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403_forbidden
11-21-2008, 03:50 PM
I wonder how much of a monetary kick back the CRTC is getting from Bell for siding with them on this one......at least we can all sleep better at night knowing that we all benefit from BELL's "better managed networks"......what BS...


http://www.itworldcanada.com/Pages/Docbase/ViewArticle.aspx?id=idgml-6d1bb181-c135-453e&Portal=35a9256c-ab94-47e6-8f20-9717c5403f85&sub=395158

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Canadian-Regulators-Strangling-Independent-ISPs-99239

Andre
11-21-2008, 04:18 PM
The sad thing is, is that the only people who care or even have a clue what this means are only a very small minority of internet users.
95% of the people don't give a shiat and won't know what hit them until they are affected.
They see Bell and think, oh big deal. I'm with shaw, primus, telus....
doesn't mean anything to me.
The CRTC has opened a very big door here.

Bell's original complaint was that p2p users. A small number of users were using up all their bandwidth and effecting other customers so they had to manage the traffic.
Turns out the small number of p2p users weren't hogging bandwidth at all.
There was no congestion.
Any congestion that was happening was from people using more and more bandwidth from online video. Youtube, googlevideo...etc
They didn't throttle users during peak times. 9-5 only in the evening and at night until 2:00am when most people and their kids are at home.
Why did bell throttle users and open their own download store with full bandwidth available. Cut competion to anyone else who could download movies from someone other than bell?
They won the decision for now though and you better bet Shaw, Rogers and anyone else who can profit from it can and will/

Hans
11-21-2008, 04:29 PM
This will increase the use of port 1723. I would like to see Bell throttle that port.

Shawn
11-21-2008, 09:04 PM
The sad fact of this too is the CRTC is allowing the throttling of VOIP traffic... which just again allowed bell to basically keep their monopoly by saying its fine to disrupt other peoples phone service when its not through a land line... give it time I am sure there will be a protest against that.

Shawn
11-21-2008, 09:34 PM
http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/NEWS/RELEASES/2008/r081120.htm

1337
11-21-2008, 09:49 PM
hahah a SMALL AMOUNT of P2P users.

I am a STRONG and AVID video watcher on Youtube. Most videos are only 500k or so, and I watch hundreds a month.


Start Time: October 21st
End Time: November 20th
MB Down: 2286
MB UP: 264

I know people who download movies constantly, and break 40-60 gigs a month!

P2P users out weigh youtubers.

Shawn
11-21-2008, 10:15 PM
Damn, I am at 60 gigs already... lol... but most of that was internal traffic in my own network between computers... Probably at 10 gigs on my internet connection...