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Jack Butler
08-19-2010, 08:10 AM
Some of the potential rules being tried out at the NHL research camp this week:

1. Use red mesh instead of white on nets to create better target for shooters.

2. No-touch icing.

3. Overtime: 3 minutes of 4-on-4, followed by 3-on-3, then 2-on-2, then shootout.

4. On delayed penalty, offending team must not only touch the puck, but control it and get it out of their zone.

5. Wider blue lines to increase size of offensive zone.

6. Increase goaltender crease by three inches all around for more goalie protection.

7. Shorten depth of net by four inches to increase area between net and boards.

8. After a faceoff violation, opposition centre may choose faceoff opponent.

9. Second referee located off playing surface.

10. Face off variation, where puck is placed on dot with faceoff commencing after official's whistle.

11. “Hybrid” icing where linesman determines who would reach the puck first when first man gets to face off dot, thus avoiding dangerous collision.

12. No icing the puck while shorthanded.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/article/849379--nhl-gets-prospects-to-try-out-potential-rule-changes?bn=1

_daynzy
08-20-2010, 07:53 AM
2 and 3 would be the best ones IMO, not a fan of the rest

R W G R
08-20-2010, 09:09 AM
I've been following the live coverage of this on the NHL network. A lot of dumb ideas, with a few interesting ones thrown in. Luckily, this is only a R&D camp, and most ideas are not something the league is looking to institute at this time.

Jack Butler
08-20-2010, 12:45 PM
2 and 3 would be the best ones IMO, not a fan of the rest

Yup...4 and 12.
Maybe even having to serve the entire length of the penalty, regardless of being scored on.

R W G R
08-20-2010, 05:36 PM
Yeah, let's make each game 14-12, that will be exciting.

Jack Butler
08-20-2010, 05:52 PM
OK...what?

R W G R
08-20-2010, 09:07 PM
That's what I thought.

Jack Butler
08-20-2010, 09:20 PM
It would mean more goals and maybe a cleaner game with less penalties.
That is a win win.
14-12 is a stretch, not all powerplays do that well as it is, so...

Oscar_Leroy
08-21-2010, 01:10 AM
It would mean more goals and maybe a cleaner game with less penalties.
That is a win win.
14-12 is a stretch, not all powerplays do that well as it is, so...

I never even thought of the penalty rule possibly cleaning up the game. Good point.

R W G R
08-21-2010, 09:47 AM
It would mean more goals and maybe a cleaner game with less penalties.
That is a win win.
14-12 is a stretch, not all powerplays do that well as it is, so...

Everything they do in these RD camps is to either create more offensive or quicken the time the game is played.

The NHL wants 7-6 games, played in just over two hours.

Jack Butler
08-21-2010, 01:30 PM
Everything they do in these RD camps is to either create more offensive or quicken the time the game is played.

1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9 won't effect the time or score.
Maybe you got a different list?

Jack Butler
08-25-2010, 09:37 PM
Olympic question dominates Hockey Summit

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/article/852521--olympic-question-dominates-hockey-summit

Olympic TV rights would take hit if NHL sits out

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/article/852455--olympic-tv-rights-would-take-hit-if-nhl-sits-out


This should be interesting.
The NHL wants a cut or they will do their own thing, Im guessing.
The World Cup could be making a comeback?

R W G R
08-26-2010, 04:08 PM
1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9 won't effect the time or score.


They sure will

Jack Butler
08-26-2010, 04:24 PM
Nooo,
How does changing ot, change a score that gets registered the same regardless?
And changing the colour of the mesh...hm, hm, hm...never mind!

Super Gram
08-29-2010, 05:42 AM
I like 2 and 3 but they will never use it.

R W G R
09-02-2010, 08:43 PM
Nooo,
How does changing ot, change a score that gets registered the same regardless?
And changing the colour of the mesh...hm, hm, hm...never mind!

The red mesh was supposed to be more appealing to the shooter, and help him concentrate more on finding the back of the net. I heard Ken Hitchcock and Brendan Shanahan say as much on the NHL Network.

Stupid? Yes!

And those are the extremes they will go to if it means more scoring.

Jack Butler
09-02-2010, 11:08 PM
....and more room behind the net will help and a bigger offensive zone and....
It's changes to how the game is played that affect score, not changes to the accessories or the cosmetics.
The answer to more goals is as simple as creating an illegal defence...get rid of the trap.
Basketball sort of got rid of zone defence by using a time violation for being in the lane for more than 3 seconds.
Hockey needs to do the same type of thing...make man on man, no zone.
A side from the curved stick, I can't think of any equipment change, accessory change or cosmetic change equating to more goals.
You must thank your lucky stars you get to have these conversations on a Canadian board.
As a result, you get to be the smart american.
Not that there is much competition when it comes to the Canadian game

R W G R
09-03-2010, 10:24 AM
....and more room behind the net will help and a bigger offensive zone and...
Not that there is much competition when it comes to the Canadian game

It is both, Jack. Cosmetics, whatever, it all is used to create more scoring.

As for the Canadian game, this conversation is about hockey, not lacrosse.

When it comes to hockey...

Gold Medals in last fifty years
Canada: 2
U.S.: 2

Also, a record number of Americans were taken in the last NHL draft.

Hockey is Russia's game...but the U.S. is coming up quickly.

As a CHL official said in the most recent addition of The Hockey News, more and more of the premiere athletes in the United States are taking up hockey as a first priority now, not football or baseball. That is a cause of great concern for Hockey Canada, because in the past the U.S. always sent it's third or fourth-best overall athletes to international competition, as hockey was a niche sport in the States.

No more.

Hockey Canada is worried.

They should be.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/265468/usa_wjc_win.jpg
http://www.leaderpost.com/2409402.bin?size=620x400

Jack Butler
09-03-2010, 01:34 PM
It's funny how you pathetically hold those 2 wins...like USA actually compares to Canada.
Hockey is owned by Canadians and as a result, Canadian Hockey is the standard for the rest of the world.
I'm sure it's one of your biggest pet peeves.
Keep chirping and tell all your self appointed buddies to do the same.
USA has been around for like 2 minutes in the grand scheme of things, so keep it up.
Get yourself in our cross hairs like the Russians as competitors and you will get the some result as they did.
Face it, using all the stats, USA is but a blip and nothing more.
And, you comparing the USA to Canada is laughable.
Oh, and the scoring thing...you're wrong!

Jack Butler
09-03-2010, 07:22 PM
Here's an interesting stat I came across on wiki...

From 1920 until 1963, the senior amateur club teams representing Canada, were usually the most recent Allan Cup champions. The last senior team to win a gold medal at the World Championship was the Trail Smoke Eaters in 1961.

Following the 1963 World Championships, Father David Bauer founded the national team as a permanent institution. The new permanent national team first competed at the 1964 Winter Olympics. Since 1964, the national team has two Olympic gold medals, and five world championship wins.


1920 Summer Olympics Winnipeg Falcons Winnipeg, Manitoba
1933 World Championships Toronto National Sea Fleas Toronto, Ontario
1934 World Championships Saskatoon Quakers Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
1935 World Championships Winnipeg Monarchs Winnipeg, Manitoba
1936 Winter Olympics Port Arthur Bearcats Port Arthur, Ontario
1937 World Championships Kimberley Dynamiters Kimberley, British Columbia
1938 World Championships Sudbury Wolves Sudbury, Ontario
1939 World Championships Trail Smoke Eaters Trail, British Columbia
World Championships not held from 1940–1946 during World War II.
1947 World Championships Did not participate
1948 Winter Olympics Ottawa RCAF Flyers RCAF Station Trenton, Ontario
1949 World Championships Sudbury Wolves Sudbury, Ontario
1950 World Championships Edmonton Mercurys Edmonton, Alberta
1951 World Championships Lethbridge Maple Leafs Lethbridge, Alberta
1952 Winter Olympics Edmonton Mercurys Edmonton, Alberta
1953 World Championships Did not participate
1954 World Championships East York Lyndhursts East York, Ontario
1955 World Championships Penticton Vees Penticton, British Columbia
1956 Winter Olympics Kitchener-Waterloo Dutchmen Kitchener–Waterloo, Ontario
1957 World Championships Did not participate
1958 World Championships Whitby Dunlops Whitby, Ontario
1959 World Championships Belleville McFarlands Belleville, Ontario
1960 Winter Olympics Kitchener-Waterloo Dutchmen Kitchener–Waterloo, Ontario
1961 World Championships Trail Smoke Eaters Trail, British Columbia
1962 World Championships Galt Terriers Galt, Ontario
1963 World Championships Trail Smoke Eaters Trail, British Columbia


Ha, ha, ha Sudbury and Kitchener/Waterloo has as many as the USA and The Smoke Eater got you by 1...ha, ha, ah, ha, ha ha!!
Who's your daddy?

Strife
09-09-2010, 12:30 PM
2. No-touch icing.

5. Wider blue lines to increase size of offensive zone.

6. Increase goaltender crease by three inches all around for more goalie protection.

9. Second referee located off playing surface.

10. Face off variation, where puck is placed on dot with faceoff commencing after official's whistle.

11. “Hybrid” icing where linesman determines who would reach the puck first when first man gets to face off dot, thus avoiding dangerous collision.

These are the only viable rules I can see being implemented. The referee located off the ice would be a great rule and would decrease the amount of "behind the play" penalties. I dont think increasing the goalie crease would increase protection seeing as a player can skate through the crease anyways.

Jack Butler
09-09-2010, 01:16 PM
Usually what happens is they talk about all of them, but only keep a few.
It then goes to the AHL for a test run to see how it will effects things.
The NHL never seem accomplish their goal...the changes so far have had the reverse effect.