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"In the past, the American results have been shockingly poor. In the last survey, taken in 1995, students from only two countries—Cyprus and South Africa—scored lower than U.S. school kids."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20205125/site/newsweek/
Canadian teens have flunked the health test for a third year straight, and are running the risk of having shorter lifespans than their parents.
Active Healthy Kids Canada dished out a ‘D' for physical activity levels of teens, saying they've reached an all-time low. Only immediate action to empower a change will help, the charity group says.
LINK (http://www.sportmatters.ca/Groups/News%20and%20SMG%20Releases/07%2006%20June/June%2027_Globe-Canadas%20teems%20flunk.htm)
# 17% of all high school graduates in Canada are illiterate (Southam Survey)
# 40% of Canadians can't read due lo limited or nonexistent reading skills (Statistics Canada Report,1989)
# The dropout rate is approaching 30%!
LINK (http://www.freedomparty.on.ca/freedomflyer/ff21_11.htm)
Canada lags behind other developed countries in child care and needs to set up a national, publicly-funded system to cure the problem, says the Paris-based Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development.
A new report by the respected international organization recommends that Ottawa and the provinces pay 40% each for the cost of an adequate national day care program, while parents fund the remaining 20%.
While more Canadian mothers with young children work outside the home than in almost any other country, Canada invests less than half of what other developed nations devote on average to early-childhood education, the report says.
LINK (http://www.nupge.ca/news_2004/n26oc04b.htm)
Canadian students are finishing high school without a basic understanding of their country's history,
and schools are ignoring the subject in favour of a new fixation with math and science, the
Dominion Institute says
LINK (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:NmAh9qWh-i4J:www.innovativeresearch.ca/Students%2520don%27t%2520know%2520D-Day%2520-%2520Advocacy%2520Group.pdf+canada+schools+failing&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=us&client=firefox-a)
And that pertains to me how?
You should be more worried about the morons wandering your city streets than of anything that goes on in the U.S.
If I have a choice between morons wandering the streets or morons executing school kids, I gladly stay at this site of the border.
Makes a lot of sense, as usual.
I does for those of us who are not used to gang violence, ghetto's, or even having to lock our doors.
You haven't been to Toronto, Montreal, Winnipeg, Vancouver, Calgary...
Have you been to all those places?
directly from Statistics Canada's most recent justice stats for 2004. Still, it is a curious number to highlight.
Violent crime in this country rose steadily during the 1960s, '70s and '80s
LINK (http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/realitycheck/violent_crime.html)
Stats Canada's 2006 survey of crime has Winnipeg leading the country in several categories.
It will come as no surprise to any Winnipegger who's had his or her car stolen, garage broken into or corner convenience store robbed -- the manitoba capital has the highest crime rate among major cities in CANADA.
LINK (http://jimcotton.blogspot.com/2007/07/winnipeg-crime-captial-of-canada.html)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hans</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have you been to all those places? </div></div>
Toronto.
How many big American cities have you been to?
Brimley doesn't count.
I have been there also! And Detroit. Does that count as a big city? Also been in Brussels, Amsterdam, Prague, Berlin, Lichtenstein, Luxembourg and I was close to Rome.
And a bunch of others I forgot about over time.
Can I have your autograph?
Hans, do your relatives in Belgium now consider you Hans across the water?
I dunno, why don't you ask them?
What's the number to the Belgian insane asylum?
Well, I have better things to do then falling below basement level. We will speak again once you have found some words to use that almost make sense.
Don't leave me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
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It's freakin' lonely in here...I hate it /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
Hans, you know I was only joking /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
You know darn well you're the only one I feel is certifiably insane in your family.
stupefied
08-11-2007, 04:33 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Arrogant Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
# 40% of Canadians can't read due lo limited or nonexistent reading skills (Statistics Canada Report,1989)
LINK (http://www.freedomparty.on.ca/freedomflyer/ff21_11.htm)
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40% that's pretty pathetic. Pretty hard to believe also since most sources cite between 97% and 99% literacy rate for Canadians. I did find some interesting info though, and since it seems this forum is all about Canada vs. U.S. I will quote
"Among the countries that chose to participate in the 2003 survey, Canada ranked roughly in the middle. On the prose scale, residents of only two countries (Norway and Bermuda) performed better than Canada. <u>Adults in the United States performed slightly less well than Canadians on all scales.</u>"
Source (http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/050511/d050511b.htm)
The two countries are pretty equal in this but it's upsetting how many lack the skills to read and comprehend all but the most basic information.
The Berean
08-11-2007, 06:31 PM
There was part of an Ontario generation of kids who suffered under a US led dropping of phonics for reading. I personally know several illiterate people in the age group around 45 to 50 right now.
Fortunately, it didnt last too long.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">US led dropping of phonics </div></div>
That shows your ignorance of the issue.
How can it be "U.S.-led"? Each state has their own educational policies. There is not one, huge policy from Washington. Education is local in the U.S.
The year 2002 marks the 20th anniversary of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. In February, an Environics poll found that 82% of Canadians said the Charter was an important symbol of national identity. Oddly, however, a Leger poll released on November 18 indicated that more than half of Canadians could not name one right contained in the document.
LINK (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3543/is_200212/ai_n8358315)
Unbelievable.
adigirl
08-11-2007, 07:28 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Arrogant Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You should be more worried about the morons wandering your city streets than of anything that goes on in the U.S. </div></div>
I would be more worried about wandering the US streets than Canada!!!
There's always the risk of getting run over by a herd of drunken moose on any Canadian street.
dancingqueen
08-11-2007, 09:51 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Arrogant Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The year 2002 marks the 20th anniversary of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. In February, an Environics poll found that 82% of Canadians said the Charter was an important symbol of national identity. Oddly, however, a Leger poll released on November 18 indicated that more than half of Canadians could not name one right contained in the document.
LINK (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3543/is_200212/ai_n8358315)
Unbelievable. </div></div>
that's actually really sad
dancingqueen
08-11-2007, 09:52 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Arrogant Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There's always the risk of getting run over by a herd of drunken moose on any Canadian street. </div></div>
I'm more worried of the mosquito swarms
Mosquitoes the size of pterodactyls.
dancingqueen
08-11-2007, 10:12 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Arrogant Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mosquitoes the size of pterodactyls. </div></div>
no, that's in the spring before they get full sized
Soundbear
08-11-2007, 11:24 PM
Speaking of Canadian literacy, I note that the study was 18 years old.
Perhaps someone couldn't read that before he posted it.
Soundbear
08-11-2007, 11:26 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Arrogant Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">US led dropping of phonics </div></div>
That shows your ignorance of the issue.
How can it be "U.S.-led"? Each state has their own educational policies. There is not one, huge policy from Washington. Education is local in the U.S.
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Tell us, does each and every state print its own textbooks, or do they perhaps share the same sources across state lines.
And there are no cross country standards or tests??
Interesting.
Speedy, do a search on Rick Mercer.
He has fun with "Americans".
Name one country that begins with the letter U.
All he got was blank faces.
He had a congressman beleive that we finally switched to a 24 hour clock.
Asking average citizens how they felt about Canada getting a daily newspaper.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Speaking of Canadian literacy, I note that the study was 18 years old.
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Even so, that still doesn't match the time you posted a 'news story' from 1961 about current troubles in the RCC /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/lol.gif
As far as the literacy issue, you'll see the problem has only become worse since eighteen years ago, sadly enough.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Arrogant Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">US led dropping of phonics </div></div>
That shows your ignorance of the issue.
How can it be "U.S.-led"? Each state has their own educational policies. There is not one, huge policy from Washington. Education is local in the U.S.
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Tell us, does each and every state print its own textbooks, or do they perhaps share the same sources across state lines.
And there are no cross country standards or tests??
Interesting. </div></div>
Of course there is the chance a few states will have the same textbook in one subject or another; but more often than not different texts are used. Local school boards and local schools choose the text of their liking, as there are hundreds of companies to choose from.
If anything can truly still be called decentralized in the U.S., it's education. The recent No Child Left Behind legislation has offered Washington a little window to poke its nose in the local educational scene, but not nearly to the degree its critics contended.
Go to thirty states, you'll probably find twenty-three different science textbooks.
As for phonics programs, some states have used the program T-Pot described (a program I think has been shown to not work), while others have stayed with the more conventional ways of teaching reading. But to say someone or someplace 'followed the American way' of teaching reading is absurd, because there are a myriad of ways reading is taught in the U.S.
stupefied
08-12-2007, 08:59 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Speaking of Canadian literacy, I note that the study was 18 years old.
Perhaps someone couldn't read that before he posted it. </div></div>
Unfortunately we have not made any progress in the 18 years since.
Ottawa – May 11, 2005 – New survey results that point to almost half of adult Canadians having only low-level literacy skills have prompted a call for a more cohesive approach to improving adult literacy.
“In today’s knowledge society and economy, it is unacceptable for 42 percent of Canadians to have only low-level literacy skills,”
Source (http://www.ccl-cca.ca/CCL/Newsroom/Releases/11May05-Literacy.htm)
I can't believe it. Speedy is RWGR. Barry was right. I owe him an apology.
stupefied
08-12-2007, 09:07 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Arrogant Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In February, an Environics poll found that 82% of Canadians said the Charter was an important symbol of national identity. Oddly, however, a Leger poll released on November 18 indicated that more than half of Canadians could not name one right contained in the document.</div></div>
That is very sad. What's worse, which fits in with the low literacy in a way, is how people interpret what's in the Charter. Try explaining to someone how a persons 'freedom of conscience and religion' applies to a sikh Mountie wearing a turban for example.
Soundbear
08-12-2007, 09:46 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aydeloof</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can't believe it. Speedy is RWGR. Barry was right. I owe him an apology.
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Not at all my friend. I knew it would become obvious eventually.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aydeloof</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can't believe it. Speedy is RWGR. Barry was right. I owe him an apology.
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Aydeloof was the last one I thought would jump on that bandwagon! /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/lol.gif
Oh well, he's lashing out, no big deal. It has been a rough week for the gumball minister in here! /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/lol.gif
Cool, I'm Rwgr!!! /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/purpbanana.gif
Speedy, you have the personality of a schoolyard bully.
And you have one of a fly-by-night televangelist.
Who is worse off? /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool_shades.gif
Chill out.
Soundbear
08-13-2007, 10:48 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aydeloof</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Speedy, you have the personality of a schoolyard bully.
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Always did, whatever name he used.
Poor devil.
"Devil", as in because I'm a Catholic, thus a pseudo-satanist, or just plain ol' devil?
It's good to have you back, Barry. You always added so much to this board.
Soundbear
08-13-2007, 12:30 PM
One thing I'm sure to add is some insight into the mind of at least one american Roman Catholic.
Unanswered questions such as "Which bible do you use?" or "How do you know you are saved?" or "What do believe one must do to be saved (re works)?", show me the lack of depth of your commitment to your faith.
"Jesus Christ is Lord!" Do you agree??
Rom 10:11
11
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
I Jn 4:15
15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
Matt 10:32-33
32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Pick a 3 digit number, in this example it's 673.
673 x 7 = 4711
4711 x 143 = 673673
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One thing I'm sure to add is some insight into the mind of at least one american Roman Catholic.
Unanswered questions such as "Which bible do you use?" or "How do you know you are saved?" or "What do believe one must do to be saved (re works)?", show me the lack of depth of your commitment to your faith.
"Jesus Christ is Lord!" Do you agree??
Rom 10:11
11
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
I Jn 4:15
15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
Matt 10:32-33
32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
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"Waste not your time on uneducated fundamentalists"
-Speedy
Don't flatter yourself as to thinking I would expend an iota of energy on your condescending questions.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hans</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pick a 3 digit number, in this example it's 673.
673 x 7 = 4711
4711 x 143 = 673673 </div></div>
666
666 + a faulty reading of Revelations = the belief the anti-Christ will be wandering around earth with "666" stamped on his forehead.
Such thinking makes God look like a second-rate thriller novelist who has not yet reached the levels of Stephen King.
Soundbear
08-13-2007, 01:38 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Arrogant Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One thing I'm sure to add is some insight into the mind of at least one american Roman Catholic.
Unanswered questions such as "Which bible do you use?" or "How do you know you are saved?" or "What do believe one must do to be saved (re works)?", show me the lack of depth of your commitment to your faith.
"Jesus Christ is Lord!" Do you agree??
Rom 10:11
11
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
I Jn 4:15
15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
Matt 10:32-33
32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
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"Waste not your time on uneducated fundamentalists"
-Speedy
Don't flatter yourself as to thinking I would expend an iota of energy on your condescending questions. </div></div>
Condescending?? Hmmm.
Any other Christians here think that asking a guy who claims to be a Christian what he thinks about these things is condescending??
I was always taught that we should KNOW what we believe and be ready to tell others. It is the Gospel, after all.
Well, I believe Speedy is RWGR.
Barry, asking "how do you know you are saved" reeks of fundamentalist condescension. And please, quit with the "Anybody else here think..." stuff that you always resort to. You look pathetic begging for help.
I HOPE I am saved, just as you do. And if you think that right now it's a slam dunk that Barry Morris is saved and going to heaven then you are sadly and grossly misled.
Soundbear
08-13-2007, 03:28 PM
How sad it would be to go through life wondering if I missed doing that one good work that will make me a child of God, or if I made one little mistake that would exclude me.
I ask simple questions.
"What think ye of Christ?"
Soundbear
08-13-2007, 03:28 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hans</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, I believe Speedy is RWGR. </div></div>
It was obvious to me.
Soundbear
08-13-2007, 03:30 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Arrogant Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Barry, asking "how do you know you are saved" reeks of fundamentalist condescension.
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Reeks of the Word of God, too.
1 Pet 3:15
15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1 Pet 3:15
15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: </div></div>
Don't flatter yourself.
That refers to people who genuinely want to know why it is the Christian has found peace, serenity, and love in a world seemingly gone mad.
It has NOTHING to do with answering holier than thou 'fundies' one some obscure Internet board.
Soundbear
08-13-2007, 03:52 PM
But Speedy, you have NEVER told us how you "found peace, serenity, and love in a world seemingly gone mad." Do you not think that there might be a lurker who wants to know??
Polite requests are treated by responses almost exactly like those of our resident atheists.
Barry, I found it by ditching the Protestant faith of my father and accepting the Catholic faith of my mother and her side of the family.
That's it, in a nutshell.
Until then it was murky, and made little sense. Protestantism almost lost God for me, Catholicism brought me back.
I understand there are other stories in opposition to mine, and that's fine. You wanted an answer, I provided it.
Soundbear
08-13-2007, 03:59 PM
Thank you. You can catch your breath now, and we'll ask you for specifics later.
Speedy = 6 letters
Parrot = 6 letters
Poster = 6 letters
Speedy = 666
dancingqueen
08-13-2007, 04:19 PM
OMG! it's an elaborate sceme of the Devil... Speedy is not RWGR... Speedy is the devil.
duh duh duhhhhh
dancingqueen
08-13-2007, 04:22 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How sad it would be to go through life wondering if I missed doing that one good work that will make me a child of God, or if I made one little mistake that would exclude me.
I ask simple questions.
"What think ye of Christ?" </div></div>
Well, I am sure you know what I think of Christ, so I won't go there.
I ask you the flip side of the begining of this phrase:
how would you feel knowing after you die you had not lead a life of your own, but one for your god and it had prooven to be in vain? What if you die and it is but another diety who really didn't care who you belived in? What if living your life according to god was all but a waste?
Alright, you guys figured it out...Damn you (And when I say that, it means something!)
But you know, this anti-Christ business isn't really what it's cracked up to be. When I answered the ad in Spiritual Realm Illustrated (Wanted: anti-Christ)I thought this would be one hell of a gig (no pun intended).
Instead, I'm stuck on some obscure bulletin board, and can't move up!
Where is the global empire? Unfathomable riches? Worship of millions?
Always, always read the fine print before singing any contract, people.
Soundbear
08-13-2007, 05:04 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dancingqueen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
how would you feel knowing after you die you had not lead a life of your own, but one for your god and it had prooven to be in vain? What if you die and it is but another diety who really didn't care who you belived in? What if living your life according to god was all but a waste? </div></div>
By definition, the God I believe in is my God.
There can only be ONE infinite all knowing God.
And I thought politicians were good at avoiding questions!!!
Wow!!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> By definition, the God I believe in is my God.</div></div>
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Barry wins the title of "Captain Obvious" for this year!
always read the fine print before singing any contract, people.
Right. I never SING contracts before reading the fine print.
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That must have been a SIGN I was typing too fast
dancingqueen
08-13-2007, 09:11 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dancingqueen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
how would you feel knowing after you die you had not lead a life of your own, but one for your god and it had prooven to be in vain? What if you die and it is but another diety who really didn't care who you belived in? What if living your life according to god was all but a waste? </div></div>
By definition, the God I believe in is my God.
There can only be ONE infinite all knowing God. </div></div>
honestly Barry, I excpected more than this out of you...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dancingqueen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
how would you feel knowing after you die you had not lead a life of your own, but one for your god and it had prooven to be in vain? What if you die and it is but another diety who really didn't care who you belived in? What if living your life according to god was all but a waste? </div></div>
By definition, the God I believe in is my God.
There can only be ONE infinite all knowing God.</div></div>
How can you say that there can only be one? This isn't a section from the highlander movie.
We can't prove that there is one, we have to beleive that there is. If we beleive that there is one, why can't we beleive in two or more.
If god is more than time, energy, mass. How can we define him/her/it as being just 1 entity?
We can't scientifically define where he is or plane on the universe he lives, or even if you call his existence LIFE.
So that being said, if God is just there. How can we prove that there isn't 2 or more?
Barry used the word Infinite.
Philosophically, you cannot have two infinite gods.
dancingqueen
08-14-2007, 08:18 AM
"infinite" a word that is used to describe everything but not having to explain anything... gotta love that word *sigh*
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aydeloof</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Barry used the word Infinite.
Philosophically, you cannot have two infinite gods.
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Poor Aydeloof, he got his old job back: that of trying to explain to everyone else what Barry means /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/lol.gif
Good luck!
Soundbear
08-14-2007, 11:33 AM
Shirley, what's that smell?
One thing we've never been able to discuss is exactly what the definition of God must be. Never mind what you believe in, just definitions.
If one would give some thought to the matter, it stands to reason that there could only be one being that knows everything.
If two beings knew everything, they would know every thought and action and purpose of the other. That makes no sense, because they would then be of the same mind, in other words, one being.
If A has to interpret my obtuse comments, it is surely better than those showing evidence of your intelligent behind, Speedy.
I am serious...and don't call me Shirley.
dancingqueen
08-14-2007, 03:29 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Shirley, what's that smell?
One thing we've never been able to discuss is exactly what the definition of God must be. Never mind what you believe in, just definitions.
If one would give some thought to the matter, it stands to reason that there could only be one being that knows everything.
If two beings knew everything, they would know every thought and action and purpose of the other. That makes no sense, because they would then be of the same mind, in other words, one being.
If A has to interpret my obtuse comments, it is surely better than those showing evidence of your intelligent behind, Speedy.
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God:
God:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/God
I would say, in short the almighty, is that fair?
but my question remains unanswered, what if the god you thought you knew was not the true one? what if there was none? what if your life following god was all in vain?
Imagine, looking back on your life and seeing that you where not living your life, the life God gave you but you where living your life through someone else's expectations. Would that not be the biggest regret one could have? I know I think it would be. and If the Catholic, or catholic, or Christian or Jehova, or whatever god it is that is there cannot accept me into heaven because although I lived a good life I did not meet some "technicality" in their scriptures, then that god is an [censored] and I wouldn't want to spend eternity there anyways. How could anyone want to is beyond me really.
dancingqueen
08-14-2007, 03:31 PM
did anyone else notice how we got from failing marks in Canada to this??? /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/lol.gif
It happens to every thread that sheds a sort of negative light on Canada.
dancingqueen
08-14-2007, 04:13 PM
sad though isn't it... I mean, I am just as patriotic about my country as the next person, but Patryisim (sp?) doesn't have to include insulting other Countries and ignoring our flaws, if we ignore them, how else can we expect to improve???
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