The Truth About Protestant Ministers

[GenX]

"A minister at a Dallas-area megachurch has been charged with online solicitation of a minor after allegedly being caught in a Bryan Internet sex sting.

Bryan police say undercover officers communicated -- as a 13-year-old girl -- with 52-year-old Joe Barron of Plano for about two weeks.

Bryan police say the online conversations with the minister from Prestonwood Baptist Church were sexually explicit.

The police statement says officers posing as the girl asked Barron on May 6th for an in-person rendezvous in Bryan, where the preacher was arrested.

A statement from Prestonwood Executive Pastor Mike Buster says they're disturbed and saddened by the reports and are praying for the Barron family.

Buster also says the church is fully cooperating with police.

Prestonwood Baptist Church has about 40 ministers on staff."

LINK (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D90MTSJ80.html)


You know, if they would only let ministers marry! That vow of celibacy is what causes all...

...err...uh...forget it...

[GenX]

A Former Minister Speaks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HEIHJQrOFM&feature=related)

VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqIVFqLYgi8)

Another Convert Speaks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKO1JAUNWQY&feature=related)

[GenX]

VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PRjhRRgzDo&feature=related)

[Wrangler35]

So what does that have to do with Catholic priests..any-one?

[Soundbear]

It's proof that Speedy didn't even LOOK at the link I put up. He automatically went into attack mode.

I won't bother responding to this thread. Anyone interested in conversions the other way can find lots.

[GenX]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's proof that Speedy didn't even LOOK at the link I put up. He automatically went into attack mode.

I won't bother responding to this thread. Anyone interested in conversions the other way can find lots. </div></div>

Translation: "You try to find many, because I can't. Please, help me"

[Soundbear]

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Your translation slipped again. Too bad.

[GenX]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">:) /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
Your translation slipped again. Too bad. </div></div>

Pretty soon I'll be like the founder of Protestantism, Luther, and just add and delete facts as I want! /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

[Soundbear]

Pretty soon??? What the hell are you on today?? You do that all the time!!!

[GenX]

If it was good enough for the founder of your religion, then it's good enough for me, Slugger!! /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

[Soundbear]

My religion was founded by Jesus.

Yours by men.

Bottom line.

TTFN.

[GenX]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My religion was founded by Jesus.

Yours by men.

Bottom line.

TTFN. </div></div>

Barry, the RCC can trace its roots to the very men that were Jesus' disciples.

Your religion believes some of that, but then added and deleted things, first in the 1500's, then again in the 1800's, specifically as it relates to eschatology.

You are the one that must pretend Church history does not go back past 1540. You are the one that must pick and choose what Church Fathers to read, in order to support some of your flimsy theology.

As former Protestant John Newman said, "To know Church history is to cease being Protestant".

I followed Protestantism once. I found it lacking. When I researched the issue over the years, I found it frightening in some aspects. I was ashamed I believed such unfounded, and even unbiblical at times, theology.

Your history is no deeper than 150 years in regards to much of your beliefs.

[GenX]

VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRpAcIt-vT4&feature=related)

[GenX]

VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o0U1GXvT98&feature=related)

[Soundbear]

"I followed Protestantism once."

Me too. But I left the Mormons.

[Soundbear]

Keep posting on topics we have discussed before if it makes you feel better.

[GenX]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"I followed Protestantism once."

Me too. But I left the Mormons. </div></div>

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Just slammed your own religion!!

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[Soundbear]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Just slammed your own religion!!

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Since you don't understand the relationship that is the heart of true Christianity, I'm not surprised you think so.

[GenX]

Barry, you have never been exposed to "true Christianity", because you've bought the theological musings of self-appointed 'experts' who created theology unknown to the Christian world for 7/8 of its entire existence.

[Soundbear]

Nope, not true.

My bible was written by the apostles and early church fathers. That's what I read, study and follow.

[GenX]

And who decided what books went int he Bible?

The Catholic Church.

What did the Church Fathers teach about the Real Presence? That Jesus is truly present in the Eucharist.

What did the Church Fathers teach about Mary? That Jesus was her only son, and she remained ever-virgin. Also, they called her "Mother of God".

What did the Church Fathers believe about Apostolic succession? That Peter was the first Pope, and others would succeed him, until the end of time.

What did the Church Fathers teach about the "One, holy, Catholic, and apostolic Church"? That in matters of fundamental importance, She will be kept free from error.

So, just in those few instances, we can clearly say you have accepted doctrine that is way off the mark. You have accepted doctrine that, in many cases, is no older than 150 years. The very earliest you can trace any of your doctrine that is not also shared by the RCC is the 1540's, well over one thousand years after the early Church Fathers were alive.

[Soundbear]

You can say it all day long. It's still not true.

[Super Gram]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nope, not true.

My bible was written by the apostles and early church fathers. That's what I read, study and follow. </div></div>


I do too

[GenX]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can say it all day long. It's still not true. </div></div>

You don't want it to be true. However, that's not the same as it not being true.

[Soundbear]

Poor Speedy.

[GenX]

"Blessed are the poor, for they shall inherit the earth"

[Soundbear]

You can have 'er bud!!!

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.” (Re 21:1 AV)

OOPS!!!

[bluekrissyspikes]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Blessed are the poor, for they shall inherit the earth" </div></div>

woohoo it's mine! all mine!