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opinionated
09-22-2011, 02:12 PM
Heard three blasts now in the last half hour. Is there something special going on or is this normal? Dont see anything in the news. Appears to be coming from the Old Stone House.

IMHO
09-22-2011, 02:17 PM
I heard it too...terrific blasts...downtown area....do not hear any emergency vehicles though.

MagicFingers
09-22-2011, 02:59 PM
is it that pioneer days festival. I believe they had one last year at this time of year and the fire cannons, guns, and have a bunch of different activities.

MagicFingers
09-22-2011, 03:02 PM
I just looked it up and yes that is what they are doing the reinactment of the war of 1812

Huggy85
09-22-2011, 04:45 PM
the war of 1812

That's the one that the Americans lost to Canada and some aboriginal warriors, fair and square, isn't it?

RWGR
09-22-2011, 04:55 PM
That's the one that the Americans lost to Canada and some aboriginal warriors, fair and square, isn't it?

Nope, the War of 1812 was a draw. And in 1812 the Dominion of Canada was 55 years away from even existing.

So, the U.S., just a brand new nation, fought the British superpower to a draw.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LSarhZpnMs

Huggy85
09-22-2011, 04:58 PM
Nope, the War of 1812 was a draw.

Got anything other than just your feeble opinion to base your comments on?



http://www.warof1812.ca/summary.html

In the end we ask who won and who lost the War of 1812. The clear loser in this conflict without any doubt is the Native People of North America. In the summer of 1815, the United States signed fifteen treaties with the tribes, guaranteeing their status as of 1811. But it did not return an acre of land. The dream of the Indian state never came true.

If any one could claim victory it was Canada. The United States declared war on Great Britain and set out to make Canada states in the union. Ten American armies crossed into Canada and all were driven out.

There are even court martial charges laid against some of the American Generals after the Second Battle of La Colle. President Madison tries to put a lid on it, and intervenes, but too late. The American public quickly becomes disillusioned, and support for the war starts to fall away after the burning of Washington. The war should never have been fought. It was motivated by merchants and greed. It had little to do with patriotism, or national pride. The US gained nothing in territory that had not been surrendered to it by the Treaty of Paris.

RWGR
09-22-2011, 05:00 PM
Got anything other than just your feeble opinion to base your comments on?



http://www.warof1812.ca/summary.html

In the end we ask who won and who lost the War of 1812. The clear loser in this conflict without any doubt is the Native People of North America. In the summer of 1815, the United States signed fifteen treaties with the tribes, guaranteeing their status as of 1811. But it did not return an acre of land. The dream of the Indian state never came true.

If any one could claim victory it was Canada. The United States declared war on Great Britain and set out to make Canada states in the union. Ten American armies crossed into Canada and all were driven out.

There are even court martial charges laid against some of the American Generals after the Second Battle of La Colle. President Madison tries to put a lid on it, and intervenes, but too late. The American public quickly becomes disillusioned, and support for the war starts to fall away after the burning of Washington. The war should never have been fought. It was motivated by merchants and greed. It had little to do with patriotism, or national pride. The US gained nothing in territory that had not been surrendered to it by the Treaty of Paris.

Canada did not exist apart from the British Empire. It was British soldiers who did most of the fighting.

Using your 'logic', the U.S. can now claim we beat France in 1763 (French and Indian war), even though we weren't a nation until 13 years later.

As you can see, your 'logic' is no logic at all, but mere wishful thinking and the ruminations of a guy extremely jealous his country cannot inspire the patriotism he sees in videos like this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJNqep77vBw&feature=related

RWGR
09-22-2011, 05:03 PM
Q: How old is Canada?
A: It was established as a country in 1867.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_old_is_Canada#ixzz1YjHHSZHQ



OOOOOPS!!!! :)

8th
09-22-2011, 05:05 PM
wiki LOL

RWGR
09-22-2011, 05:05 PM
wiki LOL

Okay, you tell me when Canada became a country

RWGR
09-22-2011, 05:06 PM
1. Canada became a country in 1867.

2. The first prime minister was John A MacDonald.

http://realcanadianenglish.blogspot.com/2011/06/how-old-is-canada.html


OOOOOPS!!! :)

Huggy85
09-22-2011, 05:06 PM
Canada did not exist apart from the British Empire. It was British soldiers who did most of the fighting.



Yet America lost. And I still see only opinion in your posts. So typical - can't back up anything you say....

RWGR
09-22-2011, 05:07 PM
Yet America lost. And I still see only opinion in your posts. So typical - can't back up anything you say....

It was a draw, as any serious historian will tell you.

We, a small nation just starting out, fought the mighty British to a draw.





What a country. Amazing.

Huggy85
09-22-2011, 05:08 PM
It was a draw, as any serious historian

I suspect by "serious" you really mean "American".

8th
09-22-2011, 05:08 PM
Okay, you tell me when Canada became a country said the teacher LOL

RWGR
09-22-2011, 05:12 PM
Look, even your government's own website doesn't mention the phantom victory in 1812 http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/sub.cfm?source=history

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing013.gif

RWGR
09-22-2011, 05:12 PM
said the teacher LOL

I already provided the info, I want you to show it's wrong.

Good luck!! :)

Huggy85
09-22-2011, 05:15 PM
Look, even your government's own website doesn't mention the phantom victory in 1812 http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/sub.cfm?source=history

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing013.gif

That is obviously because Canada did not become a Confederation until 1867! Canada was a British territory. But the point still stands; Imperialist American invaded British North America with the intent of making it part of America and lost pitifully.

RWGR
09-22-2011, 05:16 PM
I suspect by "serious" you really mean "American".


From a book by J. Mackay Hitsman, a Canadian military archivist, where he calls the war a "draw" http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/138815.The_Incredible_War_of_1812

RWGR
09-22-2011, 05:17 PM
That is obviously because Canada did not become a Confederation until 1867! Canada was a British territory. But the point still stands; Imperialist American invaded British North America with the intent of making it part of America and lost pitifully.

Wow, some serious back-tracking there, champ!!! :) :) :)

Huggy85
09-22-2011, 05:17 PM
From a book by J. Mackay Hitsman, a Canadian military archivist, where he calls the war a "draw" http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/138815.The_Incredible_War_of_1812

Obviously this book is a great resource - rated 2.4 out of 5! LOL!

RWGR
09-22-2011, 05:17 PM
So, tell me, Huggy...did the US beat France in 1763?

RWGR
09-22-2011, 05:18 PM
Obviously this book is a great resource - rated 2.4 out of 5! LOL!

But he's Canadian! :)

RWGR
09-22-2011, 05:20 PM
So, tell me, Huggy...did the US beat France in 1763?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

Barry Morris
09-22-2011, 05:44 PM
How long did you wait this time before putting up the cricket??

Two minutes??

:) :) :)