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Slow
02-22-2009, 12:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwpTj_Z9v-c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp-j6GJJgJ8&feature=related

riggs
02-22-2009, 01:28 PM
I'm sure glad I don't have to go back 29 years to find a great hockey moment in Canada.

Slow
02-22-2009, 04:02 PM
I'm sure glad I don't have to go back 29 years to find a great hockey moment in Canada.

You could go back one hundred years in Canadian hockey and not find a moment as good as Miracle on Ice.

riggs
02-22-2009, 05:13 PM
You could go back one hundred years in Canadian hockey and not find a moment as good as Miracle on Ice.

If you consider the Americans winning a game a miracle,then I stand corrected.

GRUMPY
02-22-2009, 05:45 PM
Hell he must be a Leaf fan as well as they also count there greatest moment in the past in decades.

Coach
02-22-2009, 08:37 PM
O.K. Guys...here it goes....I deleted the posts with the picture due to a complaint saying it was making fun of mentally disabled people....sooooo...it's gone....play nice now.....

Jack Butler
02-22-2009, 09:15 PM
I remember 1980.....1st year as an Oiler, Gretzky, as a 19 year old, tallied 51g and 84a for 137pts.
That was the top total and the same amount as Marcel Dionne who was awarded the Art Ross as a result of having 53g to Gretzky at 51g.
Gretzky played one less game that year, so....
It was a miracle that Dionne won that year......and the rest they say is history.
I remember 1980.....it was the birth of what will never be duplicated in sports.
In 1983-84 Gretzky could've stopped playing on Jan. 7 and still won the scoring title.
That's almost three months before the end of the season.
Gretzky took the single-season points record from 152 to 215, an increase of 41%.
Jordan would've had to average 71 points a game to do that.
IMO, that.....is the MIRACLE on ice.
You're talking about one game......60 minutes.....*yawns*!

GRUMPY
02-23-2009, 03:18 PM
Hey that is not nice!!! It may not be that much to the rest of us in the real world but it is all he has.

Jack Butler
02-23-2009, 03:46 PM
Gretzky's Miracle is clouded by the fact that he has so many other records.
You can read through a very long list, on which this would be included.
Gretzky's accomplishments are only part of the Canadian accomplishments in hockey.
The Canadian history in hockey, is the history of hockey.
USA on the other hand, has so few, so....
I just find it odd that a country that could care a less about hockey, uses it as their best moment in sports history.

Slow
02-28-2009, 01:21 PM
If you consider the Americans winning a game a miracle,then I stand corrected.

College kids beating the Russians, the best in the world.

Only in America.

Jack Butler
02-28-2009, 02:11 PM
College kids beating the Russians, the best in the world.

Only in America.

Nice try.
You would have to look to the winner of The Stanley Cup for the worlds best!
.....only in America!
Are you really that brainwashed?
You are talking about 60 minutes of hockey.
You were maybe the luckiest in the world in 1980, but neither team could be considered the best.
That head shot you took....still has you on the IR?
You got your mouth in gear before your brain again.

riggs
03-01-2009, 09:54 PM
Don't be too hard on him Jack.Americans have had little to be proud of in the last 3 decades.If this is where he must reach to find that sense of pride then we should allow him this moment.Hopefullythen he won't bring it up for another decade.

GRUMPY
03-01-2009, 11:31 PM
the only thing sadder than Slow are the Leaf fans , whats it now 41 years.

Slow
03-02-2009, 12:53 PM
Don't be too hard on him Jack.Americans have had little to be proud of in the last 3 decades.If this is where he must reach to find that sense of pride then we should allow him this moment.Hopefullythen he won't bring it up for another decade.

Olympic Gold Medals since 1960:

U.S. - 2

Canada - 1

Our game ;)

Jack Butler
03-02-2009, 01:31 PM
That comment means you should be on the IR for a while yet.
Still eating through a straw?
Here you go.....you missed a couple of years.
You should be embarrassed.

http://proicehockey.about.com/od/olympichockey/a/olympic_medals.htm

riggs
03-02-2009, 02:24 PM
The entire picture sure has a different feel.

Year Gold Silver Bronze
1920 Canada United States Czechoslovakia
1924 Canada United States Great Britain
1928 Canada Sweden Switzerland
1932 Canada United States Germany
1936 Great Britain Canada United States
1948 Canada Czechoslovakia Switzerland
1952 Canada United States Sweden
1956 Soviet Union United States Canada
1960 United States Canada Soviet Union
1964 Soviet Union Sweden Czechoslovakia
1968 Soviet Union Czechoslovakia Canada
1972 Soviet Union United States Czechoslovakia
1976 Soviet Union Czechoslovakia West Germany
1980 United States Soviet Union Sweden
1984 Soviet Union Czechoslovakia Sweden
1988 Soviet Union Finland Sweden
1992 CIS Canada Czechoslovakia
1994 Sweden Canada Finland
1998 Czech Republic Russia Finland
2002 Canada United States Russia
2006 Sweden Finland Czech Republic

Coach
03-02-2009, 10:17 PM
Slow...If you continue to try to start Canada vs U.S. fights/arguements here just for the sake of arguing I will shut it down....if you want to debate...fine...otherwise I am asking you to stop....

Jack Butler
03-02-2009, 11:25 PM
Canada dominated the early Olympic ice hockey tournaments, winning 4 out of the first 5 gold medals.
In 1924, the Toronto Granites, the Ontario "Senior A" team and Allan Cup holders who represented Canada, racked up 110 goals in only 5 games.
Harry Watson scored 36 of them!

Jack Butler
03-02-2009, 11:34 PM
Did you know that two teams from the USA turned up for the 1948 Olympics.
One from the Amateur Athletic Union and one from the Amateur Hockey Association.
It nearly caused the abandonment of the competition but a compromise was reached.
The AAU team marched in the Olympic parade and the AHA team played in the tournament.
Control of the sport in America subsequently moved from the AAU to the AHA.
I don't think I have to add anything to that............

Slow
03-03-2009, 08:46 AM
Slow...If you continue to try to start Canada vs U.S. fights/arguements here just for the sake of arguing I will shut it down....if you want to debate...fine...otherwise I am asking you to stop....

Like I'm the only one doing it?!?!?!?!??!?!

LOL!!!!

It is a FACT the U.S. has won two Gold since 1960, while Canada has won one.

Jack Butler
03-03-2009, 09:47 AM
Like I'm the only one doing it?!?!?!?!??!?!

LOL!!!!

It is a FACT the U.S. has won two Gold since 1960, while Canada has won one.

Very good....now who won the most since 1920?
Why do you eliminate 40 years?
The list Riggs posted is correct, so...
Stuck in the Sixties with a bag over your head.
That's a good look for you.......stunning!
How many USA teams will show in 2010?

Coach
03-03-2009, 10:51 AM
No...all you want to do is fight and argue....if you bring something else like a debate with all the facts then maybe it will stand...otherwise please stop selecting whatever is "good" for you. You have created basically a standard of selecting only certain aspects of the statistic. Yet when proven wrong you refuse to bring more to the table and cry that you win...i will not allow it, plain and simple...If you want an honest open debate, fine. But posing things to start fights isn't going to happen....

Jack Butler
03-03-2009, 08:00 PM
30 years ago today..........
Saturday March 3 1979, the Toronto Maple Leafs lined up before their home game against Philadelphia without a coach behind their bench.
Roger Neilson had been fired in a most bizarre fashion following the Leafs' fifth straight loss, 2-1 at Montreal the previous Thursday.
Toronto's owner, Harold Ballard, who had announced that Neilson's job was in jeopardy the week before, told reporters, "Neilson is gone," after the loss to the Canadians.
The next day, Ballard ordered general manager Jim Gregory to ask for Neilson's resignation but the coach would not comply.
Ballard publicly confirmed his decision to fire the coach and said he planned to offer Neilson another job in the organization.
Neilson, meanwhile, had his players fill out a questionnaire, indicating what mistakes they thought he had made to help him in future coaching work.
The players met on Saturday, blamed themselves for the slump and asked Ballard to retain Neilson.
Unable to find another coach in the meantime, Ballard decided to make a joke out of the incident and asked Neilson to appear behind the bench wearing a mask.
Neilson declined but finally agreed to make a late entrance. He appeared, to a standing ovation, just before the puck was dropped and guided his team to a 4-2 victory over the Flyers.

Slow
03-06-2009, 05:20 PM
No...all you want to do is fight and argue....if you bring something else like a debate with all the facts then maybe it will stand...otherwise please stop selecting whatever is "good" for you. You have created basically a standard of selecting only certain aspects of the statistic. Yet when proven wrong you refuse to bring more to the table and cry that you win...i will not allow it, plain and simple...If you want an honest open debate, fine. But posing things to start fights isn't going to happen....

Tell me how this is wrong:

Gold Medals since 1960
US-2
Canada -1

How is that "wrong"?

Jack Butler
03-06-2009, 07:58 PM
Tell me how this is wrong:

Gold Medals since 1960
US-2
Canada -1

How is that "wrong"?

Tell me how it "helps"?
What importance does only part of the story have on the "big picture"?
Or are you like my friends special brother that always "repeats" the same things.
Unless you suffer the same "handicap", step up to the plate and tell the "whole truth".
I doubt if you are "man" enough!

Slow
03-06-2009, 08:10 PM
The game in 1940 was not the game in 1960. 1960 is part of the modern era of the game.

Jack Butler
03-06-2009, 10:21 PM
Very good........Canada was far more dominate in the early years than the dominance they enjoy today.
We kick everyone’s as s in hockey.
The Canadian history in hockey, is the history of hockey!
Now tell me how it helps when it only answers part of the question?
Modern era in the 60's?
Although expansion started in 67'- 68', you have to look to the 90’s for the modern era Slugger!
In 1960 there were still 6 teams, so....

Jack Butler
03-06-2009, 10:29 PM
Here you go.
You make me laugh.....only 30 years off!
Candle wax burning your hand?

1992–present: Modern era

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_National_Hockey_League

Coach
03-06-2009, 11:31 PM
Let me put it this way total gold medals since 1984....Canada 1 United States 0...now do you understand interpretations just to start something...which is all you are doing..now take you Canada vs U.S. arguement elsewhere

Jack Butler
03-07-2009, 02:07 PM
It's your call to make, Coach.
If you hold him to it....we will never hear from him again.
He offers so little else.
.....this should be interesting!

Slow
03-08-2009, 12:59 PM
Let me put it this way total gold medals since 1984....Canada 1 United States 0...now do you understand interpretations just to start something...which is all you are doing..now take you Canada vs U.S. arguement elsewhere

I said the game changed by 1960, thus the 1960 reference.

Are we not allowed to hold opinions, unless those opinions make Canada seem like the greatest hockey nation ever?

GRUMPY
03-08-2009, 01:16 PM
actually all you have to do is remove the "seem like" and you'll have it correct.

Jack Butler
03-08-2009, 01:18 PM
"1960 is part of the modern era of the game. "

I said the game changed by 1960, thus the 1960 reference.

Are we not allowed to hold opinions, unless those opinions make Canada seem like the greatest hockey nation ever?

Just saying "no it isn't ", is not debating, IMO.
You don't have to admit it, just supply something that supports your side.
Show me where the game changed in 1960......modern era(shakes head)!
You will need to except the facts.
There are no facts that dethrones Canada's record of achievement.
Short of half facts and fabrication.........you lose!
Come on Slugger, step up to the plate or STFU!
You don't know, you don't know!
How are the burns....aloe vera should help!

Slow
03-08-2009, 01:25 PM
actually all you have to do is remove the "seem like" and you'll have it correct.

Sorry, Charlie, but Russia takes that title.

Slow
03-08-2009, 01:26 PM
Just saying "no it isn't ", is not debating, IMO.
You don't have to admit it, just supply something that supports your side.
Show me where the game changed in 1960......modern era(shakes head)!
You will need to except the facts.
There are no facts that dethrones Canada's record of achievement.
Short of half facts and fabrication.........you lose!
Come on Slugger, step up to the plate or STFU!
You don't know, you don't know!
How are the burns....aloe vera should help!

What was the score to the U.S. - Canada baseball game last night? Anyone know?

Jack Butler
03-08-2009, 01:28 PM
Who cares...this is a hockey thread.
Try and stay on topic or start a new thread Slugger.
Is it blistering?

Slow
03-08-2009, 01:30 PM
Who cares...this is a hockey thread.
Try and stay on topic or start a new thread Slugger.
Is it blistering?

Two golds since 1960?

Indeed, it IS blistering! :)

Jack Butler
03-08-2009, 01:41 PM
OK Slugger!
Did I tell you that means to the rest of the Hockey world?
The USA is so far down the pecking order in Hockey....I guess it's something to an American.
As a Canadian, it feels good to be King of the Hockey world.
Canadian accomplishments can not be condensed to one sentence of four words!
And the award for hockey achievements that are one sentence long goes to ............The USA.
You win Slugger.....you win!!!!

Coach
03-08-2009, 02:03 PM
O.K. slow...because you don't want an open debate....