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Hans
04-25-2008, 12:51 PM
The final days for Microsoft XP are fast approaching, according to the Microsoft.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=11589

I can't stand Ballmer.

Flawless Disaster
04-25-2008, 01:03 PM
Neither can I Hans. Microsoft is totally oblivious to the fact that Vista is just too heavy for low end PC's.

On another note, I love this quote from the same article:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Steve Ballmer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ballmer also reaffirmed that if Yahoo would not accept its buyout offer, Microsoft would seek to oust the company's board of directors. He stated, "We've sent them a letter that says, 'it's a good price, please let us know. If you don't let us know, maybe your shareholders will think it's a good price."</div></div>

Talk about bullying a company into submission. They realised that their own search engine sucks compared to Google, they cant get Google, so they go for the next best thing and dont stop until they have it. Its kinda like a 4 yr old kid whining at the grocery store cashout for that jumbo size chocolate bar.

Koss
04-25-2008, 01:17 PM
ORLY: http://www.olpcnews.com/software/windows/xp_on_the_xo_in_60_days.html

http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/

http://gizmodo.com/381469/ballmer-vista-is-a-work-in-progress

XP stable fast plus Eye Candy:

http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e128/Koss424/?action=view&current=8755.jpg

Flawless Disaster
04-25-2008, 01:30 PM
What programs are you using there Koss?

Hans
04-25-2008, 01:33 PM
I wonder how many people would feel the difference between a skinned xp that looks identical to Vista, and Vista. They should really ask Microsoft if they would be willing to parcitipate in such a project.

Koss
04-25-2008, 01:43 PM
Yahoo Widgets, Topdesk & Window Blinds.

Andre
04-25-2008, 02:02 PM
I was just reading about this on the Fark Teck site yesterday and I thought this response summed the whole thing up pretty well.

Giblet: mastethom: FTA: "Ballmer said most retailers sold computers with Vista [...] and most consumers were choosing to buy Vista."

Emphasis mine because "buy" != "use." I have an MSDN developer subscription that lets me download full versions of all kinds of shiat from MS. I can get Windows 3.1 if I want it. When I reformatted my new computer last month because it came with all the usual stupid bullshiat, I could have installed Vista for free. I chose XP Pro. A friend of mine did much the same thing. He bought a new machine that included Vista, wiped it, and used his old XP discs to rebuilt it. My company is going to do that with three new rigs we're buying to run a sim.

So that's five "buys" for Vista that MS will count but, at the same time, five "fark yous" for Vista that they won't.

This.

Ask the folks with MSDN subscriptions -- folks who can install whatever they want for free -- what they actually USE, and it'll be XP Pro every time.

Hans
04-25-2008, 02:06 PM
XP had a lot of hammers when it was put on the market, Vista's hammers have all failed. That's what's going to be the real problem for the next version of Windows : finding good hammers.

Karl
04-25-2008, 02:18 PM
Vista rocks on mid-range to high end pcs and for low end as well, but don't buy the ultra for a low end pc get the basic version.

XP is still and awesome OS and i like it and Vista 32 and i like Vista 64 bit as well.

Koss
04-25-2008, 02:44 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Supreme Commander Of The World</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Vista rocks on mid-range to high end pcs and for low end as well,

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But how does XP run on same machines?

http://vista.blorge.com/2008/04/07/surprise-surprise-windows-xp-sp3-runs-faster-than-vista-sp1/

Karl
04-25-2008, 03:53 PM
No doubt on a low end PC i would take XP over Vista and SP3 for XP will be faster the SP1 for Vista, but SP1 was designed for the higher end PC's more then the lower end.

I see in microsofts near future Visat for High End PC's and Xp for low end, just like win98 was when XP was out.

In the very near future 2010 a newer OS from microsoft will be out and Vista will dominate the lower class and the newer OS will dominate the higher class.

Hans
04-25-2008, 05:16 PM
The new OS will replace Vista, not live alongside it. I do hope they have the hammers right this time, or it will be all for nothing (again).

Karl
04-25-2008, 05:26 PM
Yes i mean't replace it, but until vista was pulled it will be beside it.

Chako
04-25-2008, 07:27 PM
Window Vista = Window ME

Oh and I bought both..go figure.

Karl
04-25-2008, 07:29 PM
WinME was awesome, you just had to know how to run it.

GirlNextDoor
04-25-2008, 07:29 PM
i consider my laptop a lowend POS and vista has ran 10x better than xp or even linux(which i prefer hands down). I was pretty anti vista as most M$ crap that comes out is just that. After running the same install of windows for 6 months on a crap laptop is great. Ive yet to get any malicious software despite complete lack of AV and other malware prevention,wife,and kids who use this as well. I would never ever go back to XP ever again.

Chako
04-25-2008, 08:59 PM
Huh yeah lol.
I won't get into it, but ME was a mistake MS should have aborted.

jaydee
04-26-2008, 01:18 AM
ballmer says computers cause cancer

jaydee
04-26-2008, 01:19 AM
and no waY XP is still the best

Madmax
04-26-2008, 02:29 AM
XP is a great OS and Vista is just a bloated XP. Vista is a great OS as well, but it has its issues for the low-end pc's.

Flawless Disaster
04-26-2008, 02:40 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Koss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yahoo Widgets, Topdesk & Window Blinds.</div></div>

What program did you use for the task bar?

Hans
04-28-2008, 08:35 PM
Hey look here Ballmer !

http://www.dailytech.com/PC+Makers+Find+Ways+To+Avoid+June+30+XP+Deadline/article11614.htm

Andre
06-05-2008, 02:08 PM
Microsoft changes its mind again and tells PC makers OK, we'll still let you install XP on low end desktops until June 2010 even though people don't really want it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7435278.stm

Koss
06-06-2008, 09:02 AM
from the article: "The extension Microsoft granted to XP for these low cost laptops, or netbooks, covered machines that have no more than 1GB of RAM; a hard drive up to 80GB in size; a processor running no faster than 1GHz; a screen no larger than 10.2in (25cm) and no touch screen."

It's so funny that Microsoft thinks it's a good idea to market an OS in such a way you can only buy it if your computer meets their criteria and you can prove it isn't powerful enough to run their more expensive, bloated product. But that's what happens when a company stop being an innovator and only reacts to what's happening around it. We may be witnessing M$'s IBM moment here.

Koss
06-06-2008, 11:07 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...ST2008060403830 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/04/AR2008060403770_2.html?sid=ST2008060403830)

Here's another good interview with Blamer. He's confused as to why Goggle is playing with Mobile Phones and Why Apple is selling movies and television shows with great success though Itunes. He wouldn't buy TV through the internet them so why would anyone else want to? This guy is a mess. Gates picked the a guy that's going to bring his empire down.