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Bluesky
08-17-2015, 02:42 PM
http://www.newstatesman.com/religion/2009/04/conversion-experience-atheism

Anapeg
08-17-2015, 09:29 PM
He amounts to nothing. Change for change sake. Looking toward future book sales and speaking engagements.

Barry Morris
08-17-2015, 11:23 PM
He amounts to nothing. Change for change sake. Looking toward future book sales and speaking engagements.

Do YOU think he could fool God???

I'm pretty sure he does not.

Anapeg
08-17-2015, 11:35 PM
Do YOU think he could fool God???

I'm pretty sure he does not.

I would question whether he truly believes or not. If, as I suspect, he is nothing more than a player, whether or not one can fool God or not occupies none of this mans time.

Barry Morris
08-18-2015, 12:33 AM
I would question whether he truly believes or not. If, as I suspect, he is nothing more than a player, whether or not one can fool God or not occupies none of this mans time.

I like his thoughts.

The reality of his life is between him and God.

And I certainly can't blame a guy for trying to feed himself.

Anapeg
08-18-2015, 09:24 AM
I like his thoughts.

The reality of his life is between him and God.

And I certainly can't blame a guy for trying to feed himself.

Here you and I differ, I feel Christianity has been greatly damaged, at least in North America, by charlatans, or people feeding themselves as you put it.

Barry Morris
08-18-2015, 10:00 AM
Here you and I differ, I feel Christianity has been greatly damaged, at least in North America, by charlatans, or people feeding themselves as you put it.

I see a huge difference between a charlatan and someone feeding himself.

Certainly, as in all walks of life, there are those whose only desire is their own wealth, power and position. The problem with them is that people like yourself tend to paint all Christians with the same brush (like being a mechanic!! :) :) )

I personally don't get too concerned about it. God doesn't need to have man keep His reputation intact, in fact He knows we'll fail. And those people who take advantage will have their reward!!!

I don't suppose you'd like to discuss just how much some of the leaders of Christianity should be paid???

Anapeg
08-18-2015, 10:29 AM
I see a huge difference between a charlatan and someone feeding himself.

Certainly, as in all walks of life, there are those whose only desire is their own wealth, power and position. The problem with them is that people like yourself tend to paint all Christians with the same brush (like being a mechanic!! :) :) )

I personally don't get too concerned about it. God doesn't need to have man keep His reputation intact, in fact He knows we'll fail. And those people who take advantage will have their reward!!!

I don't suppose you'd like to discuss just how much some of the leaders of Christianity should be paid???

Sure, kick it off and I will follow your lead.

Barry Morris
08-20-2015, 03:41 PM
Site of interest.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/13/clergy-salaries-rabbis-priests-pastors-imams_n_1204870.html

Barry Morris
08-20-2015, 03:44 PM
Or

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/how-much-is-too-much-to-pay-a-pastor_55d4be53e4b0ab468d9f583d?cps=gravity_2677_-9056670293868839804&kvcommref=mostpopular

Barry Morris
08-20-2015, 03:51 PM
Or:

http://www.united-church.ca/files/minstaff/compensation/2015schedule.pdf

RWGR
08-20-2015, 05:37 PM
What an interesting "discussion"