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Madmax
04-26-2008, 03:25 PM
Yep its that time again.

ATI RULES and NVIDIA SUCKS

Chako
04-26-2008, 07:36 PM
It is funny that you say this. I just went back to Future shop today after seeing an 8800GTS 680Meg video card for 230 bucks. I was thinking of running it with my fairly old original speced 8800GTS 680meg card. However, I came out with a Radeon HD 3870 X2 instead for twice the price lol. I must be nuts.

So now I am a proud owner of a Radeon once again. The odd thing was that I havenít really read any reviews. I just figured it was time to change vendors. I like to do that on occasion. Going to install it tomorrow if all goes well. Seeing that I have a 680i motherboard, there wonít be any quad Radeon running for a while now. You can bet the next motherboard will probably be an Intel chipset, with crossfire capabilities.

Chako
04-26-2008, 09:39 PM
I just unboxed it. My oh my. I know size isn't everything, but this card is big, heavy, and long. Sort of reminds me of my old 3DFX Voodoo 5 5500. Only that card was not even half as heavy as this behemoth.

Cruel_Intentions
04-26-2008, 11:01 PM
what do you have for a motherboard now Chako?

Chako
04-27-2008, 12:40 AM
I have an Asus Striker Extreme. Not overly fond of the 680i chipset once I found out it didn't support the new Quad cores from Intel. I had bought the board before any fundamental issues were known. My next motherboard is going back to the Intel chipset quadrant.

mboy67
04-27-2008, 01:03 AM
The Asus Rampage is nice. and my next card is more then likely to be a 4870 or 4870x2. the 4870 is to be out in the next few weeks and the 4870x2 in a few months. I own both and regardless of what the bench marks show the ATI cards still give a better imagery.

Madmax
04-27-2008, 07:10 AM
These three mobo's are three top mobo's for builds.

Asus Formula X38
Asus Rampage X48
Asus Striker Extreme 680I

There is also the DFI mobo's X38 and X48 chipset ones.

I am undecided as to which i want as i am holding out for a little longer for a mobo, cpu, video card.

Chako
04-27-2008, 07:40 AM
Just remember that any Nvidia 680i motherboard will not support the 45nm Yorkfield quads from Intel. It is believed that Intel made them incompatible after Nvidia would not allow Intel to equip their chipsets with SLI compatibility. Dual core 45nm processors do work however.

So your last board, which I have, is not very future proof.

Madmax
04-27-2008, 07:49 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chako</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just remember that any Nvidia 680i motherboard will not support the 45nm Yorkfield quads from Intel. It is believed that Intel made them incompatible after Nvidia would not allow Intel to equip their chipsets with SLI compatibility. Dual core 45nm processors do work however.

So your last board, which I have, is not very future proof.</div></div>

Yes that is true, but a great high board for dual core is what i should have put.

I am waiting for Penryn to arrive and maybe i will then buy a quad at that time or stick with a high-end dual core from intel.

Quad is still not needed even for the high-end gamers ... so a high-end dual core will still out perform a quad-core in the gaming market and or the business market depends on application of course, but as for games there is really not many if any at all that fully support quad core to their fullest.

Chako
04-27-2008, 10:44 AM
You do have a good point. Maybe I will keep this board and just get a faster core 2 duo CPU when its time. My old E6600 is starting to show its age a little.

Cruel_Intentions
04-27-2008, 12:10 PM
when you want to get rid of your E6600 let me know, I would be interested. Right now I'm running a E4300 @ 3.1Ghz. I'd be interested to know how far I can push the E6600.

Gigabyte also makes some good high-end boards. I've been running high overclocks for over the past year on a Gigabyte 965P-DQ6 and haven't had any problems. Unlike alot of other companies that put tons of features with low-end components (capacitors for example), gigabyte uses top of the line components and still has just as many features as other manufactures.

filthy
04-27-2008, 01:12 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MadMax</div><div class="ubbcode-body">These three mobo's are three top mobo's for builds.

Asus Formula X38
Asus Rampage X48
Asus Striker Extreme 680I </div></div>

Are you nuts? The X38/X48 are great, but any 680i mobo are not "tops" anymore. There are 750i, 780i and 790i mobo's that are the best Nforce chipsets.

The "fastest" motherboard as rated by many reputable sites that you can buy "right now" is the 790i. I myself am going to buy the EVGA 750i FTW motherboard, best bang for buck for Nforce platform.

And of course this ATI vs Nvidia thing had to come back up, and I don't see a huge difference between either. In one system I have dual 8800GTS 512MB's in SLi with a Core 2 Quad 6600 and the second PC has one Sapphire HD3870 512MB with a Core 2 Duo E6600. I tested one of each in the same setup with each card @ x16 PCIe 2.0.

Head to head, single card vs single card, single core vs single core...Nvidia wins.

I prefer ATI as my media center PC, tapping into my home theatre system. I prefer Nvidia for PC gaming.

Madmax
04-27-2008, 03:39 PM
Thats why i said they are TOP three, but the 680I is to old now, does not support quad-core but a heck of a mobo for dual-core.

filthy
04-27-2008, 08:57 PM
Weird that the almighty 680i doesn't support quad core when my measely 650i does.

Madmax
04-28-2008, 08:25 AM
Weird for sure, but true.

680i

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/23/nvidia-680i-chipset-fails


650i

I'm pretty sure the 650i only support the 45nm dual cores only (BIOS P04). As I understand the 780i will support 45nm quads.

Chako
04-29-2008, 09:00 PM
Well I just installed the card. Set everything to high on Turok and holy smokes. What a difference compared to my old Geforce 8800 GTS. Off to try a few more titles.

filthy
04-29-2008, 09:40 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chako</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well I just installed the card. Set everything to high on Turok and holy smokes. What a difference compared to my old Geforce 8800 GTS. Off to try a few more titles. </div></div>

Put your video card where your mouth is and post some benchmarks / game FPS for us...lol. I'd like to know how the 3870x2 fares.

Chako
04-29-2008, 10:18 PM
Not into benchmarking.