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Barry Morris
07-19-2015, 02:38 PM
Science Has Finally Proven That Atheism Defies Any Logic and Reason

http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/science-has-finally-proven-that-atheism-defies-any-logic-and-reason/



That's what I thought. He also mentions that God is OUTSIDE the universe!!

RWGR
07-19-2015, 03:08 PM
I love pointing out to Atheists that it was a Catholic priest who came up with the Big Bang Theory

http://www.amnh.org/education/resources/rfl/web/essaybooks/cosmic/p_lemaitre.html

To say Christianity is anti-science is absurd. The Church was science's biggest promoter.

Hans
07-19-2015, 06:38 PM
Big bang theory based on religious beliefs is not the same as the one based on science.
All that a certain Pope was stating is that the big bang theory is "compatible" with the Christian view on the creation of the universe.

Hans
07-19-2015, 06:41 PM
Science Has Finally Proven That Atheism Defies Any Logic and Reason

http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/science-has-finally-proven-that-atheism-defies-any-logic-and-reason/



That's what I thought. He also mentions that God is OUTSIDE the universe!!

Because that is the only way you can explain a creation based on a Deity without having to explain how such a Deity can exist.
It is a reflection based on how we create something, since it is the only way we can describe a creation of something without using science.

RWGR
07-19-2015, 06:56 PM
Big bang theory based on religious beliefs is not the same as the one based on science.

what???

Hans
07-19-2015, 10:21 PM
The religious belief is that God started creation with something that resembles the big bang event. They call if fiat Lux in Latin.
The scientific belief is that the big bang was not a God based creation event, but the result of a natural process.

Barry Morris
07-19-2015, 11:15 PM
The religious belief is that God started creation with something that resembles the big bang event. They call if fiat Lux in Latin.
The scientific belief is that the big bang was not a God based creation event, but the result of a natural process.

Oh, well, if you don't WANT to read views countering your own, we'll just forget it.

Hans
07-19-2015, 11:47 PM
It has nothing to do with reading. It has to do with the illogical belief in a creator.

Barry Morris
07-20-2015, 01:18 AM
It has nothing to do with reading. It has to do with the illogical belief in a creator.

If you'd look at the video, you'd understand the illogical belief that all that we see came from nothing, and the incredible odds against ANY other life in the universe.
We all need to be open minded enough to LOOK at what the other side has to say.
Gamers excepted.

Hans
07-20-2015, 07:25 AM
What's the size of the universe Barry? Approximate estimation would suffice.

RWGR
07-20-2015, 08:41 AM
The religious belief is that God started creation with something that resembles the big bang event. They call if fiat Lux in Latin.
The scientific belief is that the big bang was not a God based creation event, but the result of a natural process.

Which in no way negates the fact a Catholic priest came up with the Big Bang Theory, a fact few Atheists know.

RWGR
07-20-2015, 08:48 AM
I get a good laugh out of non-believers who claim believers take such a large leap of faith in believing in God; that such a giant leap makes belief for them an untenable situation.

Yet someone pointed out a while ago that to believe we arrived where we are at today from nothing, by mere happenstance, billions of years of evolution, and good luck, is a giant leap in itself.

It is just as easy to put your faith in the scenario that a rogue twister will rip through a salvage yard, and out of the chaos it produces all the parts needed to assemble an automobile will coalesce, in perfect order, and after the twister has gone a perfectly good automobile would be assembled as a result.

Who's engaging in a laughable leap pf faith?

Barry Morris
07-20-2015, 10:10 AM
What's the size of the universe Barry? Approximate estimation would suffice.

This derailing of a topic is common with you. Some information is presented, that you won't look at or discuss.

An obvious bias when one won't even look at the input.

If you want to ask a non-related question, start a new thread.

dancingqueen
07-20-2015, 05:52 PM
Through an infinite amount chance occurrences is it not possible that one of these occurrences created life as we know it?
It's not like we would be aware of any unsuccessful chance occurrences.

Barry Morris
07-20-2015, 06:58 PM
Through an infinite amount chance occurrences is it not possible that one of these occurrences created life as we know it?
It's not like we would be aware of any unsuccessful chance occurrences.

There are those who would prefer an infinite number of zeros to the idea of intelligent design.