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Hans
11-30-2015, 07:31 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/30/world/blackface-documentary-zwarte-piet-feat/index.html


What? That doesn't ring a bell?

It would if you lived in the Netherlands, where the visit of Sinterklaas and Zwarte Piet on December 5 -- the eve of St. Nicholas' birthday -- is a longstanding tradition. But it's a tradition that's been called into question in recent years, including by Roger Ross Williams, the director of the short film "Blackface," which looks into the character and his past.


I cannot believe they want to do away with this tradition, and take away all the present from the little children.

This is a holiday in Belgium also, not just the Netherlands. He cannot even get that part right.

We should add this to the Station mall as a way to show how Christmas holidays are celebrated around the world.

BFLPE
11-30-2015, 08:27 PM
This is a holiday in Belgium also...Not sure why you would mention that terrorist breeding ground as a defense but I'm with you on the Station Mall thing. :)

Hans
11-30-2015, 08:29 PM
There would be no terrorists in Belgium if the politically correct parties would have looked the other way years ago.

BFLPE
11-30-2015, 09:51 PM
Politically correct usually has unintended consequences.

Hans
11-30-2015, 09:52 PM
I always vote for the correct party. Maybe they will win this time around.

Barry Morris
11-30-2015, 09:56 PM
Traditions can change.

Santa used to be green.

Hans
11-30-2015, 10:01 PM
Than it would not be a tradition now, would it?

RWGR
12-01-2015, 10:39 AM
Santa used to be green.

When? When he drank a lot?

Anapeg
12-01-2015, 12:03 PM
When? When he drank a lot?

After, actually.

Anapeg
12-01-2015, 12:09 PM
Than it would not be a tradition now, would it?

The tradition of Santa is relatively new. It came about in the 1930's as a coca cola advertising campain. Up to that point, he was portrayed as anything from a tall, skinny, cranky look old fart to a horrid little elf. So traditions can change or alter to fit something new and different.

RWGR
12-01-2015, 12:16 PM
The tradition of Santa is relatively new. It came about in the 1930's as a coca cola advertising campain. Up to that point, he was portrayed as anything from a tall, skinny, cranky look old fart to a horrid little elf. So traditions can change or alter to fit something new and different.

True.

The guy that created the version of Santa we know today is the same guy who created the elephant and donkey symbols for the Republican and Democrat parties: Thomas Nast.