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bluekrissyspikes
01-18-2008, 01:59 AM
#1 reason not to beleive blindly in the bible...
http://cbs2chicago.com/watercooler/man.cooks.hand.2.626537.html
Blame the Bible, not his mental illness. Right.
You shouldn't believe anything "blindly".
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aydeloof</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
You shouldn't believe anything "blindly".
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Now THAT'S rich!!!
bluekrissyspikes
01-18-2008, 08:07 PM
maybe it sounds dum but the bible did tell him to do it.
Soundbear
01-18-2008, 08:25 PM
He only thought so.
Because he has a problem.
starterwiz
01-18-2008, 08:36 PM
I was in a similar situation once, and the same verse came to the front of my awareness.
The "problem" is in the teaching that the Bible is totally holy, and the final word of God.
Satan can use the words against anyone experiencing a spiritual emergency who is taught to have blind faith.
The Bible IS holy and totally the Word of God.
How can this push one over the edge?
starterwiz
01-19-2008, 01:06 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aydeloof</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Bible IS holy and totally the Word of God.
How can this push one over the edge?
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That's not quite the same thing 'tho.
It is certainly not the final Word.
I remember being in a very manic state of mind, and felt like God and Satan were playing tug of war with me. I began reading the Bible, searching for an explanation for some of the "coincidences" that were occurring to and around me.
The more aware I became of God's power, the more it seemed that these events were occurring.
I noticed that randomly opening the Bible would reveal words that had direct and immediate relevance to the question of the moment. In most cases I followed the answers and directions I found, and they led to wonderful outcomes. There was a stretch of several weeks, where it seemed that I had tapped into a source of unlimited power, and that each and every prayer was answered.
At one point, I had burned a finger with very hot glue, and the blister became very ugly. I remeber opening the Bible to the passage about better to lose a limb, and wondered if it was another "message from God".
I can easily empathise with someone with less education, and a slightly more unstable mental state taking the passage litrally.
Eventually, these phenomena faded away for me, after careful examination of the real cause and affect of the situation, and have taken a more "normal" place in my life.
I remeber seeing a shrink, who thought I was "crazy", and my first question to him was "Do you believe in God?"
His reply was "It's irrelevant. If you have spiritual questions, see a priest. Now take these drugs."
Needless to say, I did not see him again, but found a professional that was able to comprehend the relationship between spiritual and mental issues. I was lucky I guess.
mokitapupita
01-19-2008, 06:57 AM
mental illness? lots of it
starterwiz
01-19-2008, 07:49 AM
Mental illness is sometimes hard to define.
Cutting one's hand off is a pretty good indicator that that this individual is responding inapproriately to whatever voices he is hearing.
Unfortunately, the excessive belief in God, and tendancies to focus on religious matters is often a "symptom" of mental illness.
A great deal of internal mental conflict results if one has a strong faith, and a scientific background. The majority of society believes that God is silent, even tho they may profess to have faith in Him. Anyone who actually "hears God" must be insane.
It's fine to believe in God, as long as you ignore Him.
Teachings of God and His power refer to many miracles that happened thousands of years ago, yet most religions do not teach or prepare us to deal with them if they happen today. And yet they do.
I think it's a miracle that I wake up on the right side of the grass every morning. Most just call that "normal".
KDawg
01-19-2008, 07:53 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bluekrissyspikes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">#1 reason not to beleive blindly in the bible...
http://cbs2chicago.com/watercooler/man.cooks.hand.2.626537.html </div></div>
2 points here.
1. If (and I do mean IF) the man was reading Matthew, it was this passage from Matthew 5:29-30, "If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell."
If one reads that, Jesus was obviously speaking metaphorically (is that the right word?) about avoiding sin at all costs. It's not the bible's fault if a person misinterprets it -- responsibility lies with the person to get understanding. I say this can be said about any book.
2. That very short article only speaks of the man in the first sentence, " A man who believed he bore the "mark of the beast" used a circular saw to cut off one hand, then he cooked it in the microwave and called 911, authorities said."
The last paragraph reads, "The book of Matthew also contains the passage: "And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell."
Nowhere does the article quote the man as saying he read anything in the bible. You are absolutely right bluekrissy. Do not believe anything blindly, especially articles written by hacks.
starterwiz
01-19-2008, 08:12 AM
It would appear that he was suffering from a guilty conscience and feared eternal damnation more than the loss of his hand.
He must have had some reason to believe that he was in peril.
bluekrissyspikes
01-19-2008, 03:30 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: starterwiz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was in a similar situation once, and the same verse came to the front of my awareness.
The "problem" is in the teaching that the Bible is totally holy, and the final word of God.
Satan can use the words against anyone experiencing a spiritual emergency who is taught to have blind faith. </div></div>
my point exactly
bluekrissyspikes
01-19-2008, 03:45 PM
i am not against beleiving in anything, i have my own faith, and i have gone through periods of time where, like started, i had several experiences that led me to beleive what i do. i just think people should figure out what they beleive in on their own. if you find that in the bible or christianity, or the catholic church then by all means fallow your hearts. (: interesting story though, wasn't it?
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