I'm Tempted...

[Craig Huckerby]

I've had some very good feedback thus far on an idea I came up with for the waterfront. I'm tempted to pitch this concept to developers or the city. Just wondering what the SooNet crew about the idea. If you want to read my idea, that I call Great Lakes Place click on the link provided. I personally think the concept is more marketable than the Borealis Idea, though I wouldn't mind seeing that become a reality too. What do you think? http://www.soonews.ca/viewcolumn.php?id=13168

[Sophie's_Mommy]

i think that would be a great idea, people from the soo travel to places just to go to a park like that. good luck

[puppypower]

we just came back from Muskegon's Michigan Adventure and we spent the entire time in the wave pools. I would help raise money for this idea, count me in

[kim gagnon]

that would be great !!!! i myself would never leave.lol

[Stickler]

I would definitely be interested in an idea such as that. I think it would be a great entertainment complex for our city and with the development of Borealis, this city with have the new spark that it badly needs. Not to mention aswell, added jobs to the community.

[Simba]

I think that would be a fantastic idea!!

[houlegan]

I think it is an awesome idea Craig - look how many people each weekend go to Thunder Falls or Wolf lodge or Cedar Point / Wonderland. The Tourism to the Sault would definitely increase!

[hp2]

very good Idea indeed!!

we were in st ignace this weekend to only find there is the biggest indoor water park only at our back door being 77 miles from the mack!!


here is the site to check it out!! http://www.avalanchebay.com open all year round!!!!

[tippikitty]

Only thing is....I wouldn't have a indoor ski hill...that's what Searchmont if for. I also wouldn't have shopping as we already have that. I want something new that we don't already have.

[Genny]

Great idea. If only we would stop with the what if's, how nice, good idea - call me when it is done ---- and ACT on SOMETHING!

[kathy590]

Yup, I'm heading to Avalanche bay at the end of the month, and then off to Traverse City. We love water parks, its an awesome idea.

[Craig Huckerby]

The reason I like the winter element of this idea is that no one else has a park like that in North America...it doesn't have to be a ski hill , bumslides, ice sculptures etc would also work, but the ski hill could be a training ground for those who are just trying skiing for the first time. Less intimidating than a hill like searchmont...maybe searchmont could even sponsor that part of the project - who knows. I know on hot summer day with the humidity, I would love to experience winter again just to cool off.

[tippikitty]

Winter in the summer would be cool, just don't think the skiing part would go over too well. People who do ski want a mountain not an indoor bunny hill. JMO

[kathy590]

I'm not so sure about that, my daughter calls Searchmont "Death Mountain". lol

[tippikitty]

OH I wouldn't ski at Seachmont either /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/lol.gif but I'm one of few.

[Arimac]

I'm in! You are a true visionary Craig.

That spot is tagged as a "wetlands" right now. Is that another word for "let's ignore it and let the weeds grow"?

[Craig Huckerby]

Yeah I somewhat Agree with you tippi about the bunny hill thing. What I invision would the hill being about 10 to 15 storeys high with different levels of terrain and drop. But hey, it's not set in stone, that's the best part of the creative thinking behind this , listening to other ideas. It could always be a year round tobbogan hill , or cross country trails or any number of things. Thanks for your comments guys and girls.

[tippikitty]

Well I really want a water park and have been saying that way before they were talking about the Borealis project. Was even thinking of it in that same spot.
Either way I hope something works out for this city.

[adigirl]

I like this idea way over the borealis project. I think it would be fantastic!! You can play in the pool and then build a snowman! How cool is that?

[Return of Too Many Daves]

Dream on buddy! I'd be glad if we had one more restaurant and one more bar on the waterfront. But for some reason this town just can't work out how best to use it's waterfront. Look at the moment you go for a stroll along the waterfront and what are your closest options for food? Well you could go to Docks, it's Okay I guess. And what else? Well your next closest would be Zellers I think. Very glamarous.

[Barney Rubble]

things that i think are viable in the Sault that we have out here are bungee jumping & vertical incline rock climbing.

i'm a definite in but the virc might need to wait cuz of shoulder bursitis /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif

[MaO3]

I think that your idea is really good Craig. I like the water park idea, indoor wave pool is great, of course what water park is complete without some serious water slides.

As for the winter thing, well, I think locals see lots of winter, but tourists don't necessarily get the chance to experience it. So for the tourists I think that would be a good idea.

As for Daves statement about restaurants. A nice addition would be a DECENT restaurant, good food, moderately priced.

The concept in my opinion is a really good one Craig. Sure would be nice if some MONEY people would jump on the bandwagon and come up with some CASH!

[Super Gram]

I have already told you Craig what I think of your idea. I left a comment on your site. Even if we had a water park to start with would be wonderful. I don't like the Borealis idea and never did. But hey it don't have to be there. But it would be better there.

[Huggy85]

This city needs people like you and politicians willing to think outside the box with a concept like this. Something like that could make the Sault a Northern Ontario tourist destination, rather than an "interesting place to check out on the way through".

Your idea gets my support and encouragement and sounds a lot better than that other one.

[Macs II]

water parks always do well but don't try to duplicate (skiing and so on) something we already have. It has to be something new to this area.

[Barney Rubble]

screw tourism...how bout, maybe, real jobs and attract industry to the sault....maybe then, will the youth of ssm have a chance to stay put rather than move on

[Arimac]

Tourism is an industry Barney. There are lots of good jobs created at theme parks. Not to mention the logisitcs of running something like that - tradespeople like millwrights, mechanics, etc. to make sure everything runs smoothly. Not everything has to be dark-blue collar to be a real job.

[Craig Huckerby]

Tourism is a one billion dollar industry in Toronto alone, when you add in hotels, restuarants, theatres,(to name a few of the spin offs, along with the attractions. To say there's no real jobs in the tourism sector is very misleading.

[washawee]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Macs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">water parks always do well but don't try to duplicate (skiing and so on) something we already have. It has to be something new to this area. </div></div>

Exactly. Especially when the ski resort is barely staying open.

[Craig Huckerby]

I would think an indoor winter playground would be new to the area. The whole concept is about celebrating the Great Lakes, what we have to offer on the outside , but bringing it indoors for year round recreation instead of seasonal.

[Craig Huckerby]

Looks like the parcel of land I was loooking at for this idea is already taken. Just noticed on the agenda for council is a 6 storey condo and parking garage for that spot. Oh well, there's other locations that might be suitable for this idea...

[Macs II]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Craig Huckerby</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would think an indoor winter playground would be new to the area. The whole concept is about celebrating the Great Lakes, what we have to offer on the outside , but bringing it indoors for year round recreation instead of seasonal. </div></div>
I think we get enough winter here,it might be a good idea somewhere where they never see snow but not up here.
It would also be very costly to keep it that cold (below zero) and people would have to carry and wear winter clothes...in the middle of the summer...that wont fly. We should not try to duplicate what we already have outside...period. People who come up here can see the real thing right outside and we're used to it anyway so there would be very little interest from the locals.
It has to be something different and new so everyone will enjoy it locals and the tourists.

[Craig Huckerby]

Remember though this is a tourist attraction, it's meant to draw people here that may never experience a great lakes winter. Again, it doesn't have to be a ski hill, any sort of winter activity would work there. We have beaches too, so why have a wave park?

[Macs II]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Craig Huckerby</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Remember though this is a tourist attraction, it's meant to draw people here that may never experience a great lakes winter. Again, it doesn't have to be a ski hill, any sort of winter activity would work there. We have beaches too, so why have a wave park? </div></div>

For one you can never experience winter indoors. Second people who want to experience great lakes winter will come here no matter what as the snow train is a good example of that.

Yes we have beaches but they are usable for only couple of months and there are no slides or any type of entertainment all you do is lay there and play in the sand.
Water park is different/fun and people would use it year around.

[Craig Huckerby]

I hear ya Macs, but I just think a winter playground indoors (it would be like a big freezer) with bumslides and the works would be unique enough to draw Americans and even some Canadians. Think hot summer day with humidity - I know that's where I would go to get instant satisfaction and some fun too! Anyway, it's just an idea.

[Macs II]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Craig Huckerby</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I hear ya Macs, but I just think a winter playground indoors (it would be like a big freezer) with bumslides and the works would be unique enough to draw Americans and even some Canadians. Think hot summer day with humidity - I know that's where I would go to get instant satisfaction and some fun too! Anyway, it's just an idea. </div></div>

Lot of Americans don't want to see snow and prefer warmer climate. Canadians are tired of the snow. What comes to hot and humid weather how long does that usually last here? When the real cold weather and snow comes how many people would wanna pay and go see more of it indoors? Keep in mind our summer is very short and people want to enjoy the warm weather while they can.
Water park is totally opposite,people would love it in the hot summer day as much as they would on a cold snowy winter day.

[EyelashExtensions]

Any kind of water park is what this city is missing! If I go on vacation a water park is a must for me. We should have something like that already. I think its a great idea and much needed!

[Craig Huckerby]

Don't forget Macs, this plan calls for numerous indoor attractions, not just one. The water park is one element, the winter park is another and so is the skateboard park...maybe an IMAX theatre or something else ...it needs 5 different attractions to fit under the Great Lakes concept.

[kitty&mimi]

i was in soo mich on sunday on portage ave., you wouldnt believe the tourists, all little tourist shops, etc....a city so much smaller than ours and they seems to have way more tourists
i think the city needs to invest in some good marketing people

[JohnnyCash]

I think we have another Philip Garforth on our hands here alot of talk and little action

[Craig Huckerby]

Of course you think that way MIB ...but once again, your opinion is based on personal attacks against me with no merit. I didn't say I was building this, I just came up with the idea. How about gathering some facts about this before embarrassing yourself again.

[kathy590]

Theres always one in the crowd, don't worry about it, its a great idea.

[The 6th Member Of AC/DC]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Macs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Craig Huckerby</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would think an indoor winter playground would be new to the area. The whole concept is about celebrating the Great Lakes, what we have to offer on the outside , but bringing it indoors for year round recreation instead of seasonal. </div></div>
I think we get enough winter here,it might be a good idea somewhere where they never see snow but not up here.
It would also be very costly to keep it that cold (below zero) and people would have to carry and wear winter clothes...in the middle of the summer...that wont fly. We should not try to duplicate what we already have outside...period. People who come up here can see the real thing right outside and we're used to it anyway so there would be very little interest from the locals.
It has to be something different and new so everyone will enjoy it locals and the tourists.
</div></div>

So why is Great Wolf Lodge popular all year around?

[Macs II]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Craig Huckerby</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't forget Macs, this plan calls for numerous indoor attractions, not just one. The water park is one element, the winter park is another and so is the skateboard park...maybe an IMAX theatre or something else ...it needs 5 different attractions to fit under the Great Lakes concept. </div></div>


IMAX is great but a skateboard park will only attract few teenagers ,it would be no interest to anyone else.

[Macs II]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The 6th Member Of AC/DC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Macs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Craig Huckerby</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would think an indoor winter playground would be new to the area. The whole concept is about celebrating the Great Lakes, what we have to offer on the outside , but bringing it indoors for year round recreation instead of seasonal. </div></div>
I think we get enough winter here,it might be a good idea somewhere where they never see snow but not up here.
It would also be very costly to keep it that cold (below zero) and people would have to carry and wear winter clothes...in the middle of the summer...that wont fly. We should not try to duplicate what we already have outside...period. People who come up here can see the real thing right outside and we're used to it anyway so there would be very little interest from the locals.
It has to be something different and new so everyone will enjoy it locals and the tourists.
</div></div>

So why is Great Wolf Lodge popular all year around? </div></div>

or maybe a shrine dedicated to Chilltown or maybe a Kiss museum run by the one and only,most dedicated KISS fan in the world our very own ID.

[Larimar]

not sure i'm totally sold on the idea-tho i like the water park part...

I used to love the roller skating arena-that didn't last long-too bad really.

[Barney Rubble]

hey..jobs are jobs..thats fine but i think you can tourism a place to death
if it wasnt for those call centers, whaT Would there be???
st marys is not hiring, neither is tenaris or the steel plant (& if they are, not in big numbers).
tourism is good for the city, i agree, but not for average joe who works there at $7-8 an hour...Yippee!!!
and you think buddy coming out of high school is looking forward to his tourism job at Searchmont or Borealis or whatever???

[Barney Rubble]

concentrate on industry & these things will come....dont & expect a coming ghost town

[Barney Rubble]

here's something...

did u know that Canada only has 19 petroleum refineries.
wonder why we pay so much & why so much is shipped off to the U.S.???
why is petroleum shipped to Sarnia?
wouldnt SSM be closer to out west?
get our lazt arse politicians (fed & prov) to build refineries & catalysts & get SSM council to push for zoning there.

[Macs II]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barney Rubble</div><div class="ubbcode-body">here's something...

did u know that Canada only has 19 petroleum refineries.
wonder why we pay so much & why so much is shipped off to the U.S.???
why is petroleum shipped to Sarnia?
wouldnt SSM be closer to out west?
get our lazt arse politicians (fed & prov) to build refineries & catalysts & get SSM council to push for zoning there. </div></div>

yeah.. thats just what we need here , we could build a huge oil refinery on the riverfront and right beside it a nice nuclear powerplant. /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/purpbanana.gif

[adigirl]

And a dog run.

[Macs II]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: adigirl</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And a dog run. </div></div>

http://niagarapaws.com/images/dog5bw.jpg

[adigirl]

rofl He's cute!

[Craig Huckerby]

http://soonews.ca/viewphoto.php?id=8908 not sure if this picture will work, but I spent about 6 hours doing up this drawing of what I invision for the project. Hope the link works.

[adigirl]

i love the great lakes on the top of it.

[Barney Rubble]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Macs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barney Rubble</div><div class="ubbcode-body">here's something...

did u know that Canada only has 19 petroleum refineries.
wonder why we pay so much & why so much is shipped off to the U.S.???
why is petroleum shipped to Sarnia?
wouldnt SSM be closer to out west?
get our lazt arse politicians (fed & prov) to build refineries & catalysts & get SSM council to push for zoning there. </div></div>

yeah.. thats just what we need here , we could build a huge oil refinery on the riverfront and right beside it a nice nuclear powerplant. /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/purpbanana.gif </div></div>


i understand.
at your age, you're looking for a retirement community!

/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

[Huggy85]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barney Rubble</div><div class="ubbcode-body">here's something...

did u know that Canada only has 19 petroleum refineries.
wonder why we pay so much & why so much is shipped off to the U.S.???
why is petroleum shipped to Sarnia?
wouldnt SSM be closer to out west?
get our lazt arse politicians (fed & prov) to build refineries & catalysts & get SSM council to push for zoning there. </div></div>

Actually, I heard a rumour not long ago that one of the major oil companies is talking to the city about just that. Very preliminary talks at this time. Don't know where it would be put though.

[Barney Rubble]

it would be nice to see as most of the industry in northern ontario is teeter-tottering steel, wood & mining industry.

[Huggy85]

If it did happen, it would boost this city like nothing ever has before. The suggestion I heard is for about 1,000 full time, high paying jobs after construction is done.

[Barney Rubble]

& kids outta college as chemical engineers / technicians etc, security professionals etc etc...real "HIGH END" jobs instead of the norm tourist jobs.

i hear you all with tourism, but we need a blend with these other type jobs & plus, usually tourism jobs are seasonal & low paying.

[Craig Huckerby]

I agree Barney, we need as much as we can get in this city. Tourism is just one factor, more industry, educational growth (Algoma University expanding to at least 10,000 students) and the retail and entertainment will follow.

[Barney Rubble]

i'm not trying to be negative.
personally, i favour industry..as you can tell /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
at least, you're out there fielding ideas & submitting them whereas alot of folk just b-itc-h & complain & do nothing!

[Macs II]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barney Rubble</div><div class="ubbcode-body">& kids outta college as chemical engineers / technicians etc, security professionals etc etc...real "HIGH END" jobs instead of the norm tourist jobs.

i hear you all with tourism, but we need a blend with these other type jobs & plus, usually tourism jobs are seasonal & low paying. </div></div>

We were talking about particular waterfront property and thats not a place for heavy industry. No one is arguing against more high paying jobs though /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

[JohnnyCash]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Craig Huckerby</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Of course you think that way MIB ...but once again, your opinion is based on personal attacks against me with no merit. I didn't say I was building this, I just came up with the idea. How about gathering some facts about this before embarrassing yourself again. </div></div>

Embarrassing myself, Your the one embarrassing yourself being delusional enough to think that you might have enough pull to make this happen. 300 million dollars go right ahead there rockafeller

[Craig Huckerby]

Once again, I never said anything like that MIB so you are embarrassing yourself. I guess in your world, people can't have ideas. I would like you to show me where I said I was going to build this. Please show me the facts MIB or just keep your personal hate for me out of the equation.

[kathy590]

Again, don't worry about the negative comments, if everyone had that mentality, the world would be such a negative place. An idea is an idea, I'm glad you put it out there.

[adigirl]

Craig, I think you have a great idea! In my opinion it is a hell of a lot better than the borealis project.

[MaO3]

Yep I agree with Adigirl. Better all around idea than Borealis.

More enjoyable for not only tourists but also for those of us who live here.

[Craig Huckerby]

thanks for your comments everyone, I don't mind negative comments, but when they are based on not liking me instead of the idea itself, well, there's just too many people holding personal grudges in this world and I don't think anyone has time for that. For some reason this MIB person doesn't like me which is fine with me but he uses this board to attack me at every opportunity regardless of the topic.

[kodak57]

hey amusement(water) park is a good idea......1 problem well at least 2,MONEY....PEOPLE,where do we get them,Americans dont usually make the trek across the bridge.Most Americans think the world ends at the north end of the I-75.Barney is right industry is what we need,good paying steady jobs.I mean hotels in this town want anywhere from 70-150$ for a decent room,darn near twice the price of same in Michigan.....

[Craig Huckerby]

I've been doing some research on this, the cost of building a complex like this is approx. $485 sq / foot ...the complex would need to be approx. 200,000 sq feet. so basically, about 100 million. That's 20 million more than Borealis. Americans like big things, right now there's nothing here to grab their attention, I think with a 500 foot tower and a huge complex like this idea, would be enough to at least get their attention and maybe draw them over here to take a look. Marketing in the U.S. would be crucial for something like this as well.

[Return of Too Many Daves]

I think MIB's main complaint may be that this is just a pipe dream. It's never going to happen. I'd like to make a swimming pool full of chocolate sauce and have playboy bunnies swimming in it, but it just isn't going to happen. Given that, how constructive is this thread? Where are we going with it? Just a thought.

[MaO3]

Things like this have to start somewhere - dont' they. Disney world was one mans idea, now look at it.

Craig stated right from the start that he had an idea - not a plan.

Everything start with an idea

[Craig Huckerby]

Isn't everything a pipe dream at some point? The purpose of this thread was to talk about ideas for the waterfront, being that Borealis isn't moving forward at this point. I have had some interest from different parties, so I wouldn't say this is pointless. If by a chance it can get off the ground at some point, great, if not, well it's just an idea from one man who likes to have good things happen in the Sault.

[Madmax]

My idea would to build a science north type facility in the sault and call it "The Great Lakes Science Facility" and have things that would blow away what science north has. Believe it or not thousands of people visit science north every year and if we could build a better facility to harvest tourists we as a city would rake in the big bucks instead of sudbury.

I also have another idea in which would have us build a Shipwreck museum for the great lakes .... the only good one from here is about 2 1/2 hours away in michigan.

[Return of Too Many Daves]

No offence Craig, but don't you think this town may have had enough of self-publicity hounds with big ideas that never come to fruition. The Borealis guy was bad enough. Personally I think it is time the local government took charge and did something positive with the waterfront.

[Madmax]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Return of Too Many Daves</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No offence Craig, but don't you think this town may have had enough of self-publicity hounds with big ideas that never come to fruition. The Borealis guy was bad enough. Personally I think it is time the local government took charge and did something positive with the waterfront.</div></div>

The local government has done nothing positive in 20 years for the water front and they have had many years to do so. I think it is about time some venturous ideas start putting money into this town without the local officials even ploting any ideas themselves. Lets see roswell is the hopes of a sault tri polar landing place for certain industries of the world to fly on in and transport out, which this idea is not at all a growing expanding wealth for this town, but instead more of a headache to the people in which they live within it.

I almost forgot our great mayor in which he is tried so hard to serve caviar and champagne to many persons he went broke and asked for more money so he could fatten up the bellies of certain interested parties of the times.

Key thing he went broke spending our money, imagine if he was allowed to spend 20 million or so .... OUCH OUCH OUCH.

[Craig Huckerby]

No offence taken, as I don't think I fall into the category of a
"self-publicity hound with big ideas" I do have big ideas, no doubt about that, but my idea isn't about me, it's about what the Sault needs. If I can through the connections I have to move this idea forward, I will. You don't know if you don't try, right?

[kathy590]

Big ideas never come to life if nobody actually puts it out there. Thats why are waterfront has nothing now. What does it hurt to put it out there. It may or may never happen, but I can assure you nothing ever comes of anything if people are too afraid to put the idea out there. If people spent their energy doing something constructive instead of criticizing, imagine where we could be now?

[adigirl]

Very well said. I think Graig's idea is great. I don't see the complainers coming up with their ideas complete with a pic of their dreams.

[Madmax]

Hey hey adigirl ... it is Craig not Graig... /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

[JohnnyCash]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Craig Huckerby</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm tempted to pitch this concept to developers or the city. </div></div>

what developers are those? the same ones helping out with boresmellous

[JohnnyCash]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Return of Too Many Daves</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think MIB's main complaint may be that this is just a pipe dream. It's never going to happen. I'd like to make a swimming pool full of chocolate sauce and have playboy bunnies swimming in it, but it just isn't going to happen. Given that, how constructive is this thread? Where are we going with it? Just a thought. </div></div>

If you do this I will attend

[Barney Rubble]

1 - the Canadian dollar is not as it was 5 years ago or longer.i do not believe that tourism is on an upswing as the American dollar no longer has as much bang as it had

2 - gas prices are up everywhere - here & the US - promotes less traveling & therefore less tourism

3 - people don't make things for free. its gotta make money & be viable. will it?

4 - jobs ??? construction jobs to out of town companies is usually the case with non-local construction labour & iron workers...service industry jobs in the end at or close to minimum wages. Oh boy, that'll bring me home!!! (sorry for the sarcasm).

[mags]

An indoor water park is a marvellous idea. The retail portion could be beneficial too. However having a snowpark is ludicrous! It doesn't matter if there is a ski hill or bum slides. The amount of energy required for refrigeration to keep it cool enough to make and maintain the snow is ridiculous. The city is trying to go greener as they should this would be backwards. The other portions sound good. Though some have been pitched before.

[adigirl]

Maybe an adventure theme instead of the indoor snow? Rock climbing and things like that?

[adigirl]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Return of Too Many Daves</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think MIB's main complaint may be that this is just a pipe dream. It's never going to happen. I'd like to make a swimming pool full of chocolate sauce and have playboy bunnies swimming in it, but it just isn't going to happen. Given that, how constructive is this thread? Where are we going with it? Just a thought. </div></div>

I am pretty sure the borealis project started with a pipedream too. So did Disney, hollywood, science north, etc. Someone has to be the dreamer and the pitcher. That is not always the same person who actually builds it. Craig can take his dream and pitch it to people who can make it a reality.

I just don't see that Borealis thing as something that is going to generate a lot of return visitors to the city. I think it is a poor idea. To be honest, I doubt we will ever see it come to compeletion. Not at this rate anyways. I'll be too old to enjoy it!!


I wonder what the other ideas were for this development and why they decided to go with this lame idea.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barney Rubble</div><div class="ubbcode-body">4 - jobs ??? construction jobs to out of town companies is usually the case with non-local construction labour & iron workers...(sorry for the sarcasm).

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In most cases locally Barney the General Contractor may be a large out of town company but they sub-contract to smaller local companies. For example, Bondfield construction had the contract for the Steelback centre, they subcontracted to local companies for the entire project. Same with the Wind Farm project - large out of town company but all local tradesmen.