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GenX
04-05-2008, 04:33 PM
"Global temperatures for 2008 will be slightly cooler than last year as a result of the cold La Nina current in the Pacific, UN meteorologists have said."

LINK (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7329799.stm)

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Huggy85
04-05-2008, 11:26 PM
Yet, on the other side of the world, previous high temperature records are being broken.......

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2008/03/26/012.html

GenX
04-06-2008, 09:09 PM
Exactly, Huggy...there is no GLOBAL warming /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

Nice to see you finally on board.

Huggy85
04-06-2008, 09:52 PM
http://www.hindu.com/2008/04/06/stories/2008040655941700.htm

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Global warming continues, says U.N.

New York: The long-term trend of global warming is continuing, despite the current La Nina weather phenomenon that is bringing relatively cooler temperatures to parts of the Equatorial Pacific region, says the United Nations World Meteorological Organization.

Worldwide temperatures this year are expected to be above the long-term average, though La Nina is also likely to persist through to the middle of 2008, WMO reported.

WMO Secretary-General Michel Jarraud said while there would always be both cooler and warmer individual years, the overall trend in temperatures is still upwards.

“For detecting climate change you should not look at any particular year, but instead examine the trends over a sufficiently long period of time,” he said.

Parts of the central and eastern Pacific Ocean have experienced significantly cooler sea-surface temperatures in recent months, WMO reported, and cooling has also been recorded over China and West Asia.

But Australia, Russia, the western U.S., north-eastern Brazil and the southern part of South America have generally experienced higher-than-average temperatures since last December, it added.





On board with you? In your dreams, you idiot.

GenX
04-06-2008, 09:56 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Parts of the central and eastern Pacific Ocean have experienced significantly cooler sea-surface temperatures in recent months, WMO reported, and cooling has also been recorded over China and West Asia.</div></div>

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RWGR wins!!!

Welcome aboard, Dapper diapered one!! /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/high5.gif

Huggy85
04-06-2008, 10:04 PM
New York: The long-term trend of global warming is continuing, despite the current La Nina weather phenomenon that is bringing relatively cooler temperatures to parts of the Equatorial Pacific region, says the United Nations World Meteorological Organization.

Worldwide temperatures this year are expected to be above the long-term average, though La Nina is also likely to persist through to the middle of 2008, WMO reported.

You can't pick one sentence out of the article and claim to "win".. Read the whole thing, dumba$$

GenX
04-06-2008, 10:09 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Parts of the central and eastern Pacific Ocean have experienced significantly cooler sea-surface temperatures in recent months, WMO reported, and cooling has also been recorded over China and West Asia. </div></div>

Unless China, West Asia, and the central and eastern Pacific (about 45% of the globe) aren't part of earth, then I guess you can stick to your Global Warming scenario /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rofl.gif /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/lol.gif




RWGR wins...in a BIG way!!

Huggy85
04-06-2008, 10:11 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Parts of the central and eastern Pacific Ocean have experienced significantly cooler sea-surface temperatures in recent months, WMO reported, and cooling has also been recorded over China and West Asia. </div></div>

Unless China, West Asia, and the central and eastern Pacific (about 45% of the globe) aren't part of earth, then I guess you can stick to your Global Warming scenario /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rofl.gif :lol








RWGR wins...in a BIG way!! </div></div>

Yup, you win.....in your own mind only. Nothing new there.

GenX
04-06-2008, 10:13 PM
No comment...

No wonder

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Barry Morris
04-07-2008, 08:55 AM
Nothing new.

GenX
04-07-2008, 02:07 PM
'xactly!!

GenX
04-07-2008, 02:23 PM
"The world will experience global cooling this year, according a leading climate scientist.

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The head of the World Meteorological Organisation said La Nina - the weather phenomenon which is cooling the Pacific - is likely to trigger a small drop in average global temperatures compared with last year.

The prediction - which follows a bitterly cold winter in China and the Arctic - is prompting some sceptics to question the theory of climate change."

LINK (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=557209&in_page_id=1770)




"Residents of the Iron Range and other parts of northern Minnesota are digging out from under at least 2 feet of fresh snow.

The grand prize for the most snowfall goes to Virginia, Minn., where 32 inches piled up between Friday night and this morning. More than a foot fell in the northern Minnesota community of about 9,000 people since Sunday evening, the National Weather Service said.

Not far behind, 29 inches fell in northern portions of Itasca County, 27 inches in Cass Lake, 26 in Babbit, and 25 in Chisholm.

A spring snowstorm Sunday and continuing today caused slippery roads and travelers advisories and prompted the closing of Interstate Hwy. 94 westbound out of Alexandria."

LINK (http://www.startribune.com/local/17342739.html)


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Barry Morris
04-07-2008, 03:26 PM
Ya just don't get that warmer weather causes more snowfall, do ya???

As far as warming (or cooling) is concerned, we'll wait for the analysis of the AVERAGE temperature around the world for the year.

Barry Morris
04-07-2008, 03:32 PM
I guess you didn't see that movie, because in Chicken Little's case the sky WAS falling!!! /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

GenX
04-07-2008, 03:44 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ya just don't get that warmer weather causes more snowfall, do ya???

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The defense rests /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/lol.gif /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rofl.gif

GenX
04-07-2008, 03:46 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ya just don't get that warmer weather causes more snowfall, do ya???

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"One of the biggest concerns of media analysts and press watchers is the brainwashing effect bad reporting has on the public.

No finer example of this propagandist power exists than with the liberal bogeyman known as global warming, for the constant climate alarmism being spewed 24 hours a day, seven days a week has tremendously and demonstrably impacted the views of the citizenry.

Of course, that's the goal.

Consider the following e-mail message I received this morning from someone that appears to work for the government of Ontario, Canada (name and e-mail address withheld, emphasis added):

What are you, retarded?

Global warming = MORE snowfall. Not less.
Meaning snowfall records will be broken.

Delicious, isn't it?

What set this man off to send such an e-mail message to a perfect stranger? This article from last Thursday addressing the record snowfall around the country.

Sadly, what this angry reader clearly missed was that the piece was a response to all those hysterical press proclamations last year that global warming would significantly reduce snowfall around the world resulting in huge financial losses to ski resorts and winter vacation homeowners.

Alas, poor reading comprehension on the part of the citizenry -- even those in neighboring countries -- might be our least concern in this situation. What should scare us all much more is the idea that the propaganda attack regarding this issue is so effective that folks will blame every weather-related event -- even record snowfall! -- on global warming.

The fear-mongering is working, ladies and gentlemen.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

—Noel Sheppard is an economist, business owner, and Associate Editor of NewsBusters

GenX
04-07-2008, 04:02 PM
Please, Mr. Morris, explain the following, from 2006:

"After a record warm November delayed snowfall in the Alps, a new OECD report has warned that climate change poses "serious risks" to snow reliability in ski areas and could dramatically impact their economies.

In the first systematic cross-country study of ski areas in the Alpine region, the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, or OECD, found that recent warming in the region, which is particularly sensitive to climate change, has been roughly three times the global average.



Of the countries studied, Germany is most at risk, the report by the Paris-based group said. An increase in temperature by one degree could lead to a 60 percent decrease in the number of naturally snow-reliable ski areas in Germany."

LINK (http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1432,2271406,00.html)

"Global warming could force the snow sports industry out of business by dramatically reducing the amount of snow and shortening the ski season to a mere two months, according to a new study.

Various researchers, scientists, resort officials and city leaders spoke Tuesday night about global warming and the jarring results of the $60,000 study to a packed house at Park City's Eccles Center.

The study painted a bleak picture for Utah, where the tourism industry relies on the winter ski and snowboarding season. By 2100, the ski season could extend only from Christmas to Presidents Day, under the best-case scenario. Even a small 4- to 5-degree warming could be disastrous for the resorts — and winter."

LINK (http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650221809,00.html)


I thought Global Warming meant more snow???

Barry Morris
04-07-2008, 04:07 PM
Depends. Think about it.
Where winter in normally 20 or 30 below in January and February, it will snow MORE if the temperatures are HIGHER.

As to what happens in any particular area, who knows?

GenX
04-07-2008, 04:09 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Depends. Think about it.
Where winter in normally 20 or 30 below in January and February, it will snow MORE if the temperatures are HIGHER.

As to what happens in any particular area, who knows? </div></div>



Moving the goalposts, ehh??? /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

Barry Morris
04-07-2008, 04:10 PM
Whatever.

GenX
04-07-2008, 04:11 PM
That's exactly what you did.

You went from saying 'warmer weather means more snow' to saying 'warmer weather in areas where it is normally -20 to -30...'

Moving the goalposts 101

GenX
04-07-2008, 04:13 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where winter in normally 20 or 30 below in January and February, it will snow MORE if the temperatures are HIGHER. </div></div>

Is it normally 20 or 30 below in the areas the news story cited?

Also, Asia?

The Berean
04-07-2008, 06:45 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's exactly what you did.

You went from saying 'warmer weather means more snow' to saying 'warmer weather in areas where it is normally -20 to -30...'

Moving the goalposts 101 </div></div>

your funny. Illiterate but funny.

GenX
04-08-2008, 06:01 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">your funny. Illiterate but funny. </div></div>