Murder #3 What is this city coming to?

[MaO3]

Well its official - #3.

I had hoped that since we'd not heard anything that this was a drug overdose or something of that variety, appears not.

http://www.sootoday.com/content/news/full_story.asp?StoryNumber=51042

[Babzz]

Our whole society is going to hell!
Chemical drugs are evil and will be the demise of our whole world. So many people hooked on the **** and caught up in this evil!!

Kids having kids, raised with drugs, No one to teach them right from wrong.., bah

I could go on and on.

It all make me want to hurl. Its time to get back to basics!!!! We are distroying our society!!!!

[Anapeg]

We need more Valium, people are getting cranky!

[Super Gram]

This certainly is bad news


Update:

The victim has been positively identified as Todd Alan Petrie, age 48 years, of 142 Albert Street East, apt. 2.

A post mortem examination was performed on 1 March, 2011 to determine the cause of death.

Cause of death has been determined to be blunt force trauma.

[b&aMom]

Yet another familiar name, if you read local news.

[dancingqueen]

good 'ol peaceful Sault Ste. Marie.... where you can walk down the street and smile and wave at perfect strangers....

[MaO3]

good 'ol peaceful Sault Ste. Marie.... where you can walk down the street and smile and wave at perfect strangers....

Well I still smile, wave and talk to strangers.... However I'm not part of the Drug culture that his obvioulsy running rampant in this city.

[dancingqueen]

I'm not part of the drug culture either, and sometimes I smile and wave at strangers, and they look at me like I'm about to mug them... sometimes, I think they have their hand on their mace bottle....

[dancingqueen]

But yes, there is soooooo much cocaine in this city, it's ridiculous, always has been... seems like it's just getting worse.

[Jackie B]

We need more Valium, people are getting cranky!

Don't worry, the way things are going, it will be pumped into our water supply soon enough. :-/

[hobo]

http://www.saultstar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3000430

Sad story on the decline of a persons existence

[Babzz]

Well I still smile, wave and talk to strangers.... However I'm not part of the Drug culture that his obvioulsy running rampant in this city.

So do I. I talk to everyone and smile at people a lot. Maybe I am nieve, but that is me.

I have told my son he not allowed downtown in the evenings though. I also told him why. Too many crack heads with no sense of right or wrong. . Seems the only thing that is important to them is getting the fix they need to get through a day. Its really sad!!

[HDV]

http://www.saultstar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3000430

Sad story on the decline of a persons existence

After I read the story i felt bad for this guy, then i scrolled down and read the comment someone left...gheez..

[Babzz]

Is that not the saddest statement :(

He told judge Andrew Buttazzoni, "I've become a product of my environment"

[Xzavia]

From the Sault Star link....


Most of his offences weren't as sophisticated. His last appearance in the local courts, in late January, was typical. He was sentenced to 30 days behind bars after pleading guilty to two counts of theft. The previous February he had tried to walk out of the Station Mall Mark's Work Wearhouse with a $150 pair of work boots. In November, he stuffed $60 worth of meat, cheese and an air freshener into his jacket at a local grocery store and was nabbed on his way out.





Weird....what, he didn't want to smell like raw meat and tip them off??

[IMHO]

Is someone in this city "cleaning house" of our criminals?

[UserName]

Like a local Dexter.../

[Jackie B]

It's pretty unnerving to know that all three murders took place downtown. I live downtown with my four kids. I know none of them were random acts, but it's creepy just the same to know my kids might pass someone on the street capable of committing murder. I know we're all capable of committing murder in the right circumstances, but I'm sure you know catch my drift.

[Esso Bee]

Is someone in this city "cleaning house" of our criminals?
Oooh, a vigilante, how exciting!!! I guess local criminals better watch their backs, especially if you're a repeat offender and have had your name published online.

[riggs]

But yes, there is soooooo much cocaine in this city, it's ridiculous, always has been... seems like it's just getting worse.

Cocaine is no longer the #1 drug in this town. I believe the majority have long flocked to the Oxy buzz. You're right though, it's getting a lot worse.

[CANVIK]

This is murder number 4 for 2011, baby murder charge was also layed this year which counts for 2011 stats!!! 4 in 2 months, my what will the other 10 months bring. Can almost guarantee the baby was an innocent victim unlike what some of the others have seemed to be.

[ssmarie]

This is truly a sad story from start to finish - such a nice looking young man caught up in a horrible downward spiral - very sad indeed - condolances to his family and friends

[steve]

cops are too busy looking for people smoking in cars with kids,talking,texting on cell phones,dui's,and i sure agree with Babzz statements.........

[riggs]

cops are too busy looking for people smoking in cars with kids,talking,texting on cell phones,dui's.........

So tell us Steve how these specific murders could have been avoided by police intervention?

[Anapeg]

I have in the past argued that the down town core was not as some thought a horrible place. No longer. We have had drug busts right in our back yards(figuratively speaking) and coming home to-day I was greeted by three squad cars, six officers with a white GMC van stopped two doors down. It seems all the murders have been within a block or two of our house and with grand kids flitting around I am starting to be concerned. Granted we don't live the lifestyle but if you are caught in a cross fire it won't make a particle bit of difference.

[Blunt]

Sounds like the city is getting better

Good riddance to bad rubbish. I only hope every murderer gets caught so we can get rid of 2 people instead of 1.

[steve]

So tell us Steve how these specific murders could have been avoided by police intervention?

maybe a little more dilligence(sp) in the downtown core and more time spent stopping the drug trade,prevention might be the best cure.

[Anapeg]

The cops can name each and every person or at least a good portion of those involved in the local drug trade. That and a buck fifty will get you a cup of coffee at Timmie's. Until the courts stop caring about the bloody criminals and lean toward protecting us and BACKING the local cops what in hell good is picking the criminals up? You only cause them to miss their favourite TV for a couple of hours and annoy them.

THERE! I said it and I'm GLAD!

[Jackie B]

This is truly a sad story from start to finish - such a nice looking young man caught up in a horrible downward spiral - very sad indeed - condolances to his family and friends

Do you know him personally, or is there a picture of him in an article somewhere?

[Ocean]

I agree!

The cops can name each and every person or at least a good portion of those involved in the local drug trade. That and a buck fifty will get you a cup of coffee at Timmie's. Until the courts stop caring about the bloody criminals and lean toward protecting us and BACKING the local cops what in hell good is picking the criminals up? You only cause them to miss their favourite TV for a couple of hours and annoy them.

THERE! I said it and I'm GLAD!

[pyper39]

The cops can name each and every person or at least a good portion of those involved in the local drug trade. That and a buck fifty will get you a cup of coffee at Timmie's. Until the courts stop caring about the bloody criminals and lean toward protecting us and BACKING the local cops what in hell good is picking the criminals up? You only cause them to miss their favourite TV for a couple of hours and annoy them.
THERE! I said it and I'm GLAD! Well said!!

[MaO3]

Yep - I'll agree with anapeg too. There needs to be more deterrent in place. Its pretty when you can search a name on the local news website and get upwards of 8 or 10 different times that that person has been in trouble. It says something about our judicial system (IMHO).

[Super Gram]

Our judicial system stinks.....the cops bring them in and judge lets them off. It's like a revolving door. When will our government wake up and pass some stiffer laws? Instead of fighting with each other.

[RWGR]

Our judicial system stinks.....the cops bring them in and judge lets them off. It's like a revolving door. When will our government wake up and pass some stiffer laws? Instead of fighting with each other.

It's called neo- liberalism, people. It has infested your country, and mine, for years now. Learn to deal with it.

[Cher]

There is little crime in Cuba.. FIRING SQUAD=reduced crime....

[Dragonfly]

There is little crime in Cuba.. FIRING SQUAD=reduced crime....

Agreed but wait for the lynching you will get for this lmao

[Macs II]

More good news .....can't wait for the next one http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q104/Macs20006/cheer2-1.gif

[Anapeg]

It's called neo- liberalism, people. It has infested your country, and mine, for years now. Learn to deal with it.

I can't help but agree but I believe it is worse here. There are a few bleeding heart states but unlike some, Texas is putting in an express lane for convicts and I for one applaud them. Rarely will a post such as this run without some one decrying the poor murdered individual or his poor poor family. To hell with them how about the poor law abiding citizen who is trying to thrive if not simply survive in the same city. It is time for our judges to begin growing a back bone and standing up for the "average" citizen and throw the garbage where it belongs. Unless of course DQ wants to do a twenty year study as to why some waste of flesh took to drugs and crime instead of working for a living. Sorry DQ I couldn't resist.

[Anapeg]

LOL @ 20 year study.
If these criminals had some type of job they have no time to get in to trouble.

This is exactly why they CAN'T work. It interferes with their schedule.

[riggs]

maybe a little more dilligence(sp) in the downtown core and more time spent stopping the drug trade,prevention might be the best cure.

That would definitly be a positive step in the right direction. Where it would fail would be in the lenient justice systems.

[Anapeg]

That would definitly be a positive step in the right direction. Where it would fail would be in the lenient justice systems.

There in lies our problem. There are more vocal people of DQ's mindset then there are of pissed off taxpayers. The squeaky wheel gets the grease unfortunately. Gotta be seen as a politically correct nation, God knows we wouldn't want to upset anyone.

[Joy.D]

Has there been any media speculation on whether these murders are connected or are isolated incidents?

[Blue Lotus Rising]

I'm not part of the drug culture either, and sometimes I smile and wave at strangers, and they look at me like I'm about to mug them... sometimes, I think they have their hand on their mace bottle....

You're much less threatening with your tiara on.

[ssmarie]

Do you know him personally, or is there a picture of him in an article somewhere?

no I don't know him personally...I read an article about him in a newspapaer

[Luv to be on the GO]

Yes,Jackie there is a picture of him in the Sault
Star along with the article ...A very good looking dude
but it`s obvious it`s an older pic !!

[Wrangler35]

So do I. I talk to everyone and smile at people a lot. Maybe I am nieve, but that is me.

I have told my son he not allowed downtown in the evenings though. I also told him why. Too many crack heads with no sense of right or wrong. . Seems the only thing that is important to them is getting the fix they need to get through a day. Its really sad!! Great advice to your son,and your more than right about whose lingering on the streets and the attitude they protray! Not trying to paint ever-one with that comment,but more specifically certain people.

[IMHO]

I think you can get overly cautious...overly concerned. Its a mere coincidence that 3 murders have occured. So far there have not been any statements saying ANY of them are connected. I still see this city as a safe place to live.WHat I do question is WHY we have to have 2 police cars(running) watching the property? The body has long since been removed.These extra costs in overtime and fuel will be passed on to taxpayers.

[everywoman]

I'm guessing the cops care more about protecting a crime scene, than fuel costs......

[dancingqueen]

You're much less threatening with your tiara on.

They don't even try to be polite about it when I have my tiara on.

[Anapeg]

To-day class we will see how a person can get started down the wrong road.

http://www.soonews.ca/viewarticle.php?id=29970


Because people say things like but he is only a child, or but he has a troubled back ground so on and so forth. There was a time when Dad would step in SMACK the little bugger and everyone would move on with their lives. I don't recall nearly as many "older" children misbehaving in the local funny papers then. When there is no retribution there is no control. They have to learn if you hit me, my wife, or my kids, you're getting it back in spades family or not. Time out and/or a stern talking won't cut it here. Hard to tell right now but with the little info given he will likely be the one left standing in a scenario such as this thread mirrors.

[NewCasa]

I like the Sault. Unfortunately, there are a few bad eggs. But mostly, there are just plain good people living here:

http://www.sootoday.com/content/news/full_story.asp?StoryNumber=51043

Please don't let the few spectacular fools ruin it for the rest of the decent ones.

[Jackie B]

To-day class we will see how a person can get started down the wrong road.

http://www.soonews.ca/viewarticle.php?id=29970


Because people say things like but he is only a child, or but he has a troubled back ground so on and so forth. There was a time when Dad would step in SMACK the little bugger and everyone would move on with their lives. I don't recall nearly as many "older" children misbehaving in the local funny papers then. When there is no retribution there is no control. They have to learn if you hit me, my wife, or my kids, you're getting it back in spades family or not. Time out and/or a stern talking won't cut it here. Hard to tell right now but with the little info given he will likely be the one left standing in a scenario such as this thread mirrors.

Where's the soonet "like" button? This post deserves a standing ovation in my books!!!

[MaO3]

I'm with you Jackie, I agree 100%. I'm a firm believer in discipline. Kids need discipline, they need rules, and they need to know that there are consequences for thier actions.

Parents are afraid to parent.

[SIMBA]

I second that!! My boys are now teens and I can honestly say that all of the CONSISTANT disciplining and structure paid off! I see the benefits every day!

[Anapeg]

Parents are afraid to parent.

It all started because someone with an education said hitting little Johny when he did wrong simply reinforced his belief that he was bad. Johny is not bad but what Johny did was. BULL! When Johny screws up a quick soft smack on the rear became a reminder that someone did not appreciate Johny smacking his little sister or swearing at auntie. Respect comes when one person acknowledges another persons ability to make their life less pleasant. So to have a pleasant life you do what the person in command says and all sails along quite smoothly. Each and every action has an equal and immediate reaction, and not all are pleasant.

[IMHO]

Many parents are just too busy to parent....they expect the school system to do that. The day that one parent left the home to work was the day the downfall of the family unit started. In this economy it is tough,I know,not to have 2 incomes...but...there is a family price to pay.

[Babzz]

I'm with you Jackie, I agree 100%. I'm a firm believer in discipline. Kids need discipline, they need rules, and they need to know that there are consequences for thier actions.

Parents are afraid to parent.

I agree with this one percent. My son once told me he would call childrens aid because I was abusing him... sheeeesh
I looked up the phone number for him and told him to call lol


I tapped his mouth because he was being disrespectful to me and I will not tolerate that. Asperbergers or not!!

My son is a well behaved ( for the most part hehe) kid who knows right from wrong. Once he gets through his teen age hormone thing he will be a good , honest person. I know this!!! He is a great, well raised young man. and yes, I am patting myself on the back for doing a great job and doing it all alone too :)

[The Handyman]

Babzz, ... I have seen you and your son interact and I agree that you have done well in the way you have raised him, .... I know he does/will make you proud, .... congrats!

[PlasmaX]

It all started because someone with an education said hitting little Johny when he did wrong simply reinforced his belief that he was bad. Johny is not bad but what Johny did was. BULL! When Johny screws up a quick soft smack on the rear became a reminder that someone did not appreciate Johny smacking his little sister or swearing at auntie. Respect comes when one person acknowledges another persons ability to make their life less pleasant. So to have a pleasant life you do what the person in command says and all sails along quite smoothly. Each and every action has an equal and immediate reaction, and not all are pleasant.

I have to say that I partially agree with you on this one. The problem with physically reprimanding a child is that a lot of people have taken it too far and it has turned into abuse. Also it sometime makes it hard to draw the line between abuse and a good old fashioned spanking. It is especially difficult in this day and age of lawsuits and politcal correctness. I totally agree that respect comes when one person acknowledges the others ability to make their life less pleasant but I feel that this can be done without physical contact. When I was a kid and I misbehaved, my parents would send me to my room for a few hours and I didn't have a phone, tv, xbox, computer, etc. When I was allowed to come out I would think twice before behaving that way again. The trouble with a lot of parents these days is that they buy theirs kids all the toys -cell phone, xbox, laptop, tv and when they send them to their room and/or ground them, they're usually still allowed access to all the toys. You might as well tell your kid you're giving them a few hours of unrestricted play time.

[Lance1]

I think you can get overly cautious...overly concerned. Its a mere coincidence that 3 murders have occured. So far there have not been any statements saying ANY of them are connected. I still see this city as a safe place to live.WHat I do question is WHY we have to have 2 police cars(running) watching the property? The body has long since been removed.These extra costs in overtime and fuel will be passed on to taxpayers.

Two cops in one car, and the car does not block a lane in one of the busiest one way streets in the Sault.

[IMHO]

Sorry but...it surely narrows the lane...how can you think its an ok lane...its at least partially blocked.FOR WHAT?

[Anapeg]

Two cops in one car, and the car does not block a lane in one of the busiest one way streets in the Sault.

If you are piloting a full size vehicle it sure does take up a complete lane. With most drivers not planning any further ahead with their driving than their hood ornament it makes navigating through there an experience at heavy traffic intervals.

[official soonet pu$$ycat]

Oh would you two just bring out the measuring tape already!

... You know to measure the lane size in relation to the car.

[Babzz]

Babzz, ... I have seen you and your son interact and I agree that you have done well in the way you have raised him, .... I know he does/will make you proud, .... congrats!

thanks Handyman :)

[Anapeg]

Oh would you two just bring out the measuring tape already!

... You know to measure the lane size in relation to the car.

TAPE! I don't need no stinking tape! I is what jewal call a pro fessional and when I does my timezits and my gozintas I come up with "It don't friggin' fit!

[icemantbi]

I have met the deceased a few years back through work. He was a con-man, trying to swindle property owners. Having said that, no one deserves to have that happen. And yes, I do believe drugs more than likely had something to do with this, sadly.

[official soonet pu$$ycat]

TAPE! I don't need no stinking tape! I is what jewal call a pro fessional and when I does my timezits and my gozintas I come up with "It don't friggin' fit!

So if I'm understanding you correctly, we need crossing guards at Pine and wellington?

[italiandomino]

This thread has really took off in alot of different directions, i nearly forgot what the heck we were talking about.

[official soonet pu$$ycat]

This thread has really took off in alot of different directions, i nearly forgot what the heck we were talking about.

Whether or not 5 extra large coffees can safely fit in one tray.

[Anapeg]

So if I'm understanding you correctly, we need crossing guards at Pine and wellington?

Sorry, I thought we where talking about Waboose. I gotsa pay closer atten..........LOOK! A RABBIT!

[will]

get rid of the criminals i got no use for em

[stupefied]

Because people say things like but he is only a child, or but he has a troubled back ground so on and so forth. There was a time when Dad would step in SMACK the little bugger and everyone would move on with their lives. I don't recall nearly as many "older" children misbehaving in the local funny papers then. When there is no retribution there is no control. They have to learn if you hit me, my wife, or my kids, you're getting it back in spades family or not. Time out and/or a stern talking won't cut it here. Hard to tell right now but with the little info given he will likely be the one left standing in a scenario such as this thread mirrors.:thumbs_up:

[starterwiz]

Sounds like the city is getting better

Good riddance to bad rubbish. I only hope every murderer gets caught so we can get rid of 2 people instead of 1.

Did they lock you up yet? I heard it was you that did it. That's what it said in the article anyway. "Blunt force trauma". What is "force trauma"?

[Blue Lotus Rising]

What is "force trauma"?
His middle and last names, silly.

[NewCasa]

The question is, what did he force grandma to do?

[Anapeg]

John Force took Grandma out to a todo??

[NewCasa]

John Force took Grandma out to a todo??

Bluntly speaking....

[daynzy]

nice jokes.. are you aware someone died?

[Anapeg]

Wasn't anyone I new. Life goes on, unfortunately.

[official soonet pu$$ycat]

nice jokes.. are you aware someone died?

Haha. The guy who's avatar says dodge the father, ram the daughter wants a little respect around here. Please tell me the ramming is consensual?

[Christopher2007]

I tapped his mouth because he was being disrespectful to me and I will not tolerate that. Asperbergers or not!!

That is not very safe. What if he could not breath because a clogged nose? Or if he barfed inside his mouth and started chocking on his own barf?

Its not that likely, but it can happen. Seems very irresponsible to take such a big risk just to try to teach a child a lesson.

[Melanie Booker]

actually she didn't. christopher seems to have misread.
she didn't tape his mouth, she gave it a tap


but yes, taping would be wrong. lol

[IMHO]

It seems this thread should be retired...everyone is way off the topic. SOMEONE DIED,FOLKS!!!!!

[D0bb3r]

Meh .. just some druggie killing another druggie .... perhaps crime stoppers should be offering rewards !!

[1337]

Wasn't anyone I new. Life goes on, unfortunately.

And if it was, you'd be the first to come on here and demand respect. Wouldn't it :)

[Anapeg]

And if it was, you'd be the first to come on here and demand respect. Wouldn't it :)

Have you seriously read any of my posts in the past? If you had you would know that statement to be false, at least when associated with flotsam of life. A person of good standing, absolutely but this is not the case. Druggies, thuggies and lusting after kids in buggies gets you NO sympathy from me.

[official soonet pu$$ycat]

It seems this thread should be retired...everyone is way off the topic. SOMEONE DIED,FOLKS!!!!!

Oh I hadn't realized until you used all capitals.

[Anapeg]

Oh I hadn't realized until you used all capitals.

BAD KITTY!

New title; Official attack cat of Soonet.

[official soonet pu$$ycat]

BAD KITTY!

New title; Official attack cat of Soonet.

I think you took it the wrong way. I actually didn't realize it until the letters screamed it out. With your lack of respect for the deceased, we should rename anadisrepectfulpeg. He had a troubled background. Poor guy :(

[Melanie Booker]

It seems this thread should be retired...everyone is way off the topic. SOMEONE DIED,FOLKS!!!!!

it was heading toward retirement before you bumped it up with this post. lol

[b&aMom]

Uh..... O.o

[Babzz]

Oh god. I hope that is not true.

[b&aMom]

A post from someone that seems to have dissappeared said they heard there were more bodies located on the property.

[dancingqueen]

It's the mafia... they have infiltrated soonet....

[Anapeg]

I think you took it the wrong way. I actually didn't realize it until the letters screamed it out. With your lack of respect for the deceased, we should rename anadisrepectfulpeg. He had a troubled background. Poor guy :(

If that is disrespecting, then so be it. Respect is earned not freely given. He did nothing to earn respect from you, me or anyone else. If the truth be known, I am holding back so as to not offend. If you like I can fire a broadside, take a one month forced sabbatical then renew acquaintances when I am allowed back? I feel remorse for those left behind but that is the best I can do.

[official soonet pu$$ycat]

If that is disrespecting, then so be it. Respect is earned not freely given. He did nothing to earn respect from you, me or anyone else. If the truth be known, I am holding back so as to not offend. If you like I can fire a broadside, take a one month forced sabbatical then renew acquaintances when I am allowed back? I feel remorse for those left behind but that is the best I can do.

Oh.. I was just kidding. I actually agree with all your comments.

[lynys]

Well there are two police cars there as well as a big bus-like thing... didn't catch the name on the side of it.

Wonder why they're still there?

[Anapeg]

Oh.. I was just kidding. I actually agree with all your comments.

Gottcha ***** Cat.