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R W G R
01-09-2011, 01:47 PM
Over the last 16 seasons, the Detroit Red Wings have enjoyed the most under-appreciated run in NHL history, finishing with under 100 points exactly once in that span and winning four Stanley Cups while establishing the gold standard for organizational excellence over two full generations of hockey.

What's beyond dispute, aside from the Wings' record, is their influence on the contemporary game.

Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Wings+standard/4082135/story.html#ixzz1AZbL1lX6

riggs
01-09-2011, 02:33 PM
Agreed. Detroit has an excellent organization.

Perhaps those involved in the jr. ranks should have a closer look.

Jack Butler
01-09-2011, 02:37 PM
Yeah...*yawns* Canada is the world's hockey power, I know!
Here's what one of our boys did a couple years back.
No one has or will see anything like it!

On Sunday, as Gretzky played his last game, I heard people say he was the Michael Jordan of hockey. Horsepuck. Jordan was the Gretzky of basketball. In 1983-84 Gretzky could've stopped playing on Jan. 7 and still won the scoring title. That's almost three months before the end of the season. How's this? Gretzky took the single-season points record from 152 to 215, an increase of 41%. Jordan would've had to average 71 points a game to do that!

Jack Butler
01-09-2011, 02:45 PM
Here's another good fact you don't want to forget!
Now that set standard that till this day, is unmatched.

If Gretzky was about anything, it was team.
Do you realize Gretzky had more assists than Bobby Orr, Frank Mahovlich and Mike Bossy combined?
He broke Gordie Howe's alltime assist record in 1,086 fewer games than Howe took to set it.
That's 13 seasons! Do you know that Gretzky has the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, 10th, 11th and 12th greatest assists seasons in NHL history?

Oscar_Leroy
01-09-2011, 02:46 PM
I'm pretty sure he was referring to a team and not an individual player, Jack. You do know hockey is a team sport, right? No reference was made to USA vs Canada here until you brought it up. Inferiority complex much, Jack?

Jack Butler
01-09-2011, 02:51 PM
What the heck...here you go.
I will agree with you there, that is quite a standard!


61 NHL records held or shared Career Records
1. Goals: 894
2. Assists: 1,963
3. Points: 2,857
4. Assists per game: 1.32
5. Goals by a center: 894
6. Assists by a center: 1,963
7. Points by a center: 2,857
8. Overtime Assists 15
9. Goals, including playoffs: 949
10. Assists, including playoffs: 2,023
11. Points, including playoffs: 3,239
12. Hat tricks: 50
13. 40-goal seasons: 12
14. 50-goal seasons: 9
15. 60-goal seasons: 5
16. Consecutive 40-goal seasons: 12
17. Consecutive 60-goal seasons: 4
18. 100-point seasons: 15
19. Consecutive 100-point seasons: 13

Single Season Records
20. Goals: 92 (1981-82)
21. Assists: 163 (1985-86)
22. Points: 215 (1985-86)
23. Goals by a center: 92 (1981-82)
24. Assists by a center: 163 (1985-86)
25. Points by a center: 215 (1985-86)
26. Hat tricks: 10 (done twice – 1981-82, & 1983-84)
27. Goals per game: 1.18 (1983-84)
28. Assists per game: 2.04 (1985-86)
29. Points per game: 2.77 (1983-84)
30. Goals, including playoffs: 100 (1983-84)
31. Assists, including playoffs: 174 (1985-86)
32. Points, including playoffs: 255 (1984-85)
33. Goals in first 50 games: 61 (1981-82)
34. Consec. point-scoring streak: 51 (1983-84)
35. Consec. point-scoring streak first 50 games: 51 (1983-84)
36. Consec. assist-scoring streak: 23 (1990-91)

Playoff records
37. Points: 382 (122 goals, 260 assists in 193 games).
38. Goals: 122
39. Assists: 260.
40. Game-winning goals: 22
41. Three-or-more goal games: 8 in 14 seasons.

Single Game
42. Assists (tied): 7 (vs. Washington, Feb. 15, 1980; at Chicago, Dec. 11, 1985; vs. Quebec, Feb. 14, 1986).
43. Assists, road game (tied): 7 at Chicago, Dec. 11, 1985.
44. Assists by a player in his first NHL season: 7, vs. Washington, Feb. 15, 1980.
45. Goals, one period (tied): 4 vs. St. Louis, Feb. 18, 1981.

Playoffs
Single Year
46. Points: 47 in 1985 (17 goals, 30 assists).
47. Assists: 31 in 1988.
48. Short-handed goals: 31 in 1983.
Single Series
49. Points, one final series: 13 in 1988 vs. Boston.
50. Assists in final series: 10 in 1988 vs. Boston.
51. Assists in one series, other than final (tied): 14 in 1985 conference final vs. Chicago.
Single Game
52. Shorthanded goals: 2, April 6, 1983 vs. Winnipeg.
53. Assists: 6, April 9, 1987 vs. Los Angeles.
Single Game
54. Assists: 3 (five times).
55. Points: (tie) 4 (one goal, three assists, 3rd period), April 12, 1987 vs. Los Angeles.
All-Star Games
56. Games: 14
57. Goals, one period: 4 in third period, 1983 at Uniondale, N.Y.
58. Goals, career: 12. Tied
59. Goals, one game: 4 in 1983 at Uniondale, N.Y.
60. Points, one period: 4 in 1983 at Uniondale, N.Y.
61. Points, career: 19 (tie)

Oscar_Leroy
01-09-2011, 02:57 PM
wow you're dumb. This thread is about the wings. You do now your beloved Gretzky didn't play for the wings, right?

Huggy85
01-09-2011, 03:01 PM
Detroit has managed to put together an awesome team for years. Thank goodness Canada is available to provide players though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Detroit_Red_Wings_players

Jack Butler
01-09-2011, 03:07 PM
This is great!
The guy compares Gretz and Jordan in the piece.

In this case, Gretzky, the performer, will be best remembered, and best understood, by teammates, coaches, opponents -- all indebted to Gretzky for making them better than they otherwise were -- and real hockey fans.
Years from now, Jordan's athletic poetry will be remembered with our minds; Gretzky's will be remembered in our hearts.

Jack Butler
01-09-2011, 03:08 PM
Detroit has managed to put together an awesome team for years. Thank goodness Canada is available to provide players though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Detroit_Red_Wings_players

Oh, that arguement...ha, ha!
It's always been that way!

Jack Butler
01-09-2011, 03:10 PM
Detroit has managed to put together an awesome team for years. Thank goodness Canada is available to provide players though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Detroit_Red_Wings_players

Yeah, ha, ha...most americans think the players are from the city they play for!

Strife
01-09-2011, 03:45 PM
Over the last 16 seasons, the Detroit Red Wings have enjoyed the most under-appreciated run in NHL history, finishing with under 100 points exactly once in that span and winning four Stanley Cups while establishing the gold standard for organizational excellence over two full generations of hockey.

What's beyond dispute, aside from the Wings' record, is their influence on the contemporary game.

Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Wings+standard/4082135/story.html#ixzz1AZbL1lX6
I have to agree with you here. Detroit has been the benchmark when it comes to the way a team should play. Before the emergence of Crosby and Ovechkin, no team came close to what Detroit could do on the ice.

official soonet pu$$ycat
01-09-2011, 03:49 PM
Another thing about Detroit is that they have the greatest fans. I've been to tons of Lions, Wings and Tigers games and the atmosphere at all of them are pretty cool. Very friendly people. I've been to the Rogers Center when the tigers were there and have been treated like crap for my tigers hat. Not just jokingly either,these people were extremely serious. Remember Jim Joyce. Look how the fans treated him. We rock

_daynzy
01-09-2011, 04:26 PM
Osgood's my hero.

R W G R
01-12-2011, 06:04 PM
Detroit has managed to put together an awesome team for years. Thank goodness Canada is available to provide players though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Detroit_Red_Wings_players

The Red Wings have the least amount of Canadians of any NHL team.

And it shows! :)

R W G R
01-12-2011, 06:05 PM
Detroit has managed to put together an awesome team for years. Thank goodness Canada is available to provide players though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Detroit_Red_Wings_players


Elsewhere...


Hopefully your voice of reason can put this whole subject to bed, Oscar.

R W G R
01-12-2011, 06:06 PM
This is great!
The guy compares Gretz and Jordan in the piece.

In this case, Gretzky, the performer, will be best remembered, and best understood, by teammates, coaches, opponents -- all indebted to Gretzky for making them better than they otherwise were -- and real hockey fans.
Years from now, Jordan's athletic poetry will be remembered with our minds; Gretzky's will be remembered in our hearts.

Gretzky will be remembered for being a totally useless NHL coach, too. :)

Huggy85
01-12-2011, 07:19 PM
Elsewhere...

Sorry, but this thread was not about "the" game. It was about your post about how well the Detroit Red Wings are playing. Different subject entirely.

R W G R
01-12-2011, 07:35 PM
Sorry, but this thread was not about "the" game. It was about your post about how well the Detroit Red Wings are playing. Different subject entirely.

Translation: "Leave my hypocrisy out of this!!!"

Jack Butler
01-12-2011, 08:26 PM
Gretzky will be remembered for being a totally useless NHL coach, too. :)

You say!

RWGR
01-16-2011, 02:26 PM
You say!

No, this say: 143-161-24

Jack Butler
01-16-2011, 02:47 PM
Ha, ha...you fell for it like the rookie you are!