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Paully
09-10-2009, 11:56 PM
Things are really changing in the school board and of of them is the pick ups for small children. I have been hearing alot of people having the same issue that they have 5 and 6 year old children and they are forced to catch the bus by as much as two blocks away. Where is the safety in that,.. I see children huddled up on street corners and it just makes me wonder when one will get hit by a car. Many of these cases are on major high traffic streets and the School board is turning a blind eye to it. I myself am also in that situation and its not a fun feeling to wait for the bus on a busy street while people race by get to where they are going in a hurry,.. I even seen a truck go by with dew on the windows and a spot the size of a basket ball whipped off to see out of on the windsheild. What the heck are these people doig on the roads?!!

Anyways before some kid gets hit or killed, I am trying to make a difference here for the kids so I put together a petition for the school board to revise their bus system. The bus routes are not controlled by the bus company but by the school board, This has been mad quite clear to me.

I am not looking for opinions or discussions here but rather a signature that basically states you agree or don't sign it if you don't.

Thanks for those who do, It could make a difference in a kids life.

http://www.petitiononline.com/sault255/petition.html

icecapp
09-11-2009, 12:16 AM
I will gladly sign this, as we have been pulling our hair out for our childrens safty who are 6 and 8... having to walk a little distance on a busy street, that has always been door to door untill this yr. we are with the public board but for transportion they are joined together there office is behind st basils in the FR mills building...

bluekrissyspikes
09-11-2009, 12:29 AM
good for you for doing something about it. i signed (:

Anapeg
09-11-2009, 01:19 AM
Done!

b&aMom
09-11-2009, 06:12 AM
Huh. Just wait til winter, and that street corner they're supposed to wait on is a 6 foot snowbank. And you think it's dangerous now.

Hidden Treasure
09-11-2009, 07:15 AM
Done

KRP
09-11-2009, 07:25 AM
My father in law drives school bus and when they changed the stops to put them on the corners he complained over and over about it. They told him that if the stop isn't deemed 'safe' for him to stop then to find the nearest area to that corner to stop. He told them that he was just going to keep the same stops that he's been stopping at over the years on his routes instead of this new corner stop bit. There are a lot of drivers who are complaining about this new corner stop bit for safety reasons too.

verotik66
09-11-2009, 08:39 AM
I have more of an issue with our school, where no one is there to meet the kids when they get off the bus, my daughter in JK is escorted by a girl in grade 1..!!!

The education act specifically states someone has to meet the students at the bus. My wife drives to school to meet her when she gets off the bus..(heh she is in JK and wants to ride the bus to school)

Giggle Squirt
09-11-2009, 10:47 AM
my son no longer gets picked up infront of my house, but at the corner now. It is a busy street I am not to worried about him because I can see him from my living room window. In the winter last year they moved the bus stop from the corner to my driveway because the kids were standing in the middle of the road and they don't plow the sidewalk that the kids are supposed to be standing on. People just fly around the corner. Don't slow down or anything. Last year and the year before he stood on our front deck and the bus picked him up infront of our house.

Pleiades
09-11-2009, 12:50 PM
My child isn't forced to catch the bus. It is our choice whether to drive, walk or have our child catch the school bus. Other schools maybe different. However, I do remember reading a post last year sometime where a parent was reported to CAS because they were driving their kids to school who only lived a few houses away from the school. So my question is, what was the big hype all about when I see school buses dropping off kids who only live a couple of doors down from the school? Great point on your post and I will gladly sign the petition :msnomg_smile:

lucky seven
09-11-2009, 12:58 PM
signed! it's a good thing that you are trying to do. I just hope that you can get enough signatures to get it changed. I am going to send the link out to my address book. See if that can help.

CANDY_74
09-11-2009, 02:25 PM
Signed it :)

My kids along with a bunch of others have to catch the bus at the corner of Algoma & Bruce St. They're both busy streets and people don't seem to know how to drive the speed limit at all. It scares me to think of what winter will bring....

A*lil*Loopy
09-11-2009, 05:12 PM
I understand the frustration and had chosen to drive our son to school. It saved us a lot of worry and although it was a pain in the butt, we still did it. Signing it hopefully does some good. Unfortunately though, when do we stop worrying about how far our kids have to walk and their safety?

1337
09-11-2009, 05:18 PM
If I were you, i'd stand and wait for the bus with your kid. If you think it's that much of a danger, you should be standing with them until a change.


Edited:

I signed the petition. But in the petition is said "I guess my childs safety is none of their concerns". Keep in mind you let them go to the corner unattended.

Paully
09-11-2009, 06:02 PM
no, right now,.. one of us is always running late as we do go.

1337
09-11-2009, 06:04 PM
The board should at least have a crossing there.

SIMBA
09-11-2009, 07:26 PM
With all due respect Paully, be thankful your kids are bused to school! There are lots of kids who aren't.

cybolynx
09-11-2009, 09:17 PM
a block .. or 2 .. my son had to walk a KM when he was kicked off the bus for the year .. AND THEN I HAD THE SCHOOL THREATEN CAS on me cause he walked there ... needless to say CAS didnt have anything to say

or since your on your way to work why not drop her off ... from where you live to the school its only like an extra min out of your way ...

italiandomino
09-11-2009, 09:31 PM
For all those that are complaining.

Drive your kids to school, walk them into the school, and when school is done, walk them out.

no need to start a petition. Do the work yourself :)

Melanie Booker
09-12-2009, 07:47 AM
a parent was reported to CAS because they were driving their kids to school who only lived a few houses away from the school.

HUH? :confused2:
how in the world is that a CAS issue?? it's not an issue of any kind, who cares if the kids is driven or rides the bus.

The 6th Member Of AC/DC
09-12-2009, 09:41 AM
I have no idea how I survived walking home from school when I started kindergarten. Oh the humanity!!

lucky seven
09-12-2009, 09:45 AM
I agree Ice. We pay taxes that pays for the bus and the driver and we should be able to expect that our children will be safely brought to school and brought home from school. We live on a pretty quite street for the most part, but sometimes the delivery drivers drive like crazy people on our street. The school board a few years ago wanted my kids and the two girls at our stop to go and catch the bus on at the same corner as G's Lady's kids. For them to have to do that, they would have to cross Bruce St at a place where there is no street lights at 8am when traffic is really heavy, just to cut out one bus stop. The bus was going right by here anyways. I called the school board the first day of school and they changed it.

ID, there is a difference between complaining about things and being an advocate for your child.

icecapp
09-12-2009, 09:49 AM
For all those that are complaining.

Drive your kids to school, walk them into the school, and when school is done, walk them out.

no need to start a petition. Do the work yourself :)


U know what its easyer said then done, I have done this for the last 4 yrs as we have been building a new home for the last 4 yrs and I figurd if I drive the kids to the new house I might just aswell drive them to school, well this yr as we are moving nov1st finally into the new home.. I allowed them to take the bus

well, We pay city taxes and we pay tax period.. we are intitled to this!! we have owned this property for the last 15 yrs and have paid taxes on it prior to our home going there.

so my kids are more then intitled to the bus ride.. I am only upset as my kids are 4,6 and 8. and once the winter comes I am scared of one of my kids being hit after slipping on the ice that usually occurs as the road narrows. *ill add we are also in a RR district* ... If my kids were older like grade 5 and up Id have no problem with it.. the bus stops at the neighbours on the left of me and on the right(for a total of 3 kids between the two stops getting off) but will not stop at our house and the bus gos right by(where I will have 3 kids at one stop).. Makes no sense.. then it does not stop for almost 1 km down the road. and on its way back up as its a dead end.. used to stop across the street..


anyways... as for driving them.. ITS a pain in the ass you get all kinds is all Ill say

and for myself it would be 3 seperate trips to school a day.

icecapp
09-12-2009, 09:50 AM
sorry lucky I deleted it then put it back up..

Ill say it this way.. think of your neice and nephew walking home afterschool as they are down the street from us.. but closer to the dead end and we are three form the corner, but we are talking 20 acres of property from the corner.

Peety
09-12-2009, 09:51 AM
I would give your bus barns a call..

icecapp
09-12-2009, 09:53 AM
I would give your bus barns a call..

BEEN there DONE that X2, They will not appeal it till winter comes.

LMFAO then tells my other half he has no clue the up keep on buses and how much it is to run them..

SHE told that to the wrong person.

lucky seven
09-12-2009, 09:54 AM
My nephew would get into so much mischief...omg. I wondered how your post suddenly ended up below mine...lol.

My youngest son was removed from the bus in February last year. They called a few weeks later to let him back on, but by then I had realized what was going on with the bus. I continued to either walk him or drive him everyday for the rest of the year. He was only 8, so there was no way I would let him walk by himself. It takes about 25 minutes or so when I walked with him and he had to cross both Bruce St and McNabb. Atleast at McNabb there are lights, but do you know how many people drive right through the light when it is red by the senior's center? Not safe at all.

Peety
09-12-2009, 09:55 AM
BEEN there DONE that X2, They will not appeal it till winter comes.

LMFAO then tells my other half he has no clue the up keep on buses and how much it is to run them..

SHE told that to the wrong person.

They are stopping right next door?

icecapp
09-12-2009, 09:57 AM
They are stopping right next door?

yuppers on both side of me.. Drops off my neice and nephew then passes our house and drops the neighbour (1 child)

But they pick up all 3 in the am at our drive way. Neice and nephew at theres and neighbour at hers. 3 seperate stops, 6 kids total.

Peety
09-12-2009, 10:00 AM
yuppers on both side of me.. Drops off my neice and nephew then passes our house and drops the neighbour (1 child)

But they pick up all 3 in the am at our drive way.

That is strange..Maybe you better tell the head man to come for a bus ride.
That is crazy the bus only stops once...Good thing the neighbour house is close.

icecapp
09-12-2009, 10:03 AM
That is strange..Maybe you better tell the head man to come for a bus ride.
That is crazy the bus only stops once...Goodthing the neighbour house is close.

Close and family, But we are trying to teach the kids thats there yard and this is ours.. so I walk over every day after school and wait for the bus.. and walk them home on the shoulder of the road.

cause come winter in 1 snow fall we can get 1 foot of snow.. my little guy is only 2.5 feet tall.. so to walk across the front lawns is not feesable.. and we thought about making a path with snow blower but them we have to go over the sump pump hoses and cannot drive the frost down cause wed be up **** creek with out the paddle if that froze up.. half way between house and road.

bluekrissyspikes
09-12-2009, 11:42 AM
my step son's not even allowed on the bus. and i don't drive. it's a pretty long walk to his school. i'd much rather walk him to the end of the block to catch the bus but apparently special needs kids aren't allowed to ride the bus to school. still, the bus stops need to be safe and the school board should change their policy. what does it save them for the bus to not stop as it drives by?

bluekrissyspikes
09-12-2009, 12:01 PM
it's because he's hyper and loud and has a hard time listening. so they think he'd be a danger to the drivers ability to drive. when i was little those kids just had to sit in the front where the driver can look after them. i guess now they don't want to deal with that so the kids have to find their own way to school. it was also the schoolboards decision not the bus company. the bus company agreed to pick him up and the schoolboard said no. i say he'll be missing a lot of school come winter cause i'm not walking it in the freezing wind and trying to drag him behind me. especially when i know the sidewalks won't be done properly.

Giggle Squirt
09-12-2009, 01:03 PM
My mom said to talk to the school board about having a cab pick up your son and take them to school, at no cost to you. It was done for a person in my class when i was in school (along time ago) and they might do that for your son. I know it is for the catholc board, not sure if the adsb will do the same.

Peety
09-12-2009, 01:15 PM
it's because he's hyper and loud and has a hard time listening. so they think he'd be a danger to the drivers ability to drive. when i was little those kids just had to sit in the front where the driver can look after them. i guess now they don't want to deal with that so the kids have to find their own way to school. it was also the schoolboards decision not the bus company. the bus company agreed to pick him up and the schoolboard said no. i say he'll be missing a lot of school come winter cause i'm not walking it in the freezing wind and trying to drag him behind me. especially when i know the sidewalks won't be done properly.

Could you ride the bus with him and walk home?

bluekrissyspikes
09-12-2009, 03:24 PM
those are both good ideas to look into. i know something needs to get figured out before winter. for now, i don't really mind but it is a bit of a pain.

Tutones
09-12-2009, 07:06 PM
Bluekrissyspikes, your son should have automatically been put into the system to be picked up by cab and transported to school. He is entitled to the same rights as any other child in the school board. If he would be bused to school normally and the board says he can't go on the bus it is THEIR responsibility to supply alternative transportation, not yours.

Xzavia
09-12-2009, 09:45 PM
Close and family, But we are trying to teach the kids thats there yard and this is ours.. so I walk over every day after school and wait for the bus.. and walk them home on the shoulder of the road.

cause come winter in 1 snow fall we can get 1 foot of snow.. my little guy is only 2.5 feet tall.. so to walk across the front lawns is not feesable.. and we thought about making a path with snow blower but them we have to go over the sump pump hoses and cannot drive the frost down cause wed be up **** creek with out the paddle if that froze up.. half way between house and road.

Hubby said he could still snowblow a path if you wanted to save them walking on the road. Won't freeze up because of something to do with the way he put the hose in with an air valve or something.

italiandomino
09-12-2009, 09:57 PM
I agree Ice. We pay taxes that pays for the bus and the driver and we should be able to expect that our children will be safely brought to school and brought home from school. We live on a pretty quite street for the most part, but sometimes the delivery drivers drive like crazy people on our street. The school board a few years ago wanted my kids and the two girls at our stop to go and catch the bus on at the same corner as G's Lady's kids. For them to have to do that, they would have to cross Bruce St at a place where there is no street lights at 8am when traffic is really heavy, just to cut out one bus stop. The bus was going right by here anyways. I called the school board the first day of school and they changed it.

ID, there is a difference between complaining about things and being an advocate for your child.

i walked to school when i started kindergarden .. it was 30 minute walk there and back .. no school bus's. I walked to highschool, 20 minutes there and back .. no school bus's.

if your saying our tax's are going to drive kids to school so parents can save their gas .. then make the kids walk. My kids wont be taking no bus to school, they will walk. Just like her mommy and daddy did.

funny thing .. last night i was watching George Lopez on HBO canada .. he even talked about this kinda stuff, we are all about pampering the kids, give them this and that so they wont get in trouble, i have no idea how old you are, but when i was a kid, i was outside playing everyday, haning out with my friends having fun, not like the kids now that sit in front of a tv playing video games all day and have no idea how to socialize with anyone.

We wonder why there are so many freaks out there. They were kept locked up in their homes all day because mom and dad wouldnt let them out and play.

There is more Mental illness now there there was 30 years ago. Think about that.

italiandomino
09-12-2009, 09:59 PM
U know what its easyer said then done, I have done this for the last 4 yrs as we have been building a new home for the last 4 yrs and I figurd if I drive the kids to the new house I might just aswell drive them to school, well this yr as we are moving nov1st finally into the new home.. I allowed them to take the bus

well, We pay city taxes and we pay tax period.. we are intitled to this!! we have owned this property for the last 15 yrs and have paid taxes on it prior to our home going there.

so my kids are more then intitled to the bus ride.. I am only upset as my kids are 4,6 and 8. and once the winter comes I am scared of one of my kids being hit after slipping on the ice that usually occurs as the road narrows. *ill add we are also in a RR district* ... If my kids were older like grade 5 and up Id have no problem with it.. the bus stops at the neighbours on the left of me and on the right(for a total of 3 kids between the two stops getting off) but will not stop at our house and the bus gos right by(where I will have 3 kids at one stop).. Makes no sense.. then it does not stop for almost 1 km down the road. and on its way back up as its a dead end.. used to stop across the street..


anyways... as for driving them.. ITS a pain in the ass you get all kinds is all Ill say

and for myself it would be 3 seperate trips to school a day.

so when you were a kid , did you slip on the ice and get hit by a car ?? what are the chances of that happening.

italiandomino
09-12-2009, 10:01 PM
it's because he's hyper and loud and has a hard time listening. so they think he'd be a danger to the drivers ability to drive. when i was little those kids just had to sit in the front where the driver can look after them. i guess now they don't want to deal with that so the kids have to find their own way to school. it was also the schoolboards decision not the bus company. the bus company agreed to pick him up and the schoolboard said no. i say he'll be missing a lot of school come winter cause i'm not walking it in the freezing wind and trying to drag him behind me. especially when i know the sidewalks won't be done properly.

ummm ... arent a bus full of kids talking loud ?? you put 30 kids on a bus talking and having fun, that would be pretty loud, to say one kid is not allowed because he is loud.

sorry I dont buy it.

bluekrissyspikes
09-12-2009, 10:16 PM
you don't need to buy it. if you want to meet him be my guest. he screams. he doesn't talk loud. it's more of an ear peircing squeel actually that is usually accompanied by a lot of bouncing and boping around, kicking and flopping his head around. that's when he's excited in a happy way. if he gets scared excited because of the the noise on the bus or upset because the someone tells him what to do he will screech like chicks in horror films do. over and over. then if you are lucky he will smash his head on whatever is near him. he also tends to yell NO I DON"T at anyone who asks him nicely to do something. yes the buses are full of loud kids but not full of kids like this kid, like i said he has special needs. i'm sure though, that if he is given a few chances to get used to the bus he will be able to copy the other kids and sit down somewhat calmly on the way to school.

italiandomino
09-12-2009, 10:27 PM
I am to busy working to meet someone that talks loud. I get a headache pretty quick

lucky seven
09-12-2009, 10:33 PM
Most bus drivers won't put up with loud kids and they will just write up a bus report. Three bus reports and the child is removed from the bus for the rest of the school year. You're probably better to try to get the child cabbed to school. There are a couple of kids cabbed at our school.

When I was a kid ID, I lived down the street from my school, so yes, I walked. But there were also street lights at the busy streets. Now, those street lights are gone. And when we were kids, drivers actually paid attention for kids. Not like today. They run red lights and drive like maniacs all the time. But I am sure that you wouldn't be one of those drivers. I am sure that you always do the speed limit and obey all the laws.

If you want to drive your kids to school everyday, great for you. But for some parents, that's just not possible due to things like jobs and stuff. Most jobs don't let you go in just after 9 and leave right around 3 so that you can drive your children back and forth to school. That's why I pay my taxes. So that they can safely ride the bus and I don't have to worry about it.

icecapp
09-12-2009, 10:56 PM
so when you were a kid , did you slip on the ice and get hit by a car ?? what are the chances of that happening.

Never hit by a car but actually broke a coller bone.