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Scoff
03-04-2009, 12:52 PM
That's right ... got the notification yesterday morning, Shaw has given "Extreme Speed" subscribers a 50% increase from 10 Meg to 15 Meg download.

Downloading torrents and reached 1.9 Meg /sec last night from Torrentbytes ... ~27-30 K download on SpeedTest.net (Vista Gamer's Edition (Lite) x64). Upload has remained the same.

Regular Vista Ultimate x64 (without TCP/IP Hacks the above OS has) reached 17k in a couple tries.

Good Stuff. Anyone notice an increase?

I'm not a network techy or anything ... I just likes my Internet fast!

Almost 1TB of BluRay movies is about to get even larger at an even quicker pace.

Hans
03-04-2009, 05:37 PM
Looking good. Might even have to increase my Rwin to a value higher then 245 Kbytes since I am close to being Rwin limited for that average RTT of 84.

WEB100 Enabled Statistics:
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
checking for firewalls . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (client-to-server [C2S]) . . . . . 804.0kb/s
running 10s inbound test (server-to-client [S2C]) . . . . . . 19.43Mb/s

------ Client System Details ------
OS data: Name = Windows XP, Architecture = x86, Version = 5.1
Java data: Vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc., Version = 1.6.0_11

------ Web100 Detailed Analysis ------
Interprocess communications failed, unknown link type.
Link set to Full Duplex mode
No network congestion discovered.
Good network cable(s) found
Normal duplex operation found.

Web100 reports the Round trip time = 103.16 msec; the Packet size = 1460 Bytes; and
No packet loss - but packets arrived out-of-order 1.21% of the time
C2S throughput test: Packet queuing detected: 0.59%
S2C throughput test: Packet queuing detected: 36.64%
This connection is receiver limited 80.03% of the time.
This connection is sender limited 2.36% of the time.
This connection is network limited 17.61% of the time.

Web100 reports TCP negotiated the optional Performance Settings to:
RFC 2018 Selective Acknowledgment: ON
RFC 896 Nagle Algorithm: ON
RFC 3168 Explicit Congestion Notification: OFF
RFC 1323 Time Stamping: OFF
RFC 1323 Window Scaling: ON

Server 'web100.rit.edu' is not behind a firewall. [Connection to the ephemeral port was successful]
Client is probably behind a firewall. [Connection to the ephemeral port failed]
Packet size is preserved End-to-End
Server IP addresses are preserved End-to-End
Information: Network Address Translation (NAT) box is modifying the Client's IP address

WEB100 Kernel Variables:
Client: localhost/127.0.0.1
CurMSS: 1460
X_Rcvbuf: 33554432
X_Sndbuf: 33554432
AckPktsIn: 2311
AckPktsOut: 0
BytesRetrans: 0
CongAvoid: 0
CongestionOverCount: 0
CongestionSignals: 0
CountRTT: 2283
CurCwnd: 252580
CurRTO: 284
CurRwinRcvd: 251120
CurRwinSent: 6144
CurSsthresh: 2147483647
DSACKDups: 0
DataBytesIn: 0
DataBytesOut: 25867440
DataPktsIn: 0
DataPktsOut: 17478
DupAcksIn: 28
ECNEnabled: 0
FastRetran: 0
MaxCwnd: 252580
MaxMSS: 1460
MaxRTO: 444
MaxRTT: 252
MaxRwinRcvd: 251120
MaxRwinSent: 6144
MaxSsthresh: 0
MinMSS: 1440
MinRTO: 244
MinRTT: 40
MinRwinRcvd: 249880
MinRwinSent: 5840
NagleEnabled: 1
OtherReductions: 0
PktsIn: 2311
PktsOut: 17478
PktsRetrans: 0
RcvWinScale: 10
SACKEnabled: 3
SACKsRcvd: 0
SendStall: 0
SlowStart: 171
SampleRTT: 80
SmoothedRTT: 84
SndWinScale: 2
SndLimTimeRwin: 8978690
SndLimTimeCwnd: 1975503
SndLimTimeSender: 264922
SndLimTransRwin: 1
SndLimTransCwnd: 1
SndLimTransSender: 1
SndLimBytesRwin: 23463920
SndLimBytesCwnd: 2403520
SndLimBytesSender: 0
SubsequentTimeouts: 0
SumRTT: 235516
Timeouts: 0
TimestampsEnabled: 0
WinScaleRcvd: 2
WinScaleSent: 10
DupAcksOut: 0
StartTimeUsec: 598884
Duration: 11219301
c2sData: -1
c2sAck: -1
s2cData: -1
s2cAck: -1
half_duplex: 0
link: 100
congestion: 0
bad_cable: 0
mismatch: 0
spd: 18.45
bw: 107.98
loss: 0.000001000
avgrtt: 103.16
waitsec: 0.00
timesec: 11.00
order: 0.0121
rwintime: 0.8003
sendtime: 0.0236
cwndtime: 0.1761
rwin: 1.9159
swin: 256.0000
cwin: 1.9270
rttsec: 0.103161
Sndbuf: 33554432
aspd: 0.00000
CWND-Limited: 476.76

The theoretical network limit is 107.98 Mbps
The NDT server has a 16384.0 KByte buffer which limits the throughput to 2481.55 Mbps
Your PC/Workstation has a 245.0 KByte buffer which limits the throughput to 18.57 Mbps
The network based flow control limits the throughput to 18.67 Mbps

Client Data reports link is 'System Fault', Client Acks report link is 'System Fault'
Server Data reports link is 'System Fault', Server Acks report link is 'System Fault'

Madmax
03-05-2009, 06:14 PM
This is an upgrade that they are still working on in this town.

They don't even as last week that i know of have 15mb Xtreme service in this town.

It is only a 10mb service still and many ppl on shaw over the past few months even as recently as this past week have had CI's = Connection Interruptions with service due to whatever shaw is working on still.

I have seen it in action myself with such disturbances with shaw internet to the point where the internet is no longer available for 1-3 minutes.

I hope shaw for all its customers in this area/town get ther arses in gear and do so fast.

Hans
03-05-2009, 08:33 PM
I got 2 e-mails stating they enabled it, and my speed tests confirm it is enabled.

Shawn
03-05-2009, 09:55 PM
Same here, speeds have been increased.

mboy67
03-05-2009, 11:51 PM
yes but Internet lag is still occurring daily for a minute or so at a time. This is very annoying when playing on line games.

Super Gram
03-06-2009, 01:51 AM
Mines been increased too. But I only have fast.

FBI
03-06-2009, 07:14 AM
bill went up too.

Madmax
03-06-2009, 08:28 AM
I average 8mb-12mb and have done so since signing up with them about a week ago. I have the Xtreme 10mb service.

I average 650kbps-690kbps download since signing up with them about a week ago.

Now the DOWNLOAD has not changed for me yet.

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The upload speed has increased a little for me as of this morning:

The upload in testing this morning using Speedtest.net servers and i ran the test on serveral servers to get a better over all average = 811kbps-860kbps upload as of this morning.

-----

Basically i have been getting the UP TO 15mb service since a week ago and i don't think i will be averaging 14mb-15mb or more as 8mb-12mb is about as good as your going to get on a 15mb service, now being on a 10mb service as i am this is awesome.

The 15mb service increase SHOULD not be higher in price, go look on shaws website as it is the SAME price as the 10mb service.

All this is, is 10MB service increase with SHAWS BOOST service UP TO a 15mb service for the Xtreme Customers.

V Code
03-06-2009, 08:28 AM
well if they are still working on it (according to max)

my area is done and running strong on TL.

Madmax
03-06-2009, 08:39 AM
Officially the service is not here.

Unofficially like i posted in my last post i have been averaging 8mb-12mb since signing up with them last week.

They are still working on upgrading all areas of town and this is why ppl will get connection issues due to shaw still working on the increase in the 10mb and 15mb service.

So basically the power boost seems to have been working for me for about a week now (UNOFFICAL) service still in this area.

Soon i am certain it will be an OFFICIAL service for this area.


For those who are interested in reading about the 10mb service with powerboost, look no further but the link below:

http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Internet/Xtreme-I/

Also here for more informatiom on powerboost:

http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Internet/PowerBoost/


10mb SHAW XTREME service with and without powerboost:

10 MB 5.6 seconds (without powerboost) 3.2 seconds (with powerboost)

About a 40%-45% increase with the boost.

Hans
03-06-2009, 11:50 AM
My e-mail stated this is not powerboost, but is an increase of base speed. My measurements reflect that, as the first 10 seconds or more my speed is about 3 Mb/sec, and once powerboost is done it drops to an average download speed of about 1.8 Mb/sec.
I tested this with 2 downloads from 2 totally different locations using HTTP without a Proxy server, for a data transfer of about 6 Gig. At the end the average was 1.8 Mb/sec when adding both averages together.

I can get the 100 meg test file from Vianet in less then 60 seconds.

Madmax
03-06-2009, 03:07 PM
Ah so powerboost is only within the first 10-20secs of the initial download.

So it is now officially listed as a 15mb service option on shaws website instead of a 10mb option, earlier today it still showed 10mb service option with powerboost, but it clearly states NOW even faster = a 15mb service option which also includes powerboost. which powerboost WHOOPY for the little it gives you its not something to jump up and down for.

As for 10mb to a 15mb service we are only talking about a difference of getting a 4GB file in 30 min to only taking 28 min now... :) again nothing to jump up and down about, but it is a better option for consumers FOR A FREE UPGRADE in service.

Scabtacular
03-06-2009, 04:52 PM
I'm still getting SLAMED big time during peak hours, during supper time in my apartment complex.
Sometimes even less than 200kbs!!! That's not acceptable in my books!
HOWEVER, during early moring hours, and late nights, its like a rock at 1.75meg/sec.

Upper Decker
03-06-2009, 04:54 PM
you need your lines redone in that building i think. ive never ever seen my speeds get killed like that.

Hans
03-06-2009, 05:21 PM
Powerboost is really handy for downloading updates and drivers when using a download manager and enable multiple downloads for the same source, while staggering them.

Shawn
03-06-2009, 06:51 PM
I'm still getting SLAMED big time during peak hours, during supper time in my apartment complex.
Sometimes even less than 200kbs!!! That's not acceptable in my books!
HOWEVER, during early moring hours, and late nights, its like a rock at 1.75meg/sec.

Ya, I have seen the same issue at points. I was talking to one of Shaw's NOC guys I believe and said if its more than 50% of the speed you are paying for then usually they will look into it. So if your on 15 Meg and getting less than 7.5Mbps they consider that too be an issue so next time its that low again I am going to call them too look at things. Biggest problem is the speed boost works skewing the results, but if you do a large file you see the issue.

rmkryan
03-06-2009, 11:21 PM
My internet still seems lagy, if not more so than before.

Hans
03-07-2009, 03:05 PM
Life is good in P2P world.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1976/p2p.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2p.jpg)

0x7F0x450x4C0x46
04-29-2009, 04:13 PM
Yup. Torrenting Linux isos. I sure can't wait to move into my new place and get back on Shaw extreme so I can torrent some Linux isos.

Scoff
04-29-2009, 05:37 PM
Shoot, I posted this and forgot all about it ...

This is an upgrade that they are still working on in this town.

They don't even as last week that i know of have 15mb Xtreme service in this town.

It is only a 10mb service still and many ppl on shaw over the past few months even as recently as this past week have had CI's = Connection Interruptions with service due to whatever shaw is working on still.

I have seen it in action myself with such disturbances with shaw internet to the point where the internet is no longer available for 1-3 minutes.

I hope shaw for all its customers in this area/town get ther arses in gear and do so fast.[/

Sounds like some machines need some maintenance ... Hans, Shawn and I are/were screaming, some of you others are less fortunate I guess.

I didn't experience any outages nothing ... no, my connection doesn't drop. My machine is always in TIP TOP working order with no intermittent outages. ;-)


"yes but Internet lag is still occurring daily for a minute or so at a time. This is very annoying when playing on line games. "

Sounds like your machine/router ... online gaming has never been so graceful as it has the last couple months. I've only tried it in Warhammer, City of Heroes & WoW though.

I average 8mb-12mb and have done so since signing up with them about a week ago. I have the Xtreme 10mb service.

I average 650kbps-690kbps download since signing up with them about a week ago.

Now the DOWNLOAD has not changed for me yet.


Sounds like you need some system tweaks bud, your machine is bottlenecking perhaps? Like I said initially, my one OS doesn't show much up to ~17 Meg but the "hacked" OS (TCP/IP) is showing a sizable difference over that. I assume Han's machines have TCP/IP tweaks as well.

Lastly, no ... it wasn't the PowerBoost.

V Code
04-29-2009, 06:17 PM
why would someone need a tcp/ip "hacked OS" in order to see the speeds? standard vista is showing me 16-17meg service?

perhaps maybe you are buttering up the fact in sterad of saying "perhaps your computer is crap" :)

Hans
04-29-2009, 06:38 PM
I do have certain tcp/ip tweaks, as my lan is a Gigabit network. I basically have increased receive windows and increased network card buffers to ensure my lan speeds are within range. It's to a point where my hd's are the bottleneck...

However, if you use Vista the receive window is dynamically altered and there's not even a setting anymore to set it at a predefined size. (Finally!)

I think the TCP/IP hack he's referring to is increasing the amount of concurrent new connection requests that can be made with a windows machine. Microsoft has limited this to I believe 10 per so many seconds, to decrease the spreading of worms and dos attacks.
It's only an issue with P2P applications, as they tend to spew out a couple of hundred new connection attempts all at once.
However, new P2P applications now limit themselves to prevent going over that limitation and have the windows TCP/IP stack block any new connection attempts for a bit.

I don't run into that issue as all my P2P is now done on a Linux machine.

Scoff
04-30-2009, 12:04 PM
why would someone need a tcp/ip "hacked OS" in order to see the speeds? standard vista is showing me 16-17meg service?

perhaps maybe you are buttering up the fact in sterad of saying "perhaps your computer is crap" :)

Yes, standard Vista shows me 16-17 but the hacked OS shows me 27+

Big difference. ;)

Scoff
04-30-2009, 12:44 PM
I think the TCP/IP hack he's referring to is increasing the amount of concurrent new connection requests that can be made with a windows machine. Microsoft has limited this to I believe 10 per so many seconds, to decrease the spreading of worms and dos attacks.

Yep, they limit it to 10 but this wasn't the majority of the increase as my regular OS has this single tweak as well and still can't compete with the vLite version's performance. I know there was 4 or 5 registry hacks done to the lite version I run to bypass some hard coded restraints. I'd have to check my notes at home.

Sophie's_Mommy
04-30-2009, 12:45 PM
i have extreme speed and i have not noticed a difference, but i guess my hubby would notice it more then I cause he games and downloads, i just browse sites, my internet is fast as it is..

Hans
04-30-2009, 01:19 PM
Yep, they limit it to 10 but this wasn't the majority of the increase as my regular OS has this single tweak as well and still can't compete with the vLite version's performance. I know there was 4 or 5 registry hacks done to the lite version I run to bypass some hard coded restraints. I'd have to check my notes at home.


Well, speed tests between Vista, XP and Debian do not show any major differences at my end.
Are you looking at average speeds, or peak speeds? How long does your 27 Mbit stay 27 Mbit?

Scoff
04-30-2009, 05:04 PM
About average .... I'll test again but I checked for about a week afterward and it was almost always between 26-29. Of course the odd time I dropped to 23/24 and then shot up to 30.

Most of my online time is after 8:00 PM so the tests would've been done between 8 & 12 more than likely though.

I would think you could get a difference between Vista and XP.

Scoff
04-30-2009, 05:10 PM
i have extreme speed and i have not noticed a difference, but i guess my hubby would notice it more then I cause he games and downloads, i just browse sites, my internet is fast as it is..

Correct, you probably wouldn't notice any difference browsing web sites with the alloted increase ... you could probably run regular high speed and still not really notice a difference. I assume it was your hubby's choice to get Extreme as it's more for the Power Users. ;)

V Code
04-30-2009, 07:42 PM
so your magic tweaked OS is somehow giving you service twice what the modem will permit? your always on extreme plus a speed boost?

you better post some screens of some credible speed tests before you continue

Sophie's_Mommy
05-01-2009, 11:51 AM
Correct, you probably wouldn't notice any difference browsing web sites with the alloted increase ... you could probably run regular high speed and still not really notice a difference. I assume it was your hubby's choice to get Extreme as it's more for the Power Users. ;)

ya it was his choice, he likes to game and do downloading so he wanted extreme..i do notice a slight difference, my parents have just regular HS and when i am visiting them i ll use the net there and it is a little slower...but hubby notices it alot more then i do..lol.

italiandomino
08-01-2009, 11:17 PM
Same here, speeds have been increased.

why not Vianet internet ?

italiandomino
08-01-2009, 11:21 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/530538861.png

Macs II
08-01-2009, 11:45 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/530546859.png

Konig-OV
08-02-2009, 06:00 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/531021503.png

Through my wireless N x-treme router.

italiandomino
08-02-2009, 11:07 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/531140029.png

Andre
08-02-2009, 11:24 PM
uhmmm... you guys do realize that all these speed test site are usless now that shaw has speed boost right?

Macs II
08-02-2009, 11:52 PM
yeah but this is still pretty good steady speed


http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q104/Macs20006/untitled4444444.jpg

Andre
08-02-2009, 11:57 PM
Oh they definitely are but 1.8MB/sec is only about 33% of what your speed test above states

Macs II
08-03-2009, 12:01 AM
but it's lot better than what BELL offers lol

Andre
08-03-2009, 12:05 AM
I don't know. I've never tried bell 15MB plan but would have to assume it's around the same speed wise. No idea price wise or if it's even available here.

Macs II
08-03-2009, 12:13 AM
Oh they definitely are but 1.8MB/sec is only about 33% of what your speed test above states


BTW ...is that some kind of new math ?

Andre
08-03-2009, 12:14 AM
yup i just pulled it out of my a$$ but it's close

Macs II
08-03-2009, 12:17 AM
1.8 megabytes = 14.4 megabits ...so it's over 50% of my speed test

Andre
08-03-2009, 12:20 AM
There's 8 bits in a byte

Macs II
08-03-2009, 12:32 AM
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q104/Macs20006/untitled666666-1.jpg

Andre
08-03-2009, 12:36 AM
Yeah I know. I was just wondering if you'd look it up.
Good job on avoiding my original post though. The speed test doesn't work for shaw because of the speed boost.
and my second
I've never tried bell 15MB plan but would have to assume it's around the same speed wise. No idea price wise or if it's even available here.

Macs II
08-03-2009, 12:41 AM
The speed test doesn't work for shaw because of the speed boost.

I agree with that but it's faster than BELL and cheaper too .......

Andre
08-03-2009, 12:48 AM
It might be faster than bell but I don't know. Neither you or I have tried the same tier from bell. Probably is cheaper though.
I know my ISP is slower but much cheaper and I can download more that 3X as much on a similar shaw package. So that is a much better deal.

Macs II
08-03-2009, 12:54 AM
I can download 100 GB/month ....thats way more than I need .....few movies for the kids,some music ....mostly I just watch videos online

Andre
08-03-2009, 01:01 AM
Yeah but bandwidth requirements increase every day. Instead of increasing your bandwidth your ISP is increasing your speed to get to those limits and then you have to pay for the extra GB's.
Emails, web pages, online video all basic web browsing are taking more bandwidth. You should want your bandwidth increasing instead of your speed.

Macs II
08-03-2009, 01:10 AM
I'll worry about that when it happens ...so far I haven't had any problems at all ...and speed is what matters to me most right now so I can watch anything I want and download at the same time

Andre
08-03-2009, 01:15 AM
Yeah but most site limit the bandwidth you can use. So how is the speed really that much better other than direct downloads?

Macs II
08-03-2009, 01:21 AM
I can download movies (more than 1 one at a time) and watch high quality videos at the same time,surf the web and all fast ...no buffering in videos ..no matter how many downloads I have at the same time ...everything just runs smoothly and fast

Andre
08-03-2009, 01:23 AM
so does mine and I can do it twice as long as you for much cheaper

Macs II
08-03-2009, 01:31 AM
I suppose you get what you pay for ......I'm paying $43.00 a month and getting my moneys worth ...so I can't complain .......I know people with DSL and their internet is slow as a snail .....I had it once and would never go back

Upper Decker
08-03-2009, 01:34 AM
It might be faster than bell but I don't know. Neither you or I have tried the same tier from bell. Probably is cheaper though.
I know my ISP is slower but much cheaper and I can download more that 3X as much on a similar shaw package. So that is a much better deal.

I have to agree 100% with Andre on the download cap part, 100GB a month isnt near enough for me. I figure whats the point of having such a fast line if I can (and usually do) fill my quota within 3 or 4 days. But I am a very impatient person and want it now now now lol.

Macs II
08-03-2009, 01:35 AM
I'm just curious what do you guys download ? .....100GB in few days

Andre
08-03-2009, 01:43 AM
I suppose you get what you pay for ......I'm paying $43.00 a month and getting my moneys worth ...so I can't complain .......I know people with DSL and their internet is slow as a snail .....I had it once and would never go back
Shaw High Speed = 7.5MB/sec, 60 GB/month data transfer, $41.95/month standalone
TekSavvy = 5MB but I'm getting 7MB/sec, 200GB/month data transfer, $29.95/month

That's a much better deal. When you compare apples to apples.

Andre
08-03-2009, 01:49 AM
I'm just curious what do you guys download ? .....100GB in few days

One day when I had Shaw I was looking at my bill. One for cable TV and one for internet. Then I realized that everything I was paying for cable I could get from the internet so why am I paying for cable or double what I need.
So I download all my TV shows. Thus I need more bandwidth.

Macs II
08-03-2009, 01:50 AM
because I have extreme speed bundled with other shaw services lol ...thats why

Macs II
08-03-2009, 01:54 AM
One day when I had Shaw I was looking at my bill. One for cable TV and one for internet. Then I realized that everything I was paying for cable I could get from the internet so why am I paying for cable or double what I need.
So I download all my TV shows. Thus I need more bandwidth.


that makes sense because shaw tv sucks ....I'm going to cancel it ...then my internet goes up $5.00 a month ...but I can still watch everything online ...I've been doing it for a long time now .....I only kept the cable for the kids but now they don't even watch it

Andre
08-03-2009, 02:08 AM
right, so you can download all your kids tv shows and all your favourites as long as you don't go over your cap but then they are going to charge you when you go over your cap.
With my ISP I don't have to worry about that.
I downloadd free way more than you. For cheaper. = Better deal.

kodak57
08-12-2009, 05:16 PM
Hope shaw is all you guys say it is,gave ma bell my notice and going to shaw at end of month,now getting 2 calls a day from bell.

TheManInBlack
08-17-2009, 11:10 AM
I'm still waiting for my speed increase

Konig-OV
08-21-2009, 03:20 PM
right, so you can download all your kids tv shows and all your favourites as long as you don't go over your cap but then they are going to charge you when you go over your cap.
With my ISP I don't have to worry about that.
I downloadd free way more than you. For cheaper. = Better deal.

Shaw doesn't charge for overage.

Hans
08-23-2009, 10:17 PM
Cheaper is not always better. It depends on your needs and what you compare it with.

Andre
08-24-2009, 01:26 AM
Shaw doesn't charge for overage.
You're right they don't. If they notice you get a warning and if they notice a second time your account is suspend for the rest of the month.


Cheaper is not always better. It depends on your needs and what you compare it with.
Comparing regular highspeed
my speeds the same
my upload is faster 800Kbps
cap is over 3.3 X higher
and the price is lower

Hans
08-24-2009, 12:46 PM
ok, now lets look at a couple of the issues with your comparison.
I had both DSL and Cable, so I speak from experience.

DSL 7 Mbps not available due to being to far away from CO. The further away, the more issues you will have with line quality and it will affect your DSL connection. I live in the East end.

Bell throttles traffic, even if you purchase it from third party retailers who do not throttle it themselves.

There's a lot less issues with line quality on cable. Your in house wiring can cause serious issues with a DSL connection.

I am not aware of any DSL provider providing speed boost for the first little bit of HTTP traffic.

DSL requires authentication with a user name and password, similar to a dial up account. Normally you set it up permanently in the DSL modem. Cable requires nothing besides plugging it in and enabling DHCP.

DSL does not use the standard network 1500 MTU size, meaning that the DSL modem has to redo the packets. Pending on type of modem it could slow you down.

Andre
08-24-2009, 01:39 PM
I had both DSL and Cable, so I speak from experience.
So have I.


DSL 7 Mbps not available due to being to far away from CO. The further away, the more issues you will have with line quality and it will affect your DSL connection. I live in the East end.
I have a 7040/800 profile and I live near the cemetery. There's 4 remotes that I know of between Queen Street and here. There are remotes all over this city.
You might not get the full speed with dsl just as you might not get your full speed with cable due to a congested node in any given area of town.
six of one half a dozen of another


Bell throttles traffic, even if you purchase it from third party retailers who do not throttle it themselves.
A few of the 3rd party retailers have a simple work around to bypass throttling. Even if you don't want to use their method there are others that work for bell.


There's a lot less issues with line quality on cable. Your in house wiring can cause serious issues with a DSL connection.
I've had issues with line quality with both cable and dsl. Both were fixed with a simple phone call and the drop was replaced.
Issues with wiring inside the house happen with both dsl and cable. The wiring in the house I'm in now is about 50 years old and my line stats are great.


I am not aware of any DSL provider providing speed boost for the first little bit of HTTP traffic.
You've got me with that one. Though getting the first little bit of a file a few seconds faster doesn't really matter to me and I'm certainly not going to pay more for it.


DSL requires authentication with a user name and password, similar to a dial up account. Normally you set it up permanently in the DSL modem. Cable requires nothing besides plugging it in and enabling DHCP.
Seriously you are bring this up? I believe it took me somewhere in the area of 15 seconds or so to log into my modem. Enter my user name and password and click ok. I've only done it the once though and that was a few years ago so give me a plus or minus of 5 seconds on that one.


DSL does not use the standard network 1500 MTU size, meaning that the DSL modem has to redo the packets. Pending on type of modem it could slow you down.
Standard on my network is 1492 which was the default setting on my modem when I got it. I'm not certain of this one though so if NetDawg checks this maybe he can verify it.

anyway the fact is that
Comparing regular highspeed
my speeds the same
my upload is faster 800Kbps
cap is over 3.3 X higher
and the price is lower

to each their own though

Hans
08-24-2009, 02:11 PM
You use the word I, but at the same time you have to realize there's many users who have no idea they can even log into their modem. Let alone figure out a way around throttling, line quality affecting performance, etc...

I find Cable modem to be more plug and play than DSL, and less prone to line quality issues and even equipment issues.

The HTTP boost does matter if you browse the internet on a regular basis, and it's provided for free. I take it if it's free.

Andre
08-24-2009, 02:55 PM
If the user has no idea how to do any of these things, that's what tech support is for.
You just call in and say how do I log into my modem(not recommended with bell) and they walk you through it or just click on the FAQ on the companies website. I mean it's as basic as entering a url and hitting enter. Pretty simple
If I want MLPPP I just call in and say I want single line MLPPP and they say ok, tell me to click a couple of things and it's done.
Tech support is excellent. Calls answered quickly. In English. Canadian company. They don't follow a script or hang up on you when you mention your router.

As far as being more plug and play I find differences so small to be negligible.
Line quality issues as mentioned before I've had the same issue with both dsl and cable and both were fixed with a phone call. As for equipment, I've had one modem replaced by shaw and no equipment issues with my dsl modems.

As for speed boost I've never really notice much difference between the two when just surfing webpages. I mean maybe a few fractions of a second but does that really matter that much? not to me.It's not free it's included in the price of your internet.
Stand alone mines $29.95. Shaw's is $41.95. That's $144 a year I rather keep in my pocket ;)

TheManInBlack
08-25-2009, 01:11 PM
I gotta say I'm not compuer expert but I know which inernet made my videos stream faster and my DSL hands down was fater. But I hate Bell so I will stay with Shaw

8th
08-26-2009, 08:00 PM
I gotta say I'm not compuer expert That part of your statement is correct:thumbs_up:

SquiggleGiggles
08-29-2009, 06:55 PM
because I have extreme speed bundled with other shaw services lol ...thats why

Just ask T-Pot, he should know about this here plan :teeth:

Andre
09-01-2009, 06:03 AM
Fun fact.
As of today that bundle is going to cost you 4-6 bucks more a month. lol

hairybacknofrills
09-11-2009, 07:50 PM
Fun fact.
As of today that bundle is going to cost you 4-6 bucks more a month. lol

and so will the Calabrese salami

Koss
09-28-2009, 02:07 AM
http://www.johntp.com/2006/04/19/how-to-increase-download-speeds-of-utorrent/

A handy guide to help to get the most out of certain applications if you find that downloads slow. You may have to dig around the options menu to find the changes to make on new versions of the program.

Konig-OV
10-18-2009, 05:22 PM
If the user has no idea how to do any of these things, that's what tech support is for.
You just call in and say how do I log into my modem(not recommended with bell) and they walk you through it or just click on the FAQ on the companies website. I mean it's as basic as entering a url and hitting enter. Pretty simple
If I want MLPPP I just call in and say I want single line MLPPP and they say ok, tell me to click a couple of things and it's done.
Tech support is excellent. Calls answered quickly. In English. Canadian company. They don't follow a script or hang up on you when you mention your router.

As far as being more plug and play I find differences so small to be negligible.
Line quality issues as mentioned before I've had the same issue with both dsl and cable and both were fixed with a phone call. As for equipment, I've had one modem replaced by shaw and no equipment issues with my dsl modems.

As for speed boost I've never really notice much difference between the two when just surfing webpages. I mean maybe a few fractions of a second but does that really matter that much? not to me.It's not free it's included in the price of your internet.
Stand alone mines $29.95. Shaw's is $41.95. That's $144 a year I rather keep in my pocket ;)


You can guarantee that if Teksavy had the same amount of customers that Bell and Shaw had, their customers would be faced with the bandwidth dilemma that is faced with Bell and Shaw now. You would be limited and scrutinized just the same. So enjoy it while it lasts.

Especially if Bell wins their bid against CRTC and they will be allowed to charge 3rd party companies what ever they want. You can see price go up and bandwidth go down.