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GRUMPY
10-20-2009, 10:52 PM
what would you recommend to but for around a 32 inch and up?

H.E. Pennypacker
10-21-2009, 12:14 PM
don't just go by the specs... go in and actually look at the tv, there are visible differences in most tv pictures, choose what ones look the best, go online, compare and read reviews. Amazon is a great place to read reviews, since there are usually lots and they are in depth. If going to a place that sells on commission don't let them push you around. Go in on a mission and stand your ground. Don't bother with buying the expensive cables they will offer you.. they are usually marked up around 300%. For your cables, if you want any, go to www.monoprice.com

We bought a samsung series 6, 40" television earlier in the year since our older tv died. We couldn't be happy with the picture quality while watching HD and SD programming. Keep in mind though that if you don't already have an HD box from Shaw (if that's who you're with) you may want to factor in the extra cost of upgrading to an HD capable box, or an even nicer HDPVR.

GRUMPY
10-21-2009, 04:02 PM
You are an idiot (j/k) just as a lot of us are because I went to Future Shop to see what they had. The says man asked what I was looking for so I told him something from 32 to 40 inches but it had to have an excellent picture to which he replied that it didn't make a difference what brand I bought as they were all the same and the only thing that affected the picture quality was if you were with Bell or Shaw and then he mentioned that I'd be much better off with a digital box that they had on special for $99 however they didn't come with that good of a set of cables but for around $50 I could buy a great set. I then started to check out other sets and asked about the power consumption of the various sets and he then informed me that plasmas were the worst for power consumption then lcds but within each type they were all the same. That is when I left as I had reached my threshold of BS. Now that I have exposed myself to all that sleaze I am ready to go out and shop. I guess sadly that there are those who will swallow that crap. Thanks for the info though, most of the time I go with which looks best as I don't care for whys and how comes just the end product.

NewCasa
10-21-2009, 04:16 PM
Hey Grump. Call me an idiot and I'll slap you!

But till you do - I bought a 32" TV this year. Did lots of research on it, including heading up to Future Shop to check them out. I came up with a Sharp Aquos. I also felt that the Samsungs and Sony Bravias were good. To a great extent, the salesman was right. I believe there's only two manufacturers for the actual LCD panels themselves unless that's changed.

I saw the Aquos side by side with all the other brands and the picture looked just a tad sharper. I got mine at Sears, but that's because it was on sale there at the time I made my decision.

Hope it helps.

H.E. Pennypacker
10-21-2009, 05:00 PM
hey grumps sounds like they used all the tactics on you, haha. glad you didn't fall for it. especially the cables..

GRUMPY
10-21-2009, 06:22 PM
its like you said do the research just to find out if there are some brands to avoid then just go with your own preferences. I bet if you line up 5 tvs and ask five people to pick the best one it would be evenly split amongst them.

Mimi
10-22-2009, 10:38 AM
I have a Samsung and really like it. I was told if the LCD's brand starts with an S, it is usually good. I think the LG's are good too. My moms 37 inch LG cost the same as most 32 inch ones.
When you look at them make sure you check out the picture when you are at an angle to the side. Some of the screens, are just a foggy haze unless you are facing them dead on.

NewCasa
10-22-2009, 10:44 AM
its like you said do the research just to find out if there are some brands to avoid then just go with your own preferences. I bet if you line up 5 tvs and ask five people to pick the best one it would be evenly split amongst them.

Yup - you're absolutely right. As a practical test just go into future shop and tell the guys you don't need help thanks. Go to where the 32" TV's are and you can compare them side by side. Best brands are going to be Sony, Sharp, Samsung, Panasonic and Toshiba. Now, check who will repair them. I know for a fact that Toshibas are repaired in town (Soo Video). Panasonics too (Muntz). Not sure about the rest of them. That'd say something important to me. But what says more is, given the side by side comparison, which one do you like the best? That's the one to go with! Forget all the stats and specs - just make sure all the TV's you check out are set to their best settings and decide from there.

H.E. Pennypacker
10-22-2009, 01:57 PM
i believe samsung is repaired by mtv sales and service on wellington.

BAILEYDOG
10-22-2009, 03:12 PM
the salesman was right on one thing, Plasma are bigger energy hogs than LCD'S and the new LED ones are the best, but not any worse that the Tube TV that everyone owns.

GRUMPY
10-22-2009, 06:26 PM
Toshibas are fixed at Muntz also.

Shawn
10-25-2009, 11:52 PM
Basically it comes down to what type of viewing you are going to do. Are you watching sports... if yes then plasma or a high end 240Hz is best. Are you watching in a dark room if yes plasma again is best, if its a bright room, then lcd is the better. Another thing too is if you are sitting far away you may be able to get away with a 720P tv instead of a 1080P and save some money, if you are close or don't really care about a few extra $ then go the 1080P. Basically you won't be able to tell the difference from say about 12 feet back.

Another thing about the digital boxes to consider is Shaw has less than about 30 HD channels in the Sault. I think about 15 or 20 actual channels and the rest are things like ppv and sports... no where near the 50 their tv ad's claim. On top of this if you want any channels other than say the abc, fox... type channels its about another $10 on top of your bill for channels you already get in SD.
Shaw direct on the other hand does a way better job, giving you access to the HD channels when you purchase the SD channels. They are broadcast in 1080I I believe, but I hear a lot of bad stuff about their HD boxes, and apparently there is a firmware update coming out to fix that, and new boxes in the spring.
Bell on the other hand only has 720P currently, and everyone I have heard from says sports looks way better on Shaw than bell, but everything else looks fine... But then again bell seems to have the better boxes...

On the cable side, yes don't get suckered into the expensive ones because i have heard from employees what they pay for those monster cables at future shop and its quite a bit more than 50% off for them, so that tells you what the markup is. I have bought a lot of HDMI cables from monoprice and they work well. I usually spend the extra couple of $ and get the higher end cables with thicker wire, like say 22 or 24AWG instead of the smaller 28AWG. Also make sure you get at least 1.3b as that's the latest right now, but 1.4 will be coming soon.

If you want some tv reviews check out http://www.pcmag.com/category2/0,2806,1638887,00.asp and http://revision3.com/hdnation

tired-n-cranky
10-26-2009, 08:39 AM
In my living room I have a 42" Samsung plasma tv. In my bedroom I have a 32" LG lcd.

Personally, I prefer the picture on the plasma as it is brighter, and sharper.

Either way, make sure to stick with the big name companies as previously mentioned. Don't fall for the cheap prices of the store brand crap.

I also purchase my cables from monoprice.com, the choice is easy to see there. Under $10 shipping included for a 6 foot hdmi cable, versus $50+ in stores.

I went with a buddy of mine to help him choose a 42" tv a couple weeks ago. I knew what the sales guy would do with the hdmi cable pitch, so I brough one with me that I paid a total of $4, shipping included for. The sales guys last words of the sale were " oh yes, if you want to connect your PS3 to the tv, you will want one of these hdmi cables, they are $69."

That's when I said it was ok, I brought one for him that cost me $4.00 shipping included. The sales guy jaw dropped to the floor.

gizmoguy
10-26-2009, 10:08 AM
I'm surprised no-body mentioned the refresh rate. Try to look for something that has a 5ms (mili-second) or better refresh rate. 5 ms is still the industry standard now, but the top of the line telvisions will have a 3 ms. You will still find a lot of less expensive telvisions that have 6 ms. The cheapies or non-brand name televisions often have 7 or even 8 ms.

With a 5ms, most motion on your picture should appear fairly fluid. If you are watching a an extremely fast action, you may, in extremely rare instances, notice some digitizing, even with a 5 ms.

6 ms to 8ms televisions are terrible for watching fast moving video.

Upper Decker
10-26-2009, 12:18 PM
Ive got a 46" LG plasma that i love dearly.The picture on it is top notch and when bluray is run on it you get the feeling that your watching movies in front of a live stage of actors. I have also seen a toshiba 42" LCD with just as good of a picture. Guess the option would be price and preferance.

Killswitch
10-26-2009, 09:56 PM
I bought an Insignia 32" LCD back in May and I have Shaw HD. No complaints here! The picture is great. It's our main TV in the living room but we don't sit too far away from it either. They only advertise that it'll handle 720p but it will do 1080i also. Why they don't mention that is beyond me. The TV was only $500 plus taxes. Great value in my opinion.

403_forbidden
10-29-2009, 03:30 PM
Yup - you're absolutely right. As a practical test just go into future shop and tell the guys you don't need help thanks. Go to where the 32" TV's are and you can compare them side by side. Best brands are going to be Sony, Sharp, Samsung, Panasonic and Toshiba. Now, check who will repair them. I know for a fact that Toshibas are repaired in town (Soo Video). Panasonics too (Muntz). Not sure about the rest of them. That'd say something important to me. But what says more is, given the side by side comparison, which one do you like the best? That's the one to go with! Forget all the stats and specs - just make sure all the TV's you check out are set to their best settings and decide from there.

To add to the list Sharp is repaired by John's TV repair....if it is worth repairing flat screen TVs....most of the time it makes more sense to buy a new TV....

403_forbidden
10-29-2009, 03:37 PM
In my living room I have a 42" Samsung plasma tv. In my bedroom I have a 32" LG lcd.

Personally, I prefer the picture on the plasma as it is brighter, and sharper.

Either way, make sure to stick with the big name companies as previously mentioned. Don't fall for the cheap prices of the store brand crap.

I also purchase my cables from monoprice.com, the choice is easy to see there. Under $10 shipping included for a 6 foot hdmi cable, versus $50+ in stores.

I went with a buddy of mine to help him choose a 42" tv a couple weeks ago. I knew what the sales guy would do with the hdmi cable pitch, so I brough one with me that I paid a total of $4, shipping included for. The sales guys last words of the sale were " oh yes, if you want to connect your PS3 to the tv, you will want one of these hdmi cables, they are $69."

That's when I said it was ok, I brought one for him that cost me $4.00 shipping included. The sales guy jaw dropped to the floor.

I am surprised the sales guy didn't say "yea but those $4 cables won't last as long as the $69 cables"....I don't know how many arguements I got into with Futurshop staff in The home theatre section pushing $150 nitrogen filled gold plated super dupper Monster cables with a life time warranty saying you absolutely need these cable for HD experience....I usually end up walking away saying my $4 HDMI cable from monoprice works just as well (or better)......yea...they sure try to make you drink the kool-aid in those box stores....and why not...the mark up on Monster cables is crazy......The best was a 20 foot Monster Cat5 patch cable for $75.......maybe your packets travel faster down that patch cable??......LOLO...more kool-aid anyone??

GRUMPY
10-29-2009, 10:57 PM
I love it when they try to tell you that you are mistaken and that you really need these cables.

Shawn
10-30-2009, 04:13 AM
I love it when they try to tell you that you are mistaken and that you really need these cables.

That's because they don't understand what a digital signal is and how it works... now if it was analog on the other hand I would be buying those $100 cables... They are just told what to say and never really research what they are selling because they know if they follow company training they will make money.

http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/2008/02/20/packing_the_deal/

Here is the video from market place http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/8752/marketplace/packing_the_deal.wmv

Hans
11-04-2009, 11:10 PM
I was there today and saw a 499$ set of monster cables. I almost was going to ask one of the sales guys if these were made with gold cores instead of copper...

Something you should also check with any type of tv is the viewing angle. Stand in front of it, then walk away to one side while you keep watching the picture. You will notice the colors will start to shift and edges get blurry.

I also noticed certain types have more noise in the picture than others. It's not always the most expensive one that looks the best either.

TheManInBlack
11-05-2009, 11:51 AM
You are an idiot (j/k) just as a lot of us are because I went to Future Shop to see what they had. The says man asked what I was looking for so I told him something from 32 to 40 inches but it had to have an excellent picture to which he replied that it didn't make a difference what brand I bought as they were all the same and the only thing that affected the picture quality was if you were with Bell or Shaw and then he mentioned that I'd be much better off with a digital box that they had on special for $99 however they didn't come with that good of a set of cables but for around $50 I could buy a great set. I then started to check out other sets and asked about the power consumption of the various sets and he then informed me that plasmas were the worst for power consumption then lcds but within each type they were all the same. That is when I left as I had reached my threshold of BS. Now that I have exposed myself to all that sleaze I am ready to go out and shop. I guess sadly that there are those who will swallow that crap. Thanks for the info though, most of the time I go with which looks best as I don't care for whys and how comes just the end product.

That man was an idiot. Samsung are leading the pack right now. I'm a sony guy and I have to admit Samsung is much better this year. LED is you best picture but $$$$$$$$$

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0770HDS0010121233&catid=

This tv is amazing, my Gram got the 37" model and the shows on her HD box look brilliant

TheManInBlack
11-05-2009, 11:53 AM
I love it when they try to tell you that you are mistaken and that you really need these cables.

cables do matter its like having a fast car with cheap plugs

Upper Decker
11-05-2009, 02:14 PM
i beg to differ, my 20 dollar HDMI cable, and my 15 dollar optical cable produce identical results to those of my idiot friend who spend 135 on an hdmi cable and 90 on an optical cable. Now there are a lot of cheap ones that use very brittle and thin copper lines. But to say that the high end cables are better just because of a name and price is a bold statement.

H.E. Pennypacker
11-05-2009, 06:27 PM
cables do matter its like having a fast car with cheap plugs

haha...where are your sources to back that up? futureshop sales associate?

GRUMPY
11-05-2009, 09:08 PM
cables do matter its like having a fast car with cheap plugs

links, links, show me the links.


I know its what you told your customers but too bad you never looked into it yourself.

TheManInBlack
11-05-2009, 09:52 PM
links, links, show me the links.


I know its what you told your customers but too bad you never looked into it yourself.

We had it set up in the store showing. We had the tv's on picture in picture. One hooked up with a 10 bucks cable the other with a monster. same dvd player for both sides and there was a noticable difference. It's just like speaker cable. Hook one side up with a 18g and the other with an 8 guage you will hear a difference. Any expert website you go too that doesn't have a vested interest in selling will tell you the same thing.

What you have to take into consideration is the source. if your running an antenna the cables not going to matter cause the amount of signal is weak and the cheap cord can handle the traffic. But you have an HD source there is alot more information traveling through the cord. think of it like a road, a four lane street can handle alot more traffic than a 2 lane road.

TheManInBlack
11-05-2009, 09:54 PM
What you have to make sure of though when you buy a cable is that you getting what you are paying for. I buy all my cable from this company

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/index.htm?source=overture

very inexpensive and they make you cable to order

Hans
11-07-2009, 01:54 PM
Bigger wire is not always better.
The skin effect, which increases the resistance and signal loss increases when the frequency increases. For signal wiring small wire consisting of many strands is the best way to go. The higher the frequency the bigger the skin effect.

Next time ask them if they use Litz braided cable. I am assured they will not have a clue what it is.

Shawn
11-07-2009, 02:54 PM
We had it set up in the store showing. We had the tv's on picture in picture. One hooked up with a 10 bucks cable the other with a monster. same dvd player for both sides and there was a noticable difference. It's just like speaker cable. Hook one side up with a 18g and the other with an 8 guage you will hear a difference. Any expert website you go too that doesn't have a vested interest in selling will tell you the same thing.

What you have to take into consideration is the source. if your running an antenna the cables not going to matter cause the amount of signal is weak and the cheap cord can handle the traffic. But you have an HD source there is alot more information traveling through the cord. think of it like a road, a four lane street can handle alot more traffic than a 2 lane road.

That sounds like futureshop BS to me... If the source is analog I would have to say you are correct, better cable matters... Digital is nothing more than 1 and 0's... it either works or it doesn't. Colours will not be distorted with a digital signal... either you get a picture or you don't.

In your "test" you admit to using a dvd player, which has analog outputs I am assuming (no HDMI) which would be why you saw a difference. Put 2 digital sources to the test and you won't see any difference. Those monster cable booths you see setup sometimes do this to deceive customers... they use hdmi for their cable which is digital... and then use an analog cable for the competitors cable which is why you see a difference.

Now when you talk about a 2 lane vs 4 lane... I will agree you have to size your cable correctly... you are not going to use a 30 gauge wire for something that requires a 20 gauge wire... but as long as you use the minimum size recommended by the manufacture you should not have a problem with a digital signal. I myself usually use a couple of gauge bigger when buying longer cables to help with any interference issues.

Hans
11-08-2009, 02:52 PM
I am wondering why Monster does not sell 10/100/1000 network cables.
I mean, it would be so much faster with the Monster version!

TheManInBlack
11-08-2009, 06:54 PM
That sounds like futureshop BS to me... If the source is analog I would have to say you are correct, better cable matters... Digital is nothing more than 1 and 0's... it either works or it doesn't. Colours will not be distorted with a digital signal... either you get a picture or you don't.

In your "test" you admit to using a dvd player, which has analog outputs I am assuming (no HDMI) which would be why you saw a difference. Put 2 digital sources to the test and you won't see any difference. Those monster cable booths you see setup sometimes do this to deceive customers... they use hdmi for their cable which is digital... and then use an analog cable for the competitors cable which is why you see a difference.

Now when you talk about a 2 lane vs 4 lane... I will agree you have to size your cable correctly... you are not going to use a 30 gauge wire for something that requires a 20 gauge wire... but as long as you use the minimum size recommended by the manufacture you should not have a problem with a digital signal. I myself usually use a couple of gauge bigger when buying longer cables to help with any interference issues.


LOL I'll stick with my bluejeans cables. You can keep buying your cables at zellers.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/buying-guides/do-expensive-home-audiovideo-cables-matter/

Shawn
11-08-2009, 09:25 PM
LOL I'll stick with my bluejeans cables. You can keep buying your cables at zellers.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/buying-guides/do-expensive-home-audiovideo-cables-matter/

I never said bluejeans cables were bad, and no I don't buy from zellers, but the site you posted backs up most of what I said if you read the site you posted carefully.

He confirms what I said about the cable quality helping out with analog sources, they confirm the fact that there is a difference when comparing a digital to analog signal... Hell they even confirmed where I was saying a higher gauge when running longer distances to keep from getting interference...

The one thing that he does not explain is that with a digital signal its all 1's and 0's, its not like analog where if the wave gets distorted then you loose sound or miss out on things like he describes. Digital with either recognize the wave as a 1 or a 0... If you are loosing information then yes you will loose picture, but you will not just distort the colours or quality of the picture simply do to the quality of the cable. The reds, blues and greens will look the same as the source material on the destination with a digital signal, it does not matter if its a $20 cable or a $200 cable provided you are using the correct gauge recommended by the manufacture. External factors may play into it like interference, so if you want to keep from loosing signal then get a better shielded cable... but your colours are not going to look any better, nor will the picture just by buying a more expensive cable on a digital connection.

TheManInBlack
11-08-2009, 11:35 PM
The difference between high-quality and midrange video cables can be a bit harder to discern. Using lower-quality cables can result in more video noise and edge damage, detail and color loss, and a general lack of definition.



that quote from the article says it all

Hans
11-09-2009, 09:40 AM
It's no different then a network cable. 1 and 0, they either get there or they don't. I don't use high quality cables for my network connection and my internet has no noise and edge damage, detail and color loss, and a general lack of definition.

GRUMPY
11-09-2009, 11:20 AM
interesting reading but I doubt it or anything else will change people's views on this.


http://consumerist.com/353938/monster-cables-monster-ripoff-80-markups
http://consumerist.com/358006/monster-responds-to-monster-cables-monster-ripoff

TheManInBlack
11-09-2009, 11:43 AM
I know Grumpy. the sky's always blue unless your colour blind

TheManInBlack
11-09-2009, 11:44 AM
interesting reading but I doubt it or anything else will change people's views on this.


http://consumerist.com/353938/monster-cables-monster-ripoff-80-markups
http://consumerist.com/358006/monster-responds-to-monster-cables-monster-ripoff

Yeah definatly stay away from monster cable they are a ripoff. The monsters they sell for 90 bucks are worth about 20

GRUMPY
11-09-2009, 11:48 AM
I know Grumpy. the sky's always blue unless your colour blind

or like some too stupid to open their eyes

TheManInBlack
11-09-2009, 12:06 PM
or like some too stupid to open their eyes

I'll tell you I wont spend 100 bucks on a video cable but I wont stick a 20 buck cable on my 2000 buck tv. I've got alot of my cables from EBAY too. The speaker cable I have on my 2 channel audio set up were $500 retail and I got them for $90 and they are nice pure copper 6 guage

icecapp
11-13-2009, 12:45 AM
I Have a ? in regards to these cables, I just bought a dvd player that converts the dvd to this 1080p stuff.

But to connect it to the t.v I need this HDMI cable, but when I go onto ebay, it tells me that all these HDMI cables are for ps3's Is it just not a standard cable?

Or does it just mean it will work with ps3s aswell?

My t.v. is a 1080p...

p.s. to my understanding this cable makes for a clearer pic aswell as better sound?

I have it hooked up with rca's right now but I also connect the ps2 with rcas.. and I just hate to take take one out for the other all the time as I only have one set of imput jacks for rca's the other colors are red blue and green?

Hans
11-15-2009, 05:46 PM
HDMI cables are used to transport uncompressed high definition video and audio over a single cable.
All equipment that claims to be meet HDMI standards has to be tested by an independent lab to obtain that qualification.

Here's a list of all currently HDMI certified cables who meet or exceed the HDMI standards and therefore will transport the HDMI information perfectly.

http://www.simplaylabs.com/consumers/allprodbycat.aspx?id=4&cname=Cables

Example :

http://www.amazon.com/Dynex-DX-AV002-Video-audio-cable/dp/B00132DG46

and

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WX9E0M/ref=asc_df_B000WX9E0M963437?smid=A3QGEC09A9X4OH&tag=dealt630-20&linkCode=asn&creative=380341&creativeASIN=B000WX9E0M

Meet the same standards and the testing procedure is explained here :

http://www.simplaylabs.com/manufacturers/simplayhd_testing.aspx

1 cable is 3$, the other one 200$ and a bit longer.

Asparas
11-17-2009, 01:10 PM
"Here's the thing: digital cables, by definition, have no signal loss. A cable is either digital or it's not. As long as its built to HDMI standards, the only difference between a "fancy" digital cable and a no-name one is the price."

This quote taken from that Monster Ripoff link beats your vague quote from whatever link you provided.

Whatever quote you provided, as I read the article, I knew it was talking about S-Video and Component Cables which in that case, yes you do need to buy more expensive ones to attain better quality because those are analog signals.

b&aMom
11-18-2009, 09:38 AM
So, did you get a tv yet, GRUMPY?

We bought a 55" Samsung LCD LED back in August and love it. A big price, but the quality of picture in HD (Shaw) is fantastic. And then...there's BluRay. OMG, watching movies and tv series in BluRay is mind blowing.

Also, something to think about. In the last few years of researching these new tvs, all I've heard is don't go big if you have to sit close. I was big on that, as I know someone who bought, then returned it because it was too big for the room. Well, we bought big, for the same room size. We sit about 8 feet from a 55" ('cause I gave in to my husband in the store), and it's wonderful. I could easily go for an even bigger tv. OMG...I'm turning into a guy!! LOL

Seriously, though, we have the 240 Hz, 1080, 8000 Series.

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/tv-video/televisions/led-tv/UN55B8000XFXZA/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=spec

The plasmas in the store couldn't even touch this baby.

Oh, and Monoprice has wall mounts, too, not just cables. ; )

TheManInBlack
11-18-2009, 11:10 AM
So, did you get a tv yet, GRUMPY?

We bought a 55" Samsung LCD LED back in August and love it. A big price, but the quality of picture in HD (Shaw) is fantastic. And then...there's BluRay. OMG, watching movies and tv series in BluRay is mind blowing.

Also, something to think about. In the last few years of researching these new tvs, all I've heard is don't go big if you have to sit close. I was big on that, as I know someone who bought, then returned it because it was too big for the room. Well, we bought big, for the same room size. We sit about 8 feet from a 55" ('cause I gave in to my husband in the store), and it's wonderful. I could easily go for an even bigger tv. OMG...I'm turning into a guy!! LOL

Seriously, though, we have the 240 Hz, 1080, 8000 Series.

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/tv-video/televisions/led-tv/UN55B8000XFXZA/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=spec

The plasmas in the store couldn't even touch this baby.

Oh, and Monoprice has wall mounts, too, not just cables. ; )


nice tv good pick

TheManInBlack
11-18-2009, 11:12 AM
I Have a ? in regards to these cables, I just bought a dvd player that converts the dvd to this 1080p stuff.

But to connect it to the t.v I need this HDMI cable, but when I go onto ebay, it tells me that all these HDMI cables are for ps3's Is it just not a standard cable?

Or does it just mean it will work with ps3s aswell?

My t.v. is a 1080p...

p.s. to my understanding this cable makes for a clearer pic aswell as better sound?

I have it hooked up with rca's right now but I also connect the ps2 with rcas.. and I just hate to take take one out for the other all the time as I only have one set of imput jacks for rca's the other colors are red blue and green?

I got my HDMI cables when I worked retail for 15 bucks each and they retailed 89.99. Just make sure the hdmi is not the lead one

GRUMPY
11-18-2009, 04:23 PM
So, did you get a tv yet, GRUMPY?

We bought a 55" Samsung LCD LED back in August and love it. A big price, but the quality of picture in HD (Shaw) is fantastic. And then...there's BluRay. OMG, watching movies and tv series in BluRay is mind blowing.

Also, something to think about. In the last few years of researching these new tvs, all I've heard is don't go big if you have to sit close. I was big on that, as I know someone who bought, then returned it because it was too big for the room. Well, we bought big, for the same room size. We sit about 8 feet from a 55" ('cause I gave in to my husband in the store), and it's wonderful. I could easily go for an even bigger tv. OMG...I'm turning into a guy!! LOL

Seriously, though, we have the 240 Hz, 1080, 8000 Series.

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/tv-video/televisions/led-tv/UN55B8000XFXZA/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=spec

The plasmas in the store couldn't even touch this baby.

Oh, and Monoprice has wall mounts, too, not just cables. ; )


actually for under $100 I was able to get the old one fixed.

403_forbidden
11-23-2009, 10:23 PM
I am wondering why Monster does not sell 10/100/1000 network cables.
I mean, it would be so much faster with the Monster version!

Actually, they do.....the FS sales person said they would give me even faster results than "generic" cables....a 6 foot cable was $40....what a joke.....I wonder how many they sucker into buying those cables...

403_forbidden
11-23-2009, 10:28 PM
So, did you get a tv yet, GRUMPY?

We bought a 55" Samsung LCD LED back in August and love it. A big price, but the quality of picture in HD (Shaw) is fantastic. And then...there's BluRay. OMG, watching movies and tv series in BluRay is mind blowing.

Also, something to think about. In the last few years of researching these new tvs, all I've heard is don't go big if you have to sit close. I was big on that, as I know someone who bought, then returned it because it was too big for the room. Well, we bought big, for the same room size. We sit about 8 feet from a 55" ('cause I gave in to my husband in the store), and it's wonderful. I could easily go for an even bigger tv. OMG...I'm turning into a guy!! LOL

Seriously, though, we have the 240 Hz, 1080, 8000 Series.

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/tv-video/televisions/led-tv/UN55B8000XFXZA/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=spec

The plasmas in the store couldn't even touch this baby.

Oh, and Monoprice has wall mounts, too, not just cables. ; )

Actually, no LCD can beat a Plasma for colour accuracy, contrast, black levels, and motion blurr......this is why LCD manufacuturers have to come up with 240Hz rates etc....plasma has 0 motion blurr, so they don't need to do this. LCD is very close, but not up to par with plasma.....the new Panasonics are simply amazing....

b&aMom
12-02-2009, 12:30 PM
In store, I found the 8000 series had much better picture quality than the plasma. Personal preference?? I haven't noticed any motion blur at all on our LCD, whether it's movies, hockey, soccer, football, etc. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Only time quality issue comes up is when it's not HD or BluRay.

Barry Morris
01-17-2010, 06:11 PM
I love it when they try to tell you that you are mistaken and that you really need these cables.

And, as a sound contractor, I love it when some guy thinks that old zip cord from his table lamp works just fine. :) :) :)

chemicall
03-11-2010, 02:46 PM
For anyone that doesn't know, goto the Queen st pawnshop, they sell optical cords(for sound) for about 3-5 bucks. AND YES I swapped my friends 'monster' optical cord for my cheapie pawnshop optical cord. There was no sound difference, it's all digital signals, you either get the signal or you don't - no cord in the universe can make 0's and 1's 'better' or 'clearer'. Anyone that says different must have worked at future shop....

IMHO Steer clear of salesmen, if you don't have a good grasp on electronics, then I say it's a good idea to bring someone along with you that knows their stuff, because the salesmen only sees one thing....you paying MORE $.

GRUMPY
03-12-2010, 01:39 AM
Anyone that says different must have worked at future shop....

or the Brick

TheManInBlack
03-16-2010, 04:25 PM
or the Brick

Keep believing that. People also didn't believe different kinds of gas didn't make a difference. I guess audiophiles with $ 25000 stereos and thousands of dollars in cable have no idea what they are talking about.

cybolynx
05-13-2010, 05:03 PM
when i went shopping for my tv it needed to meet a few criterias ...
1) it needed to scale SD (standard definition) nicely ...
2) i needed 1080p for my pc as i wanted to double up as a second monitor ...
3) it also needed a wide viewing angle ...
4) the backlight bleeding needed to be very minimal ...
5) lots of calibration settings ... since most tvs are off in color (set up for a vivid picture an illusion that its got great color)
6) reputable company for quality ...

i setteld for a toshiba regza 46" ... i choose 46" due to the fact i sit 13" away from my screen ... and 46" was as larg as my bugget allowed at the time .. would have had a bigger budget if my old tv didnt happen to die on me ... it was old and it was its time ... but it held a beautiful picture till it just died ..

cybolynx
05-13-2010, 05:40 PM
Actually, no LCD can beat a Plasma for colour accuracy, contrast, black levels, and motion blurr......this is why LCD manufacuturers have to come up with 240Hz rates etc....plasma has 0 motion blurr, so they don't need to do this. LCD is very close, but not up to par with plasma.....the new Panasonics are simply amazing....

the 250hs 120hz is a selling scheme ... its how the pixels in lcd turn on or off that matter the most ... lcd does not work on refreshrate ... you can feed an lcd with 20hz refreshrate and not notice a dam thing ... the funny thing as well is .. CABLE, SAT, DVD, BLURAY all feed your tv a 60hz refreshrate to start with ... so you input 60hz how do you get 120 of 240 ? if the original is only 60 ? ... what they are really doing is adding frames inbetween the original 24fps show .. so what you will see is frame doubeling ... wich brings in a whole other slu of issues ... like frame jutter or frame skip .. eg when a person is jumping over a coutch and they are in a constant motion but wile in mid jump you may notice a skip ... or a jarring like movement .. same thing with a foot ball in the air it may look like its jumping accross the screen ... motion blur is nateral ... what isnt nateral is and is often precieved as motion blur is ghosting ... when the pixles cant change color fast enough from frame to frame ...
swing your hand infront of your eyes ...you dont see just 1 hand you see a blur .. now if your eyes were to follow that object the back ground is blured ....

being a gammer on pc ... try to play a game @ 24fps vs 60fps ... 60fps is smooth motion .. where as 24 is skippy like motion ... like flipping threw one of those cartoon books ... the faster you flip (faster frames) the smoother the motion ...