oil were to be contaminated with something, it could become conductive and pose a shock hazard.

There is an experiment carried out in high school physics/chemisty classes where a circuit is made with 120V AC and a light bulb and a tub of water. If the water is pure, it will not conduct and therefore the light bulb will not light, but if sodium is added (salt), the water becomes conductive and the light bulb will light. While oil is much more difficult to contaminate, it is possible, and with Rich's little one running around, I wouldn't chance it personally.

Oh, and then there is the problem of some oils being flammable

P.S: Not saying Rich's little one is bad or anything, but I know how curious mine is and I'm amazed at what little hands can get into in the shortest amount of time (IE when you have your back turned)

DarkAssassin
01-24-2008, 11:49 PM
oh trust me cruel i know how fast little ones can get into trouble...when our little guy was about a year old he got ahold of a little mirror that we had gotten from avon and it had 4 tiny watch batteries in it and well he got one out and swallowed it was like not even 1/1000th of a sec and it was in his stomach thank god he passed it okay the next day. But anyways i know what you are talking but the chances of his mineral oil catching fire or being contamined are slim to none

IamMe77
01-25-2008, 01:37 AM
Okk I got to say I think its a bad idea if teh firemen come to your door dont be surprised never a good idea to put oil on stuff like that. and that type of oil is the worst of the worst
ever watch survivor man. starting a fire mineral oil can be used to help start fire so dont think its such a good idea. if you ever watch survivor man good show and gives you an idea that it would be extremely bad idea to use it the way your thinking.
I hope I dont hear of firemen coming to your house to put out a fire dont take me the wrong way I have good intentions. Im not trying to get on your bad side but its not worth having a early funeral by doing this. cause of a fire by the way Ive looked it up over the internet as well not good not good at all
Im only saying this cause I care for people dont want to see someone hurt or killed.

\m/ Rich \m/
01-25-2008, 01:29 PM
i've already well looked into the risks of doing this project and i dont see a problem. the flashpoint of mineral oil is 135 degress Celsius. Destruction of my components will occur at a much lower temp than what it'll take for the whole thing catching fire.

What kinda tray you got kicking around mboy?
Socrates has one he's gonna drop off for me, but id like to see what you have Mboy.

hemi_69
01-25-2008, 03:00 PM
exactly, LONG before it hits that temp the system is going to shut itself down and be pretty well done with but with the heat dispersion he'll get from the oil he'll never have to worry about that

DarkAssassin
01-25-2008, 07:33 PM
hey there lovetosing there is a project like this in the link that i provided on the first or second page and there's has been running for over six months with no problems you should read it. Here is the link again http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php