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Huggy85
01-15-2009, 08:58 AM
Meteorologists: Global Warming and Cold Weather Go Hand-In-Hand

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-01-14-voa5.cfm

"The World Meteorological Organization says cold weather does not mean that global warming has abated. WMO says people should not confuse weather with climate. "


I'll repeat that very slowly for Slow ..... "people should not confuse weather with climate"


"People in Europe are shivering, while people in North Asia and parts of Australia are sweltering. Scientists say these weather extremes are to be expected and neither phenomenon can be used as a case for or against global warming."

"Jarraud says last year was cooler than the year before, but 2008 still ranks as the 10th warmest year on record.

He says average global surface temperatures have climbed significantly since 1850, when historical weather statistics were first recorded. "Global warming will mean that heat waves like the one we got in Western Europe in 2003 will become more frequent. But, it does not mean that the 2003 heat wave was produced by global warming ... Last year, we know that part of the relative cooling was due to the La Nina phenomena, which was moderate to strong in the first part of 2008. Then in the second part of 2008, it became closer to what we call neutral condition. Now, it is a little bit unclear what will happen this year," he said.

Jarraud says every year, somewhere in the world weather records will be broken. He says every year, exceptional weather events will take place somewhere in the world. He says people have to look at the global picture to assess whether climate change is taking place."

Anapeg
01-15-2009, 10:29 AM
That report seems to start in the middle and work it's way toward either end. Basicly it states there is no proof one way or the other, other than a "significant rise in surface temp" since 1850. If this happened pre 1850 no one knows. How many degrees in a significant?

On the other hand assume you are right. What is our course of action? Lay it out, for a lay person. What HAS to happen to correct the problem of climate change? I have never heard what we can do to correct the problem or if we even can.

Slow
01-15-2009, 12:14 PM
Meteorologists: Global Warming and Cold Weather Go Hand-In-Hand


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hans' Jump the Shark moment!!!

You guys were all up in arms when we had a warm winter two years ago.

LOL

NewCasa
01-15-2009, 12:23 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hans' Jump the Shark moment!!!

You guys were all up in arms when we had a warm winter two years ago.

LOL

Like a bee to honey......

Slow
01-15-2009, 12:23 PM
I float like a butterfly, and sting like a bee.

NewCasa
01-15-2009, 12:27 PM
Bees don't stink....oh....STING!!

Hans
01-15-2009, 02:15 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hans' Jump the Shark moment!!!

You guys were all up in arms when we had a warm winter two years ago.

LOL

For the record, I would like to point out that Huggy is a different person then/than me...

Konig-OV
01-15-2009, 03:47 PM
I would still like to point out the earth has been warming since the ice age.

Hans
01-15-2009, 05:42 PM
I would like to point out there used to be dinosaurs roaming the earth.

Huggy85
01-15-2009, 05:49 PM
I would like to point out there used to be dinosaurs roaming the earth.

I would like to point out that there was once a big bang.

What's your point?

Hans
01-15-2009, 05:51 PM
The same point as the person stating the earth has been warming up since the ice age.

Slow
01-15-2009, 06:27 PM
I would like to point out there used to be dinosaurs roaming the earth.

LOL!!!

Slow
01-15-2009, 06:28 PM
For the record, I would like to point out that Huggy is a different person then/than me...

You're right, buddy...sorry.

1337
01-15-2009, 06:29 PM
http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Image:Five_Myr_Climate_Change_Rev_png

Last 5 millions years, we are on a regular path. Nothing to worry about.

Slow
01-15-2009, 07:22 PM
http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Image:Five_Myr_Climate_Change_Rev_png

Last 5 millions years, we are on a regular path. Nothing to worry about.

Common sense???

How dare you??????

Hans
01-15-2009, 07:25 PM
Define regular path?

Slow
01-15-2009, 07:33 PM
Don't be afraid to click on his link, Hans.

Hans
01-15-2009, 07:35 PM
I did. I fail to see any regularity in it.

Slow
01-15-2009, 07:35 PM
I did. I fail to see any regularity in it.

Oh, I see ;)

Hans
01-15-2009, 07:37 PM
You keep claiming that, I see.

Hans
01-15-2009, 07:44 PM
I will be happy once I see a graph with quarter wave decay.

Slow
01-15-2009, 07:44 PM
I will be happy once I see a graph with quarter wave decay.

LOL!!!

Hans
01-15-2009, 07:45 PM
I am serious.

Slow
01-15-2009, 07:47 PM
Thus my LOL :)

Anapeg
01-15-2009, 07:49 PM
Hans have you ever read anything by Immanuel Velikovsky? While he is contraversial he does harbour some interesting views. He has a lot in print and you will have to pick and choose as he wrote on religion and science and at times combined the two. His theories are thought provoking and a tad radical and rather interesting.

He holds that the dinosaurs died out in one fell swoop and the planets have gyrated about but check him out. You do have to have an open mind though or you won't make it through his first book. I would sugest 'Worlds in collision' or 'Earth in Upheaval' for starters.

Hans
01-15-2009, 07:56 PM
I will have to check it out, but I prefer Nostradamus mostly.

Slow
01-15-2009, 07:59 PM
I will have to check it out, but I prefer Nostradamus mostly.

Well, time to move on...

Anapeg
01-15-2009, 08:02 PM
To compare Velikovsky with a sooth sayer is an insult. Velikovsky was a scientist and Nostradamus was a visionary at best.

Slow
01-15-2009, 08:03 PM
To compare Velikovsky with a sooth sayer is an insult. Velikovsky was a scientist and Nostradamus was a visionary at best.

Some people don't know the difference.

Hans
01-15-2009, 08:05 PM
That does not change anything to the fact that I prefer Nostradamus.

Slow
01-15-2009, 08:06 PM
That does not change anything to the fact that I prefer Nostradamus.

Amen, Bro ;)

Anapeg
01-15-2009, 08:24 PM
That was a wate of five minutes typing that I will never get back.

Slow
01-15-2009, 08:26 PM
That was a wate of five minutes typing that I will never get back.

Can't say you weren't warned...

Anapeg
01-15-2009, 08:29 PM
Touche!

Hans
01-15-2009, 08:32 PM
I don't see the issue here.

The Berean
01-16-2009, 11:39 AM
Some can't see them.