Squeegee people on McNabb

[Intangible]

Did anyone see them yesterday at the intersection of McNabb and GNR? What do you think? What would you do if they came up to your car?

[Barney Rubble]

we don't even have them here and there is a million people here.

thoughts???

hmm..at least better than panhandling & doing nothing.

there is a brazillian jobs out here, yet i still see, buddy on the corner with a sign saying "money for food" or something like that. buddy is 30ish, looks in good health & i bet its more like "money for crack please" .

[adigirl]

I don't like it at all. I just drive away.

[Intangible]

They get you when you are stopped at a red light though.

[adigirl]

I don't like it at all. I decide when to get a car wash and where. I don't like services thrust on me without my request. It is one of those things that annoys the hell out of me. I hate people coming to my door selling religion too. It's one of my quirks. I serious just drive off.

[northern nomad]

i thought council voted them illegal ?

[Ultra54]

I can't stand them. Same ones that carry signs that they are hungry cuz they paid the rent and nothing is left. The sign should read, too lazy to work, please give me some money.

[GRUMPY]

True! Seems they are all healthy young people doing it.

[Luv to be on the GO]

Most of the ones I`ve seen lately have a
Dog with them ...If your so hungry & poor
how can you feed a dog ?
OR is this to make people
feel EXTRA sorry for them.

[tippikitty]

I have also notice the dog thing too. Strange. Poor dog.

[HDV]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Luv to be on the GO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most of the ones I`ve seen lately have a
Dog with them ...If your so hungry & poor
how can you feed a dog ?
OR is this to make people
feel EXTRA sorry for them. </div></div>

thats what i said, they live on the street yet they have a dog? like really now

[tippikitty]

I'd give them dog food.

[adigirl]

Actually it is not surprising that homeless people find companionship with homeless animals. They both get needs met.

[Larimar]

indeed, and if I were homeless I'd want the protection.
jeez, ppl here , the way they talk-they should be ashamed!
"ouu dunt touch my precious car!!-i might have to pay a buck!!"
gawd forbid anyone fall on to hard times where they have to live on the streets and get accused of being on drugs. you wouldn't know what the heck to do with yourselves.


My dad once met a homeless girl who had a dog-and my dad fed the dog -and the girl was very greatful..apparently she was living with grandparents and they died-she had nowhere else to go b.c she was an adult -well ppl she wasnt asking for money her sign asked for dog food. she was a great singer too! reminded us of jewel. people shouldn't judge. It's shallow. Jewl wasn't a bad person b.c she was homeless, was she?

[Larimar]

at least those squueegee ppl are trying to do some work-perhaps they should ask first, but when you're talking about your own survival you will do anything to try and earn that money. Don't be fooled guys-if you're homeless no job office will hire u. So stop saying they should get a job. You also need your what's that thing calleD? number? they can't get that without an address and such, they don't have a place to send the checks-they can't open a bank account if they have nothing...hmmm-it's really sad to see such narrow mindedness

[oneof3]

Poor dog? If I was homeless, I'd eat the stupid dog.

[stupefied]

I haven't seen them in the Soo but have in other places. Sometimes I give them a dollar, sometimes I just say thanks.

I don't know what their situation is but I'm glad I'm not in it.

[dancingqueen]

there are homeless shelters for these people to go to so they can collect Welfare, they can also shower and eat there. once they get on Welfare they can buy some decent clothes and go and get a job. do I feel sorry for them? no. Do I think they are bad people? no. I don't give money for nothing. those squegie kids, I would toss them a couple bucks maybe I didn't need it, but they are willing to earn their money. I know many of the homless people do not look at these alternatives because they are too proud (large percentage of the reasons behind homlesness) but if your too proud to accept money from the gov't, why arn't you too proud to take money from me?

[puppypower]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: *~TippiKitty~*</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have also notice the dog thing too. Strange. Poor dog. </div></div>

Hey that is a scam, hubby saw them at lake and trunk rd then about 2 hours later they walked by MY house with a cart from a&p full of groceries and 2 cases of beer. Poor doggie my B U T T . Good cam going and doggie is well trained i'd say. Was the girl full of piercings????

[Larimar]

no doubt their are scam artists everywhere-but that shouldn't take away from the fact there are real people who are just trying to get by. Going to a a homeless shelter-may buy you shower and clothing-but you cannot afford a place of residents and if you have no address you will fin dit fairly impossible to obtain a job in any area-unless you are being paid under the table.
If it were so easy to fin djobs and live a decent life Vancouver wouldn't have found it's children prostituting for money b.c they have no homes and foster care has too many kids.
Let's wake up and smell the roses..not everyone has it good.
It's very easy to assume things-I could assume a lot of nasty things about ppl here-and I DON'T. so why judge ppl living on the streets until you know their name and story. If you see they are scammers then don't associate with them-but if you cluster everyone together it's no better then any saying everyone on soonett hates dogs-b.c I saw a few that do..and that's not true..
anways.

[*Angel*]

im sorry but i do not give money to random ppl who come squeegee my window...I have had it done and I dont feel safe un rolling my window...get a real job...thats the way i look at it...
If i wanted my windows washed ill do it myself

[Larimar]

You are living on the streets-mayb eyour parents died and you are too old for foster care, maybe your parents abused u sexually and at 18 you decided u'd just run off to live a life of poverty-but not be touched..you sleep in homeless shelters-you get paid just enough to buy yourself a pair of socks, underwear, and a new sweater for the winter-but sweaters and jackets can cost so much these days so you spend mostly on food- you decide you want a job-the employers laugh at you-you have no social security, you have NO address to send a check to, you have no phone number to be called into work..you don't even have enough money to buy more then two suites...
you can A) wash cars and try working, b) ask for money while sitting on your bum or c) drown out your sorrows by spending what little cash you have on alcohol. or D) get into selling drugs to make cash-which invitably you start up on.

jeez..those dang squueeqee ppl-so useless-*rolls eyes*

[*Angel*]

See I personally dont feel safe...I mean im sorry but in this world you just dont know
When I was in Toronto I have given money to ppl on the streets along with food... But i mean these guys who do the squeegee's in the sault i know who they are...so ya...Im not gonna say ne more but i just wouldnt fall for it...not in this small town

[Tutones]

I'm not going to pay anyone for doing something that I did not ask them to do. Great. Sqeegee my window while I'm stopped at the red light - I get the same for free at my full serve gas station whenever I'm there. Why would I pay someone? I don't keep money in my car anyway - I travel with my purse in the trunk.

[Larimar]

If people know a person and know they are rebels, or cons they I could totally understand saying something like I know a few people who do it and I don't feel safe around those few. Yet many people are instead making the few a whole group.
Homeless doesn't =lazy, bad, or cons..
It's what I am seeing that's said on this board that shocks me so much-it's stereotyping.
Some of those homeless people are actually schizophrenic-good , honest people who all of a sudden obtained a brain disease and have no clue what's going on-who have families who don't know whatto do with them-and hospitals who try and putthem back into the mainstreem society-but some don't make it. I just feel before we talk like it's everyone-and act like we are so much more better then these ppl b.c we find it easyto get a job -we should be a little less judgemental and have a little more compassion. Not feeling safe is one thing- but people saying horrid things about them is another.

[adigirl]

It shouldn't surprise you from this board.

[*Angel*]

O i agree 100% Dreamspirit...Ppl who are homeless are there for a reason...we cannot judge them because we dont know the situation...My heart goes out to ppl who are ill and live on the streets...no person should be homeless...

[adigirl]

When my husband came here from Belgium we went to Toronto for a visit and t was the first time he had ever seen people without homes.

[dancingqueen]

Being in a homeless shelter gives you an address so that you can obtain a social insurance number as well as Health card and Welfare cheques ect... there are agencies out there that help people in this exact situation. True, there are people out there that have terrible stories about their lives, and some have medical conditions that prevent them from knowing of or finding these agencies And I guess saying I don't pitty homless people was a bad generalization, I do pitty these people, wether it be because their family is retarded and don't know how to help these people or because they have no family. The majority however, can join a homeless shelter so they have an address and get put on assistance. These are the kinds of circumstances Welfare was created for.

[The 6th Member Of AC/DC]

DQ you need a beer

[dancingqueen]

your telling me!
I'm bored and poor /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif not a good combination for me

[The 6th Member Of AC/DC]

DAMN U

[dancingqueen]

no kidding, it really, really sucks lol

[The 6th Member Of AC/DC]

meany

[dancingqueen]

lol

[Madmax]

There is always welfare to help such individuals that homeless and on the street, but there is those who have abused that system in one way or another and are now turned away from the one way ticket for a meal from any community.

Job connect is one of the worse places to look for work as they really don't help anyone as much as they boast that they do. They don;t help you look for work it is still up to you to try and find what it is you want to do. They will help in a resume and show the board where some jobs are listed and mnay maybe one is not qualifiwed for in which then your still stuck being a poor [censored] in a rich mans world.

[Tutones]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MadMax</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is always welfare to help such individuals that homeless and on the street, but there is those who have abused that system in one way or another and are now turned away from the one way ticket for a meal from any community.

Job connect is one of the worse places to look for work as they really don't help anyone as much as they boast that they do. They don;t help you look for work it is still up to you to try and find what it is you want to do. They will help in a resume and show the board where some jobs are listed and mnay maybe one is not qualifiwed for in which then your still stuck being a poor [censored] in a rich mans world.

</div></div>

What did you think they were supposed to do? Job + connect. They provide the connections to employers looking for employees. They also help build your resume, expand your skills by providing information and funding for courses that will make employees more marketable.

God helps those who help themselves. Replace God with 'Karma' or whatever you want but the principle is still the same.

I know many people who are now gainfully employed thanks to their services and guidance.

[Tutones]

But I digress... sorry. /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

[Larimar]

"With crisis centres overcrowded, people are ending up on the streets. In Toronto each night, some 50,00 homeless people seek shelter, but only 4,500 will find space for the night. Those unable to find a bed will turn to abandoned buildings, alleys and parks. The consequences of living on the streets are ultimately dying from exposure, illness, violence or suicide. Increasing numbers of people with HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, hepatitis, sexually transmitted diseases and communicable infections are being recorded in the homeless population. For instance, among Toronto's homeless, the TB infection rate is 38 percent.
Lack of a place to call home means that a psychological and emotional struggle for physical survival becomes one's principal goal. With no home address, it is difficult to get a permanent job or to access some social or health services. Homelessness divorces the individual from the patterns of day-to-day life. The longer a person remains homeless, the greater the likelihood of suffering serious and long-term mental and physical health problems."-source http://www.readersdigest.ca/mag/2001/01/homeless.html ?(2001)


Why not just get a job??-- http://www.christianity.ca/mission/canada/2006/02.000.html

I won't post the info as it gets a bit religious but I think their main point is very clear-you don't always have a spot to sleep-big cities get full up and you change locations to accomodate this-you have no education, no residents and you can't always get a spot to shower b.c there are so many others in line, you dont own a car, you can't drive b.c u can't get a liscence-or afford any of thatanyways-you cant always get to work on time..-what job will keep you?- Sure there are simple solutions to getting a job-but they are not permanent decisions and they don't deal with all the issues that need to be dealt with. they are very short term, and have no real foundation. welfare and a homless shelter will not help someone get back on their feet necessarily. so we need a lot more direction then this, and alot more thought Is my opinion-what about the elderly? the mentally ill and the disabled? what if they can't work? how do we get these ppl off the streets?

[Ultra54]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'd give them dog food. </div></div>
Screw that, I'd eat the dog before I begged for money on the street.

[daynzy]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ultra54</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'd give them dog food. </div></div>
Screw that, I'd eat the dog before I begged for money on the street. </div></div>

I'll bet that's so easy to say right now because you're not on the street.

[Larimar]

funny, i'm the opposit.
I'd beg for money on the street-before i'd kill my loyal friend , companion and pet.

[tippikitty]

Yeah I would agree with you there Dream.

[dancingqueen]

ditto, Dream, I was reffereing to the homless population here in the Sault. Yes in Bigger cities like Toronto it is a problem, and deffinatly a horse of a different color

[NoName]

I agree with all your points about why a homeless person can't find a job, especially in high unemployment areas. And I don't see anything wrong with squeegee kids, I just don't think they should go up and wash people's cars without being asked to. No one likes having things forced on them, and this includes services.

[Larimar]

I can agree to that. They should have respect and it should go both ways. I can see and have compassion for the reasons they don't ask-they'd never make any money-but it is proper to do so.

[1337]

Like tips for waitress'? I feel thats forced on me because its Etiquette, these waiters and waitress' sometimes depend on tips.

So whats wrong with a squeegee kid doing your window?

Just like a waitress, if you don't feel like tipping then don't.

If these kids are washing your windows, don't pay them if you don't want to.

[Larimar]

good point really.

[1337]

In all honesty they are trying to earn, for what ever needs.

You make the choice wether or not to pay. Either way you get a clean window out of it?

I carry around smile cards. Someone is down on their luck or just not happy i give them a card. Everyone looks at it and smiles. So atleast I know that PAID off!

[NoName]

I agree, tipping is supposed to be for service that goes beyond what they are getting paid for. So long as the squeegee kids realize that no one has to pay them if they do not want to, then I can live with squeegee kids washing windows without being asked.

[tired-n-cranky]

And when they are using very filthy water to "wash" the windows? I have had several who made the windows worse AFTER the so called wash then they were before.

And what about the ones who continue to do it anyways even though you say NOT to do it, then expect something anyways, like you are stealing from them.

Sorry but there is a reason wny squeegeeing is illegal....

[MelissaBrian]

i dont care ,they dont bother me ,i just drive away!