"Speaking Truth to Power"

[Chris R]

Watch the nay sayers come-out of their web!


First Person To Suggest Plame Leak Was Treason COMMITS SUICIDE!?
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Lawyer falls to death at hotel
Seaside: Police suspect Paul Sanford committed suicide
By JULIA REYNOLDS
Herald Staff Writer
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In what police describe as a "probable" suicide leap, a prominent Monterey Bay Area attorney fell at least nine floors to his death at the Embassy Suites Hotel Monterey Bay in Seaside the morning before Christmas.
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Shortly before 9:30 a.m. Sunday, officers found the body of Aptos attorney Paul Sanford in the west end of the hotel lobby, where he had landed on a large ventilation grate.
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Police Capt. Steve Cercone said horrified guests were eating breakfast in the atrium at the time, and a number of witnesses saw Sanford fall from somewhere between the 9th and 12th floors.
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"I'm at a loss for words," said Sanford's friend and business associate, Monterey attorney Shawn Mills. "Paul really had his fingers in a lot of different pies. He was from the East Coast, and I used to call him our 'West Coast Kennedy.'"
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Almost immediately, he caused a stir after he joined the White House Press Corps in 2005, making waves as the first reporter to ask then-White House press secretary Scott McClellan whether the leaking of CIA agent Valerie Plame's name might be considered an act of treason.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2987035

Hmm pushed or jumped is the question?

Assassinated or felt he would be and jumped instead?

[darryl smith]

more likely he realized he was idolized by people like cyber and could not live with the damage he was doing to the world!

[Chris R]

Why in ten worlds did i think this article would attract a comment from the likes of Barrack?

Morning:Sir"LEMMING"

[Chris R]

There could be a couple of reasons this person died:one being forced off the balcony is a REAL possibility!

Another Annomoly in the 9-11 Episode.

Bulding NO 7

NORAD STAND DOWN.

The list is end-less.

Dancing Israelis

WAR GAmes on 9-11 enacting the possibility Planes being used to blow up buldings!

Arabs and family members of Usama being flown out of the Country the dy after 9-11 and NOT being held for Interogation?

[GenX]

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Oh, please, stop...

[darryl smith]

Yes cyber, the government is corrupt, the police officers everywhere are corrupt, the tax people are corrupt, doctors and pathologists are all on the take, the media is in on it...basicly everyone but you and your conspiracy theory buddys are in on it! Sucks to be you guys!

[Soundbear]

Gosh, it's so nice to be totally trusting!!!!

[GRUMPY]

Actually I think Elvis pushed him.

[Chris R]

Dead Scientists DO Tell Tales
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http://www.stevequayle.com/dead.scientist.news.html

Sorry to break your heart there granny:Buy Elvis is DEAD!

[shadowjak]

Ms. Plame was an operative under deep cover -- the CIA had created an entire company just so that Ms. Plame could claim that she worked there. Yet once Joseph Wilson broke his silence and announced that the White House was lying, Karl Rove decided that Wilson needed to be punished and that his wife was "fair game." Two top government officials called at least six Washington journalists and disclosed the identity and occupation of Wilson’s wife. But only the ever-ready apologist for the Republican Party, Robert Novak, took the bait. On July 14, 2003, Novak wrote a piece outing Ms. Plame as an operative.

Neither Karl Rove -- or whomever among the Bush senior staff leaked it -- nor Novak gave a moment’s consideration to the lives that they may have jeopardized by outing Ms. Plame. Never mind that anyone in another country who had so much as met Ms. Plame might now be suspected of spying. No thought was given to the fact that others, who were in fact spies, might be outed through their connection to Ms. Plame, and no thought was given to the fact that actual lives could be lost as a result of this odious act. Never mind that outing an undercover CIA operative is a federal crime.

A very serious matter, yet you would never know that from the White House’s response. When the revelation first hit the press in July, the White House first refused to comment and later, had White House press secretary Scott McClellan claim -- without so much as a question asked of White House staff -- "that is not the way this White House operates," and that "no one was certainly given any authority to do any of that nature, and I’ve seen no evidence to suggest there’s any truth to it." It’s hard to find evidence you are doing your very best to ignore.

Finally, in October the CIA referred the matter to the Department of Justice for investigation, and Attorney General John Ashcroft’s Justice Department, despite the obvious conflict of interest, refused to appoint a special prosecutor.

President Bush’s response: "And if there is a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is. And if the person has violated the law, the person will be taken care of." Apparently, it never crossed the President’s mind to simply ask his staff who the leaker was (or leakers were).

The Justice Department launched its allegedly official probe on September 26th, but neglected to direct the White House to preserve critical evidence until the evening of September 29th. Then, when the White House Counsel asked if he could wait until the next day to inform the staff of the need to preserve documents, the Justice Department allowed it. Simply, if the leaker(s) had not been smart enough to get rid of the evidence between July 6th and September 29th, the White House Counsel’s office wanted to be sure that there was at least one last chance to do so before destroying evidence would constitute criminal obstruction of justice.

Since September 29th? Nothing, not a word. Nothing from the White House and nothing from the Department of Justice. The President never asked his staff to investigate the matter and never called for the leaker to come forward. The White House is, however, "cooperating."

The Department of Justice investigation appears to be at a standstill. Sure, the Department might claim that even the existence of a grand jury investigating the matter is a secret, but recall how such secret investigations were conducted during the Clinton years. Was there ever a grand jury matter that wasn’t leaked to the press? No, the press set up camp outside the Courthouse where the grand jury sat and took note of and publicly report on every person who went in. A grand jury investigation involving the White House is too good a story not to be subject of its own leak.

Why has the investigation stalled?Is it because someone has swept the matter under the carpet? Where are the Congressional hearings?
Where is the clamoring for an independent counsel, with the result that one would have been appointed?

I guess the truth is that neither this administration, nor this Congress, cares nearly as much about national security and the safety of undercover operatives as they do about politics.

[Wrangler35]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cyberfox</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Dead Scientists DO Tell Tales
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http://www.stevequayle.com/dead.scientist.news.html

Sorry to break your heart there granny:Buy Elvis is DEAD!

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Amazing site!

[Wrangler35]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gosh, it's so nice to be totally trusting!!!! </div></div> It seems that whom ever stands in the Bush admins way,end up in a sorry way..

[GenX]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Camper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cyberfox</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Dead Scientists DO Tell Tales
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http://www.stevequayle.com/dead.scientist.news.html

Sorry to break your heart there granny:Buy Elvis is DEAD!

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Amazing site! </div></div>

Cybie just complimented himself!