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"UN report: Canadians use marijuana four times more than people in any other developed country. Some 16.8 per cent of Canadians between 15 and 64 used pot in 2006.
By comparison, the figure is 12.6 per cent in the U.S., 8.7 per cent in Britain and 0.1 per cent in Japan."
LINK (http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Columnists/Cockburn_Lyn/2007/07/19/4351465.html)
How did they arrive to those numbers?
adigirl
07-19-2007, 03:03 PM
United Nations 2007 World Drug Report
Far out man. Must be why we are so laid back.
adigirl
07-19-2007, 03:15 PM
OPIATES
Annual prevalence of abuse as percentage of the population aged
15-64 (unless otherwise indicated)
USA, 2000 0.6
Belgium,1997 0.4
Canada, 2005 0.3
COCAINE
Annual prevalence of abuse as percentage of the population aged
15-64 (unless otherwise indicated)
USA, 2005 2.8
Canada, 2004 2.3
Belgium, 2004 0.9
CANNABIS
Annual prevalence of abuse as percentage of the population aged
15-64 (unless otherwise indicated)
Canada, 2004 16.8
USA, 2005 12.6
Belgium, (15-65), 2004 5.0
AMPHETAMINES
Annual prevalence of abuse as percentage of the population aged
15-64 (unless otherwise indicated)
USA, 2005 1.8
Canada, 2004 0.8
Belgium*, 2001 0.8
ECSTASY
Annual prevalence of abuse as percentage of the population aged
15-64 (unless otherwise indicated)
Canada, 2004 1.1
Belgium*, 2003 1.1
USA, 2004 1.0
darryl smith
07-19-2007, 03:34 PM
All of that 16.8 must be working in Ottawa! They have to be smoking some serious pot in order to come up with some of the tree hugging crap they spout lately!
I have a hard time believing the Netherlands are not the top rated users of Cannabis and various other drugs. Maybe they should go over there to crunch some numbers.
Boondock
07-19-2007, 09:22 PM
The other drugs out there can go to hell especially alcohol. I don't even take asprin or tylenol. Weed is great tho /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif
The Berean
07-19-2007, 09:36 PM
Power is the biggest drug in the USA.
KDawg
07-20-2007, 08:51 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> "UN report: Canadians use marijuana four times more than people in any other developed country. Some 16.8 per cent of Canadians between 15 and 64 used pot in 2006.
By comparison, the figure is 12.6 per cent in the U.S., 8.7 per cent in Britain and 0.1 per cent in Japan."
LINK (http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Columnists/Cockburn_Lyn/2007/07/19/4351465.html) </div></div>
Here's the real tragedy with drugs in North America:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> In Washington state, one out of every five children in the foster care system is on potent mood-altering medications. Yet the state has no safeguards in place regulating their use to protect the children who swallow the potentially toxic pills.
A 4-year-old girl was rushed to intensive care with an erratic heartbeat after her foster parents accidentally doubled her daily dose of anti-depressants - a dose already far above the maximum recommended for her age and weight. The foster parents said neither their doctor nor social worker had warned them of the hazards of the drug, amitriptyline. </div></div>
Washington state pushing drugs on kids (http://www.liftingtheveil.org/foster13.htm)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Her investigation shows that 60% of children in the Texas foster care system are being drugged with powerful psychotropic drugs that have not been approved for children. Yet, "Children as young as 3 are receiving powerful, mind-altering drugs."
She suspects foster children are being given psychiatric drugs "so they're more docile, or so doctors and drug companies can make a buck."
A mother reported her son's experience with the antipsychotic drug, Zyprexa: "He put on a tremendous amount of weight, 85 pounds to be exact," she said, adding that as doctors continued to increase his medications starting at age 5, he experienced troubles in school and with the law and was hospitalized repeatedly." </div></div>
Texas pushing drugs on kids (http://www.ahrp.org/infomail/04/11/13.php)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">According to government documents obtained by The Globe and Mail under Ontario's Freedom of Information Act, 47 per cent of the Crown wards the children in permanent CAS care at five randomly picked agencies were prescribed psychotropic drugs last year to treat depression, attention deficit disorder, anxiety and other mental-health problems. And, the wards are diagnosed and medicated far more often than are children in the general population.
In this day and age, particularly in North America, there's a rush for quick fixes. And so a lot of kids, especially those that don't have parents, will get placed on medication in order to keep them under control.
And with close to half of Crown wards on psychotropic medication, their numbers are more than triple the rate of drug prescriptions for psychiatric problems among children in general. </div></div>
Ontario pushing drugs on kids (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070609.wdrugs09/BNStory/National/home)
Amitriptyline, Zyprexa and lets not forget Ritalin. These are POWERFUL, psychotropic (mind-altering) drugs being prescribed to kids!
Weed? Please.
adigirl
07-20-2007, 10:20 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KDawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Amitriptyline, Zyprexa and lets not forget Ritalin. These are POWERFUL, psychotropic (mind-altering) drugs being prescribed to kids!
Weed? Please. </div></div>
What is it with you and Ritalin? When prescribed to children who are true ADHD kids, it is very beneficial combined with behavior therapy. Not all kids on it, need it. That I will give you. Some kids are not ADHD and have other issues but have been misdiagnosed with ADD or ADHD. And if ritalin is prescribed to treat depression, get another doctor. A child on ritalin should never be in a zombie like state on the drug. If they are the parent is upping the dose without permission or they have a quack for a doctor and need to look for a new one.
In addition, ritalin should never be prescribed as a first course of treatment for ADD or ADHD. Behavior therapy should always be tried first. If after a period of time that therapy is not working in assiting the youth to function better, medical interventions can be looked at in combinaton with behavior therapy but should always be prescribed in low doses increasing small amounts until you see an improvement in fuction to a maximum dose for weight and age. If a child does not improve, it is a good indication that you are looking at something other than ADD or ADHD and the kid was misdiagnosed. Easily done when these symptoms are common with other disorders.
KDawg
07-20-2007, 10:38 AM
I don't disagree with what you say, but did you read the links?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Menon recounts her findings on the use of drugs to control foster children: "Many teenagers are on psychotropic medications. Almost every child who comes into the system ends up on some kind of psychotropic medication--we're talking about four- and five-year-old kids who are on Prozac and Ritalin..."
"Give me a break--it's to quiet them down," she adds. "Generally, psychotropic medications take the place of nurturing."
But the use of medications is not limited to group care facilities and the Children's Reception Center. Menon explains:
Caseworkers prefer that the child is medicated. It helps the foster care parents, who may not be qualified to deal with a disruptive child. Staff often have no idea what a drug does to the child. They dispense it like aspirin. There is absolutely no one to monitor kids on multiple meds.
What this all amounts to is a systematic assault on children who've already been removed from home, medicated, coded, misdiagnosed, therapized...[5]
Prentis Caudill was a ward of the state. Both he and his sister endured the difficulties of placement in residential group homes and psychiatric facilities. "All you have to do is act up and they give you drugs," says Prentis. "The drugs were nice because they'd calm you down or put you to sleep for days."</div></div>
You're talking theoretically about how to properly handle Ritalin, and I'm linking to articles stating what IS happening.
adigirl
07-20-2007, 01:26 PM
my mistake...sorry
Sophie's_Mommy
07-20-2007, 02:43 PM
who cares about weed, u have people on coke, opiates, alcohol, and they are violent and steal for their next fix, weed, they don't even wanna get off the couch.lol..
adigirl
07-20-2007, 03:53 PM
Parrot likes to announce half the story. That is why I like to look up the stats myself. The harder drugs are led by the States with the exception of Ecstasy which seems to be a big problem in the three countries of interest on this board lately.
Boondock
07-20-2007, 07:15 PM
least this uptight board hasn't started talking smack about a little weed yet
GirlNextDoor
07-20-2007, 08:15 PM
16.8%. thats a pretty big number. i gotta find out where a huge populus of them are. than i wont have any trouble finding it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shawn's Girl</div><div class="ubbcode-body">who cares about weed, u have people on coke, opiates, alcohol, and they are violent and steal for their next fix, weed, they don't even wanna get off the couch.lol.. </div></div>
/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/lol.gif /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wavey.gif I love holding a mirror up to Canada...they don't like what they see sometimes.
Hey, at least you lead the world in something...in POTHEADS!!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Parrot likes to announce half the story </div></div>
TRANSLATION: "Speedy has proven Hans so wrong on so much lately, I have to find something to attack him on."
Proper translation : Speedy is running out of words, so he has to find something to talk about.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hans</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Proper translation : Speedy is running out of words, so he has to find something to talk about. </div></div>
No, when that happens I would just post stories about the supreme court of a country I know practically nothing about.
(sound familiar?) /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
I live next to your country. However, to think I know nothing about it is the answer I would expect from a simple person like yourself.
adigirl
07-24-2007, 07:24 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/lol.gif /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wavey.gif I love holding a mirror up to Canada...they don't like what they see sometimes.
Hey, at least you lead the world in something...in POTHEADS!!!! </div></div>
Cannabis leaders of the world
Papua New Guinea, 1995 29.5
Micronesia Fed.State., 1995 29.1
Nice try though.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hans</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I live next to your country. However, to think I know nothing about it is the answer I would expect from a simple person like yourself. </div></div>
I love it when you get mad...it's so...so...Belgian /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
adigirl
07-25-2007, 12:02 PM
I love it when you ignore when it has been pointed out when you are wrong. Makes living in that fantasy world of yours easier.
What has been pointed out? Nothing, as usual.
adigirl
07-25-2007, 01:25 PM
I think the cuckoo's nest is calling you back.
I rather a country full of pot, where there is no real addiction and no Pot related deaths. (Cept for the oweing of money).
But you can crack and bash Canada or even make snyde remarks on how we are the leader in pot.
But take a look at the drugs in America that make pot look like Oregano for cooking.
adigirl
07-25-2007, 07:23 PM
We aren't the pot leader of the world. That is where the Parrot will not admit he made an error.
Parrot will not admit that the US is worse than Canada in anything. Yet I'll admit that Canada has faults and needs to improve in areas. I'll admit our neighbors the Americans do too.
Guys and girls, read the article...it's there in black and white. You guys, BY FAR, are the biggest potheads in the world.
Can I help it if denial is an inborn trait for you???
adigirl
07-27-2007, 12:45 PM
You are quoting an article that is wrong. I went to the web site (United Nations 2007 World Drug Report) and there are other countries worse. *shakes head* Sometimes you are impossible.
Papua New Guinea, 1995 29.5
Micronesia Fed.State., 1995 29.1
I'm not saying we don't have a drug problem. I am saying we aren't the worse for it in the WORLD
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Papua New Guinea, 1995 29.5
Micronesia Fed.State., 1995 29.1 </div></div>
1995...see that in your post? 1995. Keep that number in your head now...
Shake your head, indeed!
Do you know that 2006 comes AFTER 1995?
Sure, New Guinea and Micronesia led the way in 1995...but it is CANADA that leads the way in unproductive potheads in 2007!!!
Stand up and take a bow /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
Who's says potheads are unproductive?
Well, I guess if you consider sitting around on unemployment insurance all day with your hand stuck in a bag of Doritos 'productive', then you have a point.
xXx Duffy xXx
07-28-2007, 12:06 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hans</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How did they arrive to those numbers? </div></div>
they musta been high /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
adigirl
07-28-2007, 12:45 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Papua New Guinea, 1995 29.5
Micronesia Fed.State., 1995 29.1 </div></div>
1995...see that in your post? 1995. Keep that number in your head now...
Shake your head, indeed!
Do you know that 2006 comes AFTER 1995?
Sure, New Guinea and Micronesia led the way in 1995...but it is CANADA that leads the way in unproductive potheads in 2007!!!
Stand up and take a bow /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif </div></div>
send me the url because the article YOU quoted used numbers from THAT report.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, I guess if you consider sitting around on unemployment insurance all day with your hand stuck in a bag of Doritos 'productive', then you have a point. </div></div>
You must have gone to stereotyping 101 course over the past 2 weeks. Looks like you got A+ marks, congratulations.
smokey_canada
07-28-2007, 09:02 PM
speedy no kidding you are the biggest joke I've seen anyone can make up any numbers you want it's not that hard to fudge stuff to make it look like what you want. I was a pothead for 20yrs went to school own a house worked everyday of my life never did I sit around eating chips waiting for a my welly chq. to show up, and let me tell ya I have lots of friends that smoke dope and a hellva a lot of closet smokers out there that are very productive people and goto work everyday and in some very interesting places in this town. Quess what they never asked me or anyone of my friends so how would they no who is really productive what by hanging outside the meth clinic,gee maybe they can hang out by the lcbo and come what with another brilliant conclusion.
adigirl
07-29-2007, 08:35 AM
Did you make up your nickname after reading a lot of parrots posts? lol Love the nick.
I smoked weed in highschool. I got good grades, worked part time and was involved in pro-social activities. However, there were a couple of people I knew who smoked weed and that was their life. If I looked at how many of us were smokers, the productive people far outweighed the losers. As a matter of fact, almost all of them had very high marks and great attendance.
Sharing this doesn't mean a thing though. It's only my experience. Research, not a news article either, is what we need to look at.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: adigirl</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Papua New Guinea, 1995 29.5
Micronesia Fed.State., 1995 29.1 </div></div>
1995...see that in your post? 1995. Keep that number in your head now...
Shake your head, indeed!
Do you know that 2006 comes AFTER 1995?
Sure, New Guinea and Micronesia led the way in 1995...but it is CANADA that leads the way in unproductive potheads in 2007!!!
Stand up and take a bow /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif </div></div>
send me the url because the article YOU quoted used numbers from THAT report. </div></div>
Denial is an amazing thing to watch.
adigirl
07-29-2007, 02:30 PM
You seem to have perfected it nicely (being in denial that is).
Pothead /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
dancingqueen
07-30-2007, 02:44 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> "UN report: Canadians use marijuana four times more than people in any other developed country. Some 16.8 per cent of Canadians between 15 and 64 used pot in 2006.
By comparison, the figure is 12.6 per cent in the U.S., 8.7 per cent in Britain and 0.1 per cent in Japan."
LINK (http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Columnists/Cockburn_Lyn/2007/07/19/4351465.html) </div></div>
Speedy, all this link prooves is that canadian ADMIT to smoking more pot than these other places, considering it has been decrimanalized here as opposed to in the States, I think more people are willing to admit doing it. These surveys can never be completely accurate because people are not always honest. It is also possible that due to the decrimanalization of pot that we do smoke more of it, that does not make you a sit at home welly bum. so don't be so judgmental. maybe we do smoke more pot than the US, hey, does that make us any worse of a country???
I think there would be alot more to it than that *rolls eyes*
dancingqueen
07-30-2007, 02:49 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Boondock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The other drugs out there can go to hell especially alcohol. I don't even take asprin or tylenol. Weed is great tho /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif </div></div>
you don't take asprin or Tylonol, but weed is great...
I can't even begin to comprehend your logic...
http://erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_health.shtml
now, don't get me wrong, I am all for the legalization of pot, I smoke a bit of it here and there, but to say that asprin or tylonol (ok, well Tylonol I can do without since it is bad for the liver) is worse is just... well, dumb
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> maybe we do smoke more pot than the US, hey, does that make us any worse of a country??? </div></div>
Can you show me where I said that?
Didn't think so /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif
I'm just saying you're all a bunch of potheads!! Stand up and take a bow!
dancingqueen
07-31-2007, 01:56 AM
/ bow
Huggy85
08-12-2007, 01:52 PM
/ bow
Canada is the envy of much of the world. Our economy is flying while that of the U.S. is floundering. When rated for satisfaction of it's citizens by the United Nations, Canada is at or near the top all the time. So where is the problem with a little weed? Biggest problem with pot these days is that it isn't easier to find!
Just my cannabis mellowed opinion of course.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Canada is the envy of much of the world. </div></div>
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Also, the U.S. economy is dancing circles around the moribound Canadian economy.
GDP Purchasing Power
Canada: 1.178 trillion
USA: 13.13 trillion
GDP Real Growth Rate
Canada: 2.7% (2006)
USA: 3.2% (2006)
GDP Per Capita
Canada: $35,600
USA: $44,000
Unemployment Rate
Canada: 6.4%
USA: 4.8%
Public Debt
Canada: 65.4% of GDP
USA: 64.7% of GDP
Industrial Production Growth Rate
Canada: 0.7%
USA: 4.2%
Oil Production
Canada: 3.135 million barrels per day
USA: 7.61 million barrels per day
World Fact Book Online
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