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Karen-Annie
03-21-2008, 01:29 PM
From the Toronto Star:

neo-atheists/fundamentalists (http://www.thestar.com/article/349380)

Interesting ideas.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> "They believe they have a right to impose this truth on the rest of us," he says, adding such ideas are fundamentally undemocratic.

Hedges,prefers a more liberal approach to understanding scripture, and criticizes both fundamentalists and atheists for rejecting the legitimacy of liberal theology.

It's something else they share, he says, because both prefer simple answers to complex questions.

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I'll bet they won't see that they have the same mind-set as Hedges suggests.

Soundbear
03-21-2008, 02:48 PM
Intersting the way you quote, there, Karen. The fisrt sentence is referring to scientific proof used by atheists, not religious views.

also:

"Both externalize evil, and that's wrong,"

Simplistic and untrue.

"Humans will never outgrow it (sin) through evolution, as the atheist authors contend, nor can anyone (Jesus included) relieve us of it, as fundamentalist Christians believe, Hedges says.

Wrong. Christians don't believe that Jesus relieves us of sin. His sacrifice COVERS us, washes us, but as long as we live, we sin.

GenX
03-22-2008, 09:21 AM
It doesn't "cover" us.

Soundbear
03-22-2008, 09:46 AM
“Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, [and] from the noisome pestilence. He shall cover (sakak) thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth [shall be thy] shield and buckler.” (Ps 91:3-4 AV)

“Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth(kasah)all sins.” (Pr 10:12 AV)

“Then shall he kill the goat of the sin offering, that [is] for the people, and bring his blood within the vail, and do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it (kaphar)upon the mercy seat, and before the mercy seat:” (Le 16:15 AV)

THree Hebrew words meaning cover, or in their roots.

GenX
03-22-2008, 09:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">simplistic views of the meaning of evil and love </div></div>

In other words, we need more relativism.

Soundbear
03-22-2008, 09:51 AM
One of us answers, one of us argues - with EVERYBODY.

Not hard to see which is which.

GenX
03-22-2008, 09:54 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One of us answers, one of us argues - with EVERYBODY.

Not hard to see which is which. </div></div>

you "answer"????????

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Oh my!!!!

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Soundbear
03-22-2008, 09:55 AM
"Laugh it up, fuzzball" Han Solo /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

GenX
03-22-2008, 09:55 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One of us answers, one of us argues - with EVERYBODY.

Not hard to see which is which. </div></div>

One of us listen to the Church founded right after Jesus. The other listens to man-made ruminations, many of which are no older than 150 years.

Not hard to see which is which. /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

GenX
03-22-2008, 09:56 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Laugh it up, fuzzball" Han Solo /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif </div></div>


"RGGGGHHHH RaHHHHHH AHHH RRRRRR GHHHHHH"
-Chewbacca

Soundbear
03-22-2008, 09:57 AM
Yup, yup yup!! /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

Keep talking yourself into it!! /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

GenX
03-22-2008, 10:00 AM
Happy Easter, Slugger! /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

GenX
03-22-2008, 12:13 PM
Slugger??? /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif