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riggs
03-31-2008, 10:19 PM
Ok poolies,what are your playoff predictions for the East and West.

oneof3
03-31-2008, 11:37 PM
I'll wait until everything is set first. Hate to pick San Jose for example to win it all only to find out later that the Oilers made the playoffs.

riggs
04-04-2008, 11:58 AM
Current Stats...April 4th (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=StandingsPage&type=CON)

GenX
04-05-2008, 05:10 PM
Maybe we should wait until the playoff seedings are set? /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/idea.gif

haha
04-05-2008, 08:32 PM
wings out in first round, no matter who they play. 6 games.

GenX
04-05-2008, 09:33 PM
Which is six games more than the Leafs will be playing this year /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

haha
04-05-2008, 09:53 PM
would be a great comeback, if i were a leafs fan

riggs
04-06-2008, 09:44 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe we should wait until the playoff seedings are set? /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/idea.gif </div></div>

Still hesitant to pick the Wings despite their excellent season?

I believe the odds are quite high against the President Trophy winners.

riggs
04-06-2008, 09:49 PM
April 6th (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=StandingsPage&type=CON)

GenX
04-06-2008, 10:19 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: riggs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe we should wait until the playoff seedings are set? /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/idea.gif </div></div>

Still hesitant to pick the Wings despite their excellent season?

I believe the odds are quite high against the President Trophy winners. </div></div>

You're right, Riggs.

We should start a playoff prediction thread before the playoffs are even set.

Brilliant idea. /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/beerchug.gif

riggs
04-06-2008, 10:35 PM
Your confidence will come back,just be patient.

I hear if you think of baseball you'll last longer.... /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/beerchug.gif

GenX
04-06-2008, 10:38 PM
/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rofl.gif /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/lol.gif

Camper now looks good

GenX
04-06-2008, 10:39 PM
How are your LEAFS doin', Riggs???

riggs
04-06-2008, 11:06 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How are your LEAFS doin', Riggs??? </div></div>

I'm glad they didn't make it RW...they just would have embarrassed themselves more.I look forward to a lot of new faces next season.I hope they take the same approach as Pittsburg or Chicago.Take their time assembling a team that will be there to grow together.I would rather see a young inexperienced team losing but growing together.
If they haven't learned that patches aren't the solution then they never will.

riggs
04-06-2008, 11:07 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe we should wait until the playoff seedings are set? /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/idea.gif </div></div>

So you'll make your predictions tomorrow???

GenX
04-06-2008, 11:12 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: riggs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How are your LEAFS doin', Riggs??? </div></div>

I'm glad they didn't make it RW...they just would have embarrassed themselves more.I look forward to a lot of new faces next season.I hope they take the same approach as Pittsburg or Chicago.Take their time assembling a team that will be there to grow together.I would rather see a young inexperienced team losing but growing together.
If they haven't learned that patches aren't the solution then they never will.

</div></div>

The words only the fan of a truly pathetic and losing organization could spew out /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/lol.gif

Good for you! Denial ain't just a river in Africa!

GenX
04-06-2008, 11:12 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: riggs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe we should wait until the playoff seedings are set? /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/idea.gif </div></div>

So you'll make your predictions tomorrow??? </div></div>

Yes sir!!! /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/high5.gif

GenX
04-06-2008, 11:13 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: riggs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe we should wait until the playoff seedings are set? /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/idea.gif </div></div>

So you'll make your predictions tomorrow??? </div></div>

Now, don't you agree that is a better time to make playoff predictions, than your original idea, which was to make them before the playoffs seedings were set? /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

Strife
04-07-2008, 02:54 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Denial ain't just a river in Africa! </div></div>

I believe the saying goes "Denial aint just a river in Egypt"

oneof3
04-07-2008, 03:01 AM
Conference Quarter Finals
Montreal(1) vs Boston(8) winner: Montreal 4-1
Pittsburgh(2) vs Ottawa(7) winner: Pittsburgh 4-2
Washington(3) vs Philadelphia(6) winner: Philly 4-2
New Jersey(4) vs New York(5) winner: New York 4-2

Detroit(1) vs Nashville(8) winner: Detroit 4-1
San Jose(2) vs Calgary(7) winner: San Jose 4-2
Minnesota(3) vs Colorado(6) winner: Colorado 4-3
Anaheim(4) vs Dallas(5) winner: Anaheim 4-2

Conference Semi-Finals
Montreal(1) vs Philly(6) winner: Montreal 4-2
Pittsburgh(2) vs New York(5) winner: Pittsburgh 4-2

Detroit(1) vs Colorado(6) winner: Colorado 4-2
San Jose(2) vs Anaheim(4) winner: Anaheim 4-3

Conference Finals
Montreal(1) vs Pittsburgh(2) winner: Pittsburgh 4-2
Colorado(6) vs Anaheim(4) winner: Anaheim 4-3

Stanley Cup Finals
Pittsburgh vs Anaheim winner: Anaheim 4-1

GenX
04-07-2008, 01:24 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Canadian13</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Denial ain't just a river in Africa! </div></div>

I believe the saying goes "Denial aint just a river in Egypt" </div></div>

/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/lol.gif

Exactamundo!

GenX
04-07-2008, 01:48 PM
Conference Quarter Finals

Eastern Conference

Boston / Montreal...Montreal 4-2

Ottawa / Pittsburgh...Pittsburgh 4-3

Philadelphia / Washington...Washington 4-3

New York Rangers / New Jersey...New York 4-2


Western Conference

Nashville / Detroit...Detroit 4-2

Calgary / San Jose...San Jose 4-1

Colorado / Minnesota...Minnesota 4-2

Dallas / Anaheim...Anaheim 4-2


Conference Semi Finals

Eastern Conference

New York / Montreal...Montreal 4-2

Washington / Pittsburgh...Washington 4-2

Western Conference

Anaheim / Detroit...Detroit 4-3

Minnesota / San Jose...San Jose 4-2


Eastern Conference Final

Washington / Montreal...Washington 4-2


Western Conference Final

San Jose / Detroit...San Jose 4-2


Stanley Cup Final

Washington / San Jose...San Jose 4-1

Super Gram
04-07-2008, 02:14 PM
Eastern Conference

Montreal Bruins

Montreal in 6
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Pittsburgh Senators

Pittsburgh in 6
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Washington Philly

Phylly 6
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N.J. Rangers

N.J. in 7
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Western Conference

Rwd Wings Nashville

Wings in 6
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San Jose Calgary


San Jose in 6
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Minn Colorado

Colorado 5
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Aneh Dallas

Duckies 7

GenX
04-07-2008, 03:17 PM
Riggs, so far this thread is about as popular as Canadian prime- time television shows.

You better do some promotin'

GenX
04-07-2008, 05:05 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: riggs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe we should wait until the playoff seedings are set? /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/idea.gif </div></div>

So you'll make your predictions tomorrow??? </div></div>

As you can see, I have.

Can we expect yours before June 1st?

riggs
04-07-2008, 09:26 PM
Conference Quarter Finals

Eastern Conference

Boston / Montreal...Montreal 4-2

Ottawa / Pittsburgh...Pittsburgh 4-3

Philadelphia / Washington...Washington 4-2

New York Rangers / New Jersey...New Jersey 4-3


Western Conference

Nashville / Detroit...Detroit 4-2

Calgary / San Jose...San Jose 4-2

Colorado / Minnesota...Minnesota 4-3

Dallas / Anaheim...Anaheim 4-2


Conference Semi Finals

Eastern Conference

New Jersey / Montreal...Montreal 4-3

Washington / Pittsburgh...Pittsburgh 4-3

Western Conference

Anaheim / Detroit...Detroit 4-3

Minnesota / San Jose...San Jose 4-2


Eastern Conference Final

Pittsburgh / Montreal...Montreal 4-3


Western Conference Final

San Jose / Detroit...San Jose 4-2


Stanley Cup Final

Montreal / San Jose...San Jose 4-2

haha
04-08-2008, 09:20 AM
montreal in 4
ottawa in 6
washington in 5
new jersey in 7

nashville in 6 (no RWGR u didnt pop the wrong pill ur reading it right)
san jose in 5
colorado in 6
anaheim in 4

nu812
04-08-2008, 05:34 PM
sorry RIGGS AND RWGR your predictions could never work out like that. It looks like you put a lot of work into so I hate to send you back to the drawing board.
If your 1st rnd predictions hold true then your 2nd round matchups are wrong. The NHL re seeds teams according season pts. so RIGGS your 2nd rnd matchups would be as follows:

Detroit vs Minnesota
San Jose vs Anaheim
Montreal vs Washington
Pittsburg vs New Jersey

RWGR your matchups for the 2nd rnd would be as follows:

Pittsburgh vs New York
Montreal vs Washington
Detroit s Minnesota
San Jose vs Anaheim

GenX
04-08-2008, 06:56 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">sorry RIGGS AND RWGR your predictions could never work out like that. It looks like you put a lot of work into so I hate to send you back to the drawing board.
If your 1st rnd predictions hold true then your 2nd round matchups are wrong. The NHL re seeds teams according season pts. so RIGGS your 2nd rnd matchups would be as follows:

Detroit vs Minnesota
San Jose vs Anaheim
Montreal vs Washington
Pittsburg vs New Jersey

RWGR your matchups for the 2nd rnd would be as follows:

Pittsburgh vs New York
Montreal vs Washington
Detroit s Minnesota
San Jose vs Anaheim
</div></div>

That's why I was going to wait, and see if we'd do each round as it goes.

The seeding question is this: Does the fact you are a three seed, regardless of the fact lower seeds have more points than you, but because you won your division you are higher, still remain the three seed, even if teams with more points survive to round two?

That's the part I wasn't sure on, so went on the assumption a division winner would still maintain a three seed, at worst, throughout the entire playoffs, even thought the fourth seed may actually have more points.

nu812
04-08-2008, 08:00 PM
Sorry, my bad. I forgot about the division winner exception. Seeds 1-3 remain the higher seed no matter what thier point total is. Only seeds 4-8 are re-seeded. So Washington would remain a higher seed than everyone except Pit and Montreal.

GenX
04-09-2008, 05:18 PM
http://selflaugh.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/red_wings.gif

Let's Go RED WINGS!!

Let's Go RED WINGS!!

Let's Go RED WINGS!!

Let's Go RED WINGS!!

haha
04-09-2008, 06:25 PM
yup lets go, go out in the first round that is.

GenX
04-09-2008, 07:45 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: haha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yup lets go, go out in the first round that is. </div></div>

Well, if we do, we know it will be tough playing any Leafs on the golf course, as they've spent the last three Aprils with a nine iron in their hands, not a hockey stick. /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

riggs
04-09-2008, 08:56 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://selflaugh.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/red_wings.gif

Let's Go RED WINGS!!

Let's Go RED WINGS!!

Let's Go RED WINGS!!

Let's Go RED WINGS!! </div></div>

Well there's no arguing they have a better chance than Toronto

oneof3
04-10-2008, 01:23 AM
I'm hoping the Wings make it a few rounds since I have 4 of their players in my pool. If their goaltending was better, I might have picked them to win it all.

GenX
04-10-2008, 06:14 PM
I have 4 Wings on my fantasy playoff team as well.

The strange thing is, the team I have the most players from is the Habs.

The times, they are a-changin'

haha
04-11-2008, 09:09 AM
so much for my anaheim in 4

washawee
04-11-2008, 09:47 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1of3</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> If their goaltending was better, I might have picked them to win it all. </div></div>


Osgood had the top GAA in the season, and Hasek was 4th.

oneof3
04-11-2008, 10:42 AM
Conklin was way up there as well, yet he isn't a starter. Detroit has the ability, unlike many teams ever, to make a washed up starter like Osgood and a past his prime like Hasek look good, but numbers tend not to tell the whole story. They are weak in goal. Every team in the playoffs in the west with the exception of Nashville, and only then because of his experience, has better goaltenders and only Anaheim has better overall defense, just not better defensive forwards.

puppy
04-11-2008, 11:30 AM
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a14/sharray/dal.jpg

go stars go!!!

GenX
04-12-2008, 10:07 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1of3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Conklin was way up there as well, yet he isn't a starter. Detroit has the ability, unlike many teams ever, to make a washed up starter like Osgood and a past his prime like Hasek look good, but numbers tend not to tell the whole story. They are weak in goal. Every team in the playoffs in the west with the exception of Nashville, and only then because of his experience, has better goaltenders and only Anaheim has better overall defense, just not better defensive forwards. </div></div>

They won the Jennings Trophy.

How does that fit with your theory about their goaltending?

Please don't say it's because of their "D", because Detroit's "D" is their weak spot.

GenX
04-12-2008, 10:08 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: puppy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a14/sharray/dal.jpg

go stars go!!! </div></div>

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>TURCO</span>

http://www.vivisect.org/choke/choke_full.gif

oneof3
04-12-2008, 11:09 AM
They won the Jennings Trophy.

How does that fit with your theory about their goaltending?

Please don't say it's because of their "D", because Detroit's "D" is their weak spot. [/quote]


It really sucks having a Norris winner and another HOF'er on defense to contribute to a "weak" defense, as well as some of the best two way forwards in the game. The carnage their goaltenders must endure on a nightly basis. They face the least amount of shots against of any team in the league, and not by a narrow margin. Do you even watch your team or do you just give all the credit for the total team award Jennings trophy to the goaltenders to make your argument?

GenX
04-12-2008, 11:55 AM
After Lidstrom and Rafalski, the Wings "D" drops off considerably.

The Wings give up the least amount of shots because they subscribe to the idea that the best defense is a potent offense. They play a puck-control game. It's hard to get shots on net when you don't have the puck.

I'm not saying the "D" doesn't contribute to the fact the team won the Jennings. But I am saying it is a bit strange to say Detroit's goaltending is bad. It is not stellar, but it isn't bad, either. Their goalies do not need to steal games for them because they are such an offensive powerhouse, they just need to keep them in games.

oneof3
04-12-2008, 12:08 PM
I didn't say they are bad, I said they are weak. Compared to the other playoff teams in their conference, only Nashville and Dallas have as weak or weaker goaltending, and really only including Ellis because of the lack of experience. Turco I wouldn't consider that way except for what everyone knows happens come playoff time. The only reason Osgood is even on the team was to back up Hasek, who, lets not kid ourselves, isn't close to what he once was. They would have gotten likely as much out of Howard this year. Not to say Osgood hasn't performed admirably, all things considered, but in all honestly, do you really feel comfortable with these two facing teams like Anaheim and San Jose, and even Calgary?

GenX
04-13-2008, 09:32 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1of3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I didn't say they are bad, I said they are weak. Compared to the other playoff teams in their conference, only Nashville and Dallas have as weak or weaker goaltending, and really only including Ellis because of the lack of experience. Turco I wouldn't consider that way except for what everyone knows happens come playoff time. The only reason Osgood is even on the team was to back up Hasek, who, lets not kid ourselves, isn't close to what he once was. They would have gotten likely as much out of Howard this year. Not to say Osgood hasn't performed admirably, all things considered, but in all honestly, do you really feel comfortable with these two facing teams like Anaheim and San Jose, and even Calgary? </div></div>

I feel more confident with Osgood now than I did in September. He had an awesome run, up until the All Star break.

As soon as he signed the new contract, he played like crap for a long stretch. That was so predictable with him, because he's such a head case at times.

I agree with the Jimmy Howard comment. I don't know why Wings management and coaches are so taken with older players, especially at goal. Howard was more than adequate when called upon during the season.

As for Anaheim, I'm not quite sure we'll have to worry about facing them ;).

Dallas has a very good team. The addition of Brian Campbell totally changes their offensive attack from the defensive zone-out. But the Wings have Turco's number. He has never won a game in regulation at The Joe. I think The Joe is a difficult place to play for Turco because of his past as a Wolverine. When he played at The Joe during his college years, he had 18,000 fans on his side, cheering him on. Now, he goes to The Joe and he has a stadium cheering against him. I think that has been a very difficult transition for him to make; in fact, it's a transition he has yet to make.

The last matchup between the Stars and Wings this year in Detroit was very telling. Turco had a good first two periods, and his team had basically controlled the game. Then, in the third period he absolutely folded. The announcers were baffled, how he could just fold like that. He was fumbling center ice dump-ins, etc, and eventually gave Detroit a win in a game that was all Dallas for forty minutes.

Again, Detroit doesn't need a goalie that can steal a game, they need a goalie that can keep them in games. More often than not Oz and Dom can do that.

haha
04-13-2008, 11:03 AM
from what i seen from the officials yesterday detroit doesnt need a goalie at all. those calls were brutal.

GenX
04-13-2008, 01:04 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: haha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">from what i seen from the officials yesterday detroit doesnt need a goalie at all. those calls were brutal. </div></div>

Yeah, the Wings are always get favored by the refs. That's why San Jose was able to score a goal off the top netting behind the net in a late-season game in Detroit this season.

You want brutal? Watch the third period of the Montreal game last night.

oneof3
04-13-2008, 10:36 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1of3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Again, Detroit doesn't need a goalie that can steal a game, they need a goalie that can keep them in games. More often than not Oz and Dom can do that. </div></div>

Agreed. But you could imagine how they would be easy favorites to win the cup with someone like Nabakov or Brodeur.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=haha]from what i seen from the officials yesterday detroit doesnt need a goalie at all. those calls were brutal. </div></div>

Yeah, the Wings are always get favored by the refs. That's why San Jose was able to score a goal off the top netting behind the net in a late-season game in Detroit this season.

You want brutal? Watch the third period of the Montreal game last night. </div></div>

Meh, they were real penalties, but the refs could have called a dive on two of them and been 4 on 4 instead of pp's, but nevertheless, the Bruins still need to kill them if they have any chance at all. As for the ref's in general, why figure anything is going to change just because it's the playoffs?

haha
04-14-2008, 11:23 PM
LET'S GO NASHVILLE!
if the refs had got it right last game, nashville would be up 2-1.

oneof3
04-15-2008, 02:54 AM
What ifs are great aren't they?

riggs
04-15-2008, 05:23 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: haha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LET'S GO NASHVILLE!
if the refs had got it right last game, nashville would be up 2-1. </div></div>

Take the calls as they come.We won't change it and niether will the players.Bad calls will always be made regardless of who's wearing the orange stripes.

I would like however to see consistancy to maintain the tempo of the game.Let the players know what is or isn't accepted and stick to it.

I've noticed the refs make the calls and are not so influenced by the crowd......it's about time.

GenX
04-15-2008, 05:43 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: haha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LET'S GO NASHVILLE!
if the refs had got it right last game, nashville would be up 2-1. </div></div>

How did Darcy Tucker shoot at the golf course today?

oneof3
04-15-2008, 05:59 PM
He kept missing easy puts from 4 ft out.

GenX
04-15-2008, 06:26 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1of3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He kept missing easy puts from 4 ft out. </div></div>

Sounds like the way he played from October to early April.

haha
04-15-2008, 06:34 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: riggs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I would like however to see consistancy to maintain the tempo of the game.Let the players know what is or isn't accepted and stick to it.
</div></div>

could not agree with u more!

oneof3
04-15-2008, 10:00 PM
I would think the players should realize things that are against the rules are not acceptable and go from there. Refs don't see everything and aren't afforded the ability to check a replay for everything like we are. They miss far more than they call in error.

riggs
04-15-2008, 10:22 PM
True the rules are understood but there are times when refs allow the rules to be stretched then suddenly they pull the rope a little tighter and call what they allowed earlier in the game.
I understand they need to do this to get the game back under control at times but this isn't always the case.

I still give them a lot of credit as this is a quick moving game with plenty of action in and out of the play.

oneof3
04-17-2008, 01:02 AM
Well RW, I hope you see what I meant when I said the goaltending was weak, Detroit is too good of a team to lose because of it. Ellis has outplayed Hasek in every game

I'll clarify what I mean. Detroit has one of the best d corp in the league and some very elite defensive forwards. Having the team lose because of the goaltending, and yes, I realize it's tied, is a colossal failure on the part of Holland.

haha
04-17-2008, 08:55 AM
lets go nashville!!!!!!
hasek sucks!

oneof3
04-18-2008, 02:00 AM
Anaheim is killing me. Price had a bad game but he's the real deal so no worries here. Wash VS Philly was the best game so far this playoff year.

I heard Osgood is getting the start tomorrow night. Hopefully he plays better than Hasek has.

oneof3
04-19-2008, 12:29 AM
Detroit took it to Nashville tonight and considering the way Ellis played, they may have been lucky to get out with the win.

jaydee
04-19-2008, 02:20 AM
MONTREAL ALL THE WAY FUDGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GenX
04-19-2008, 12:54 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1of3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well RW, I hope you see what I meant when I said the goaltending was weak, Detroit is too good of a team to lose because of it. Ellis has outplayed Hasek in every game

I'll clarify what I mean. Detroit has one of the best d corp in the league and some very elite defensive forwards. Having the team lose because of the goaltending, and yes, I realize it's tied, is a colossal failure on the part of Holland. </div></div>

Hasek isn't a playoff goaltender, that isn't news.

I think Montreal has more to worry about, goaltending-side, than the Wings. Price's meltdown in game 5 is one of the biggest choking scenarios I've ever seen in playoff hockey.

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Go Bruins!! </span>

jaydee
04-19-2008, 08:26 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1of3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well RW, I hope you see what I meant when I said the goaltending was weak, Detroit is too good of a team to lose because of it. Ellis has outplayed Hasek in every game

I'll clarify what I mean. Detroit has one of the best d corp in the league and some very elite defensive forwards. Having the team lose because of the goaltending, and yes, I realize it's tied, is a colossal failure on the part of Holland. </div></div>

Hasek isn't a playoff goaltender, that isn't news.

I think Montreal has more to worry about, goaltending-side, than the Wings. Price's meltdown in game 5 is one of the biggest choking scenarios I've ever seen in playoff hockey.

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Go Bruins!! </span> </div></div>

BRUINS ARE GONNA LOSE

GenX
04-19-2008, 08:31 PM
As long as Carey Price is in net, the Bruins will have a chance.

oneof3
04-20-2008, 12:44 AM
Hardly fair seeing as he's in his first playoff series.

haha
04-20-2008, 08:29 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: haha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">colorado in 6
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one out of eight, who's your daddy???

GenX
04-20-2008, 09:22 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1of3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hardly fair seeing as he's in his first playoff series. </div></div>

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Oh, okay!

Fact is, as these playoffs go on, it is becoming increasingly clear Price can't handle the pressure.

Another Choke King in the making.

Look out, Turco, Price is after your crown!

haha
04-20-2008, 09:24 AM
and hasek's been a real ace for the wings.

GenX
04-20-2008, 09:28 AM
Changing the subject, eh?

I never said Hasek was an ace. I always wanted Babcock to go with Osgood.

I said last night before the Montreal game that the Bruins have a real chance as long as Price is in net. See the game last night? He has let in ten goals in two games.

Once again, my amazing hockey prescience and knowledge come to the forefront!

By the way...how'd the Leafs do last night?

haha
04-20-2008, 09:32 AM
changing the subject urself eh?

as i've told u before that would be a great come back.....if i were a leafs fan.

GenX
04-20-2008, 09:36 AM
I'm not changing the subject. I made my initial point, and then added a "by the way..."

You, on the other hand, went straight for a Hasek comment when discussing Price. That's 'changing the subject 101'.

Your comment that we should go light on Price is strange. Are the playoffs a time for experiment? A time to get some ice time?

If Price isn't ready to take the Habs on a serious playoff run, then Carbonneau is a fool of unimaginable proportions for starting him, and not seeing this potential problem months ago.

haha
04-20-2008, 09:37 AM
i will agree with u on the price thing, he's looked very out of place.

GenX
04-20-2008, 09:40 AM
Teams play much more tentatively, and too cautious, when they feel their goaltender isn't playing up to par. They'll say all the 'right' things to the media, but deep down a seed of doubt has grown in the Habs.

I've seen this happen to the Wings over the last few years with Hasek. The team loses that 'killer instinct', that ability to not let the other team up when they are down.

The first period at the Bell Centre tomorrow will be huge.

haha
04-20-2008, 09:43 AM
speaking of first periods, why dont the wings come at the preds in the first period with all guns firing?
i am in no way a wings fans but they have the superior fire power, they know that 3 of nashvilles top guns are out but yet they continue to go with the flow.
you would think babcock would have them shooting at anything for the first 10 mins.

GenX
04-20-2008, 09:51 AM
I'm not sure.

It may just be they don't have the proper amount of hunger and drive.

Let's face it, the Wings should have won this thing in five, tops, if we go by pure talent alone. But Detroit has alway 'played down' to the level of team they are playing. They actually play better against the league's top teams. That is why they lost four straight to the Blackhawks during the regular season.

The Wings may be a bit too heavy on the Euro/Russian side of things. I hate to give Don Cherry credit, but he may be on to something when he says the Europeans and Russians don't have that inner drive for the Cup that Canadians and Americans have.

I truly believe people like Zetterberg, Fillpula, Franzen, and Datsyuk think they are giving 100%. But I do wonder if they know it takes 110% to win Lord Stanley's Cup.

During their Cup run from 1997-2002, the Wings were a team full of grit, with some talent sprinkled in. Today, they are a team full of talent, with some grit sprinkled in.

They need to become less pretty, and more gritty.

GenX
04-20-2008, 06:59 PM
http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/LegendsOfHockey/trophies/winners/PRT1995.jpg

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oneof3
04-20-2008, 08:59 PM
I'll agree with you but not Cheery. He's a fool. There is enough grit on Detroit, they just don't get enough minutes, As for Price, petty thinking he's a choke king in his first playoff series. His whole team can take credit for yesterday, and he can take credit for 5 soft goals in 2 games. Congrats to Detroit today. When they play as a team with the whole team, they can beat anyone.

Side note, how good is Ellis when the opposing team congratulates him for the way he played?

GenX
04-21-2008, 06:10 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">he can take credit for 5 soft goals in 2 games. </div></div>

That, to me, is the epitome of choking.

riggs
04-21-2008, 06:47 PM
Any thoughts on the Final game between Boston and Montreal?

I'm not sure if Montreal will regain their confidence but I believe they will pull it off whether Price is on his game or not.On the other hand I wouldn't be upset if the Bruins won as they've shown they just won't go away and they have earned the right to move onto the next round.

It should be a good game if it's anything like the third of game six.We just don't see that kind of hockey to much anymore.

oneof3
04-21-2008, 07:39 PM
So then, by your logic, Brodeur is also a choke artist?

GenX
04-22-2008, 05:14 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1of3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So then, by your logic, Brodeur is also a choke artist? </div></div>

Did Brodeur allow ten goals in two games?

Seems to me the NYR/NJD series was the lowest-scoring one of the entire first round.

haha
04-23-2008, 08:27 AM
second round

philly over montreal in 6
pitt over NYR in 7

detroit over colorado in 5
dallas over SJ in 6

oneof3
04-23-2008, 04:14 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1of3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So then, by your logic, Brodeur is also a choke artist? </div></div>

Did Brodeur allow ten goals in two games?

Seems to me the NYR/NJD series was the lowest-scoring one of the entire first round. </div></div>

LOL. So a goalie that allows 10 goals in two games and still wins the series with a shutout in the 7th game is a choke artist but a guy who loses a series isn't? Interesting logic. Sounds more like trying to get someone's goat, but hey,it is the internet.

oneof3
04-23-2008, 04:15 PM
Mont beats Philly in 5
Colorado beats Det in 6
Rangers beat Pitts in 6
San Jose beats Dallas in 6

Super Gram
04-23-2008, 11:28 PM
SECOND ROUND

Montreal over Philly..7

NYR over Pittsburg....6

Detroit over Colorado...6

SJ over Dallas.......7

jaydee
04-26-2008, 04:38 PM
DETROIT AND MONTREAL IN THE FINAL!!!!

GenX
04-26-2008, 08:56 PM
<span style='font-size: 16pt'>Complete Domination of the Avs!!!</span>

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oneof3
05-01-2008, 12:08 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1of3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mont beats Philly in 5
Colorado beats Det in 6
Rangers beat Pitts in 6
San Jose beats Dallas in 6 </div></div>

My credibility is shot.

BTW- I'm watching Leafs vs Wings from '93. 7th game classic.

GenX
05-03-2008, 05:35 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1of3</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1of3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mont beats Philly in 5
Colorado beats Det in 6
Rangers beat Pitts in 6
San Jose beats Dallas in 6 </div></div>

My credibility is shot.

BTW- I'm watching Leafs vs Wings from '93. 7th game classic. </div></div>

That's the one where Wendel Clark scores the game-winner at the Joe, in OT I believe.

haha
05-05-2008, 08:39 AM
at least i called philly right.

philly over pitt in 6 games
detroit over dallast in 7

puppy
05-05-2008, 07:06 PM
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a14/sharray/dal.jpg

dallas over detroit in 6

oneof3
05-07-2008, 04:10 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1of3</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1of3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mont beats Philly in 5
Colorado beats Det in 6
Rangers beat Pitts in 6
San Jose beats Dallas in 6 </div></div>

My credibility is shot.

BTW- I'm watching Leafs vs Wings from '93. 7th game classic. </div></div>

That's the one where Wendel Clark scores the game-winner at the Joe, in OT I believe. </div></div>

Borchevsky actually. People can say what they want about TO vs Bos, or even Ott, but TO vs Det is still the best rivalry other than Mon. That series is still the highlite of my life hockeywise, which sadly says alot about the Leafs futility all these years. The excitement from the crowds in TO and Det was phenomenal. Every goal was like the cup winner.

oneof3
05-07-2008, 04:14 PM
Det over Dallas in 6. My apologies to Turco though, but Det isn't one line and Franzen is quickly becoming one of my favorite players. Glad I picked him in my pool at the beginning.

Pitts over Philly in 5. The 1st game is going to set the tone and Pitts will show Philly they aren't as soft as most think. Hossa aside.

Super Gram
05-08-2008, 07:20 PM
Wings over Dallas in 6

Pens over Philly in 7

If Philly don't kill Crosby, Hossa and Geno

GenX
05-08-2008, 07:29 PM
Wings over Dallas in 6

Pens over Flyers in 6

jaydee
05-14-2008, 01:06 PM
PENGUINS N RED WINGS IN FINAL!!!!!

GenX
05-18-2008, 03:08 PM
Pens should beat out Philly today.

riggs
05-22-2008, 10:49 PM
I believe the Wings have the puck control and style of play that will make the Penguins a frustrated group.They are still young and inexperienced for this level of play.I'm not sure if JMF or the blue line will be able to handle the Wings offensive skills resulting in the blueliners taking a lot of penalties.

I believe Detroit will hoist Lord Stanley's cup in 6 games.