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GoldDogs
04-23-2010, 08:59 PM
I want everything in my backyard dead! Grass, weeds, flowers! I just want dirt.

I want to start from scratch. I've got rocks and random bulbs all over the place. Those prickly things! My yard is disgusting (plant wise) and.. I hate it.

Are there any home-made grass/weed killers that work? Or does anyone have any store-bought recommedations.

Peety
04-23-2010, 09:22 PM
What do you want to do after you get to dirt?
re seed?

NewCasa
04-23-2010, 09:26 PM
Anything you put out that kills the grass you've got there will kill the new grass as well if you use chemicals. The simplest way to kill pretty much everything off is to get the cheapest panelling you can find (used is great) in 4 x 8 sheets and lay them over the entire yard for a season. Old blankets will work just the same and so will old carpet. Anything that won't let light through. Most plants can't grow without sunlight. After one season, take off all the sheets and rototill the entire yard, then level it. You can just rototill it without the sheets, but you'll still get tons of weeds after - your choice. Then, when you plant gardens, etc. remember to put down a layer of landscaping cloth, cut holes in it and plant your plants through it.

GRUMPY
04-23-2010, 11:21 PM
newspapers work good

GoldDogs
04-24-2010, 09:41 AM
So, a whole season meaning from now until ... October? I don't know much about planting.

After its is all gone I want to put down new dirt and then re-seed. For some reason there are chunks of concrete in random place all over. I want them all covered up.

Does vinegar work or will that also kill new stuff?

kitca
04-25-2010, 12:06 AM
well, if you dont want to wait a whole season you could cover the whole area with at least 8-10 layers of newspaper, put some soil over top of that and seed it. the soil really is a key in growing. start with good stuff. i like lemeux's (sp?) complete soil compost mix. it is much cheaper if you have a truck, you pay almost more than the soil itself to have it delivered. anyway. wet down your newspapers, add the soil then seed. grass grows best in spring and fall when it is cooler. but, beware, the dandilions will be seeding soon enough. you may even want to put sod down instead. i dont think sod will be ready for a little while though.

newcasa is right about using old carpeting but with cardboard or newspapers you dont have to remove them, they will just degrade. make sure to really overlap them if you do...any cracks and the weeds/grass will find its way through.

oh yes, vinegar will kill new stuff.

Evil Monkey
04-25-2010, 08:46 AM
Bleach will kill everything too. Not sure how long it stays in the soil for though?

icecapp
04-25-2010, 04:39 PM
I called trenbergs, on friday for sod, it is 2.25 per roll which covers 9 sqaure feet I think she said. but they are now taking orders and starting to cut in late may she said...

We ourselves are thinking of looking into the green spray stuff.. last flyer I got it seemed pretty cheap,

Mined you we just litterly covered over our yard on friday.. as it was grass growing through rocks, when we started the house 4 yrs ago.. it just seemed to grow and grow.. we actually had a nice lawn, but the house needed more fill, and we had the loam here to do it.. We haved covered over about 1 acre total, right now untill we do the back yard to...

so for us to walk around and seed it might be more benificial aswell.. then we will have to roll it to pack it in.

GOOD LUCK.

kitca
04-26-2010, 05:16 PM
oh gaud, dont use bleach, youll kill everything like the worms and bugs and good bacteria!

NewCasa
04-26-2010, 08:47 PM
Vinegar in the soil will throw off the PH. That will kill everything. Not the best idea around I think. If all you want to do is plant a new lawn, go over the lawn and take out all the big pieces of concrete or whatever, put down new topsoil to about 3" and either lay new sod or get it hydroseeded. No real need to kill the old stuff - laying new topsoil and sod over it will kill off pretty much anything just like old carpet would.

chemicall
04-26-2010, 09:48 PM
Borrow, or rent a Roto-tiller and go to town on the yard. it'll end up dirt and you'll be laying down all new grass seed the next day.

kitca
04-26-2010, 10:20 PM
youll still have the weeds and weed seeds there.

chemicall
04-27-2010, 06:55 AM
sheesh, de-weed it with your hands and some hand-tools first then. Or would that be too much like work?

GoldDogs
04-28-2010, 04:01 PM
sheesh, de-weed it with your hands and some hand-tools first then. Or would that be too much like work?

Uh, okay. Well, I am pretty sure Kitca was making sure I knew the seeds would still be there considering I've already stated I have no idea what I'm doing.

Where do you get a roto-tiller from?

kitca
04-28-2010, 11:12 PM
well chemicall, have you ever tried to weed 20X40 of strait weeds? sometimes drastic measures are needed. kinda sounds like you were being rude.

NewCasa
04-28-2010, 11:34 PM
Napalm. Works like a charm ;)

FuZzY
04-30-2010, 09:31 PM
i'm doing the same thing, i started with tarps the other day, but i like the carpet idea better, anyone have old carpet laying around they are getting rid of? and Yorkie, if our lawns are ready at the same time we can split on a weekend rental at home depot, unless my uncle still has one. and he used to have a roller that you pull behind the 4 wheeler to pack it, i cant remeber how big your backyard is

kitca
05-02-2010, 08:13 PM
call around to the flooring stores for old carpetting. beware though, go for the canvas backing. the rubber is yucky and the plastic on plastic back shreds into long strings.

Peety
05-02-2010, 08:37 PM
I know I have worked the land and used plastic to kill the weed. then raked tho the spot and tilled it again raked. Do that a couple times and you'd have a pretty good spot for a garden.

FuZzY
05-06-2010, 11:13 AM
I know I have worked the land and used plastic to kill the weed. then raked tho the spot and tilled it again raked. Do that a couple times and you'd have a pretty good spot for a garden.

does clear plastic work? i have a roll of vapour barrier that i could use. if not i am gunna call the flooring places on my next days off

kitca
05-06-2010, 12:50 PM
another thing that you can do is put lots of layers of overlapping newspapers down. wet them down really good and put soil over top of the papers. then plant you grass seed right over top of that. as long as you have 10-12-14 layers of newspaper - well overlapped- it will kill the grass & weeds underneath. then it will decompose naturally and the paper, underlying weeds,grass etc become organic matter that is good for your lawn.

T_wolfe
05-20-2010, 08:20 AM
Vinager will kill just about everything....... I use it between patio stones and the cracks in the drive way..... some weeds take longer to die using vinager..... but it does work.. like someone said.... it changes the PH balance in the soil. Newspapers and carpeting do work best.... NO on the bleach!!! unless your lawn is full of grubs then go for it because it's the only way to get rid of those darn things unless you wanna pay huge bucks for treatments from a company which even then doesn't kill them all.

For those looking for a great fertalizer..... and I know this will make some people cry LOL.... If you have one of those 4L jugs you attatch to your hose ( the ones that use to have weed and feed or just feed)... pour one botttle of beer in it..... 1 cup of dish soap that has a moisterizing adgent in it and top it up with water..... attach your hose and spray away like you would normally... the hops used in the beer will act as a fertilizer and the soap will help control most insects and believe it or not.... soften the soil so your grass roots can get spread and become stronger. Wait a few days and then set out your sprinkler ...... and your grass will become thick and green!! Try it.... it works... and if it doesn't at least you will have a clean and happy lawn!!! LOL

kitca
05-20-2010, 05:28 PM
i dont know. but im thinking maybe not. with the black or carpet it smothers the grass/weeds and they get no light to photosynthesize, but with clear the light would still get through.