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Hans
02-25-2016, 08:17 PM
Children of all ages in Iowa would be allowed to use handguns with adult supervision under a measure approved this week by legislators in the state's Republican-controlled House.

The measure, approved 62-36 on Tuesday with both Republican and Democratic support, would change the current law that forbids anyone under age 14 from using handguns.

Supporters say the bill is meant to bring the law in line with existing law, which allows children to use long guns only with adult supervision.

"I think this is one of the best bills we've done for Second Amendment rights," said State Rep. Jake Highfill, a Republican, during floor debate this week.

"It returns the power back to where it fully belongs -- back in the hands of parents to make those decisions they are entitled to instead of the government," Highfill said.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/25/politics/iowa-handgun-children-under-14-proposal/index.html

Why?

The Chronic Liar
02-25-2016, 08:32 PM
Children of all ages in Iowa would be allowed to use handguns with adult supervision under a measure approved this week by legislators in the state's Republican-controlled House.

The measure, approved 62-36 on Tuesday with both Republican and Democratic support, would change the current law that forbids anyone under age 14 from using handguns.

Supporters say the bill is meant to bring the law in line with existing law, which allows children to use long guns only with adult supervision.

"I think this is one of the best bills we've done for Second Amendment rights," said State Rep. Jake Highfill, a Republican, during floor debate this week.

"It returns the power back to where it fully belongs -- back in the hands of parents to make those decisions they are entitled to instead of the government," Highfill said.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/25/politics/iowa-handgun-children-under-14-proposal/index.html

Why?

With adult supervision.

Hans
02-25-2016, 08:40 PM
Yes, but why? And why would a 4 year old be allowed to use handguns under adult supervision?

Barry Morris
02-25-2016, 08:42 PM
Why not??

It's about parents right to bring up their kids in the way they feel is best.

There are lots of dangerous tools a kid can use. Why not this??

The Chronic Liar
02-25-2016, 08:44 PM
Yes, but why? And why would a 4 year old be allowed to use handguns under adult supervision?

Yes Hans, parents are now going to start handing out guns to their 4 year olds.

Hans
02-25-2016, 08:46 PM
There are some gun nuts who would actually do so.

Hans
02-25-2016, 08:46 PM
Why not??

It's about parents right to bring up their kids in the way they feel is best.

There are lots of dangerous tools a kid can use. Why not this??

A gun is not a tool.

The Chronic Liar
02-25-2016, 08:50 PM
There are some gun nuts who would actually do so.

What's your point?

Hans
02-26-2016, 07:26 AM
Oh nothing, I think every 4 year old should know how to handle handguns. You never know when you might need to take down an evil person.

The Chronic Liar
02-26-2016, 08:56 AM
Oh nothing, I think every 4 year old should know how to handle handguns. You never know when you might need to take down an evil person.

Only under adult supervision of course. Now the person the 4 year old is shooting only counts as adult supervision until he/she takes their last breath and then the toddler would need to whip that gun away real quick.

These scenarios you come up with are just so real. All these gun nuts will just start giving access to guns and saying have at 'er right Hans.

Barry Morris
02-26-2016, 10:16 AM
Only under adult supervision of course. Now the person the 4 year old is shooting only counts as adult supervision until he/she takes their last breath and then the toddler would need to whip that gun away real quick.

These scenarios you come up with are just so real. All these gun nuts will just start giving access to guns and saying have at 'er right Hans.

I wonder if Hans want to set an age, which works SO well with cars!!

Some 16 year olds do fine with cars. Some die.

Barry Morris
02-26-2016, 10:17 AM
A gun is not a tool.

Yes, Hans a gun is a tool.

The Chronic Liar
02-26-2016, 10:24 AM
I wonder if Hans want to set an age, which works SO well with cars!!

Some 16 year olds do fine with cars. Some die.

Hans thinks if the government doesn't set age limits on everything that chaos amongst toddlers will break out.

Hans
02-26-2016, 09:11 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/14/people-are-getting-shot-by-toddlers-on-a-weekly-basis-this-year/

Keep laughing, just remember I always laugh last.

Hans
02-26-2016, 09:14 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/toddlers-shot-victim-week-2015-article-1.2398377

You’re more likely to be shot by an armed toddler than to be struck and killed by lightning.

“It’s not a surprising figure when you consider all of the irresponsible owned guns out there,” Dan Gross, president of Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, told the Daily News. “These tragedies are a symptom of a deeper disease we have in our country: irresponsible gun ownership.”

Many of the 43 toddler shooting cases involved a gun that belonged to the child’s parents, Gross said. He encouraged parents to weight the risks of gun ownership against the rewards when considering bringing a gun into the home and urged those who choose to own guns to take responsible measures to keep the weapons away from kids.

“This highlights [the] role that parents can and should play in the prevention of gun deaths and injuries,” he said. “The answer is so easy. It’s just taking responsibility. Keeping guns out of the hands of the people who shouldn’t have them, including toddlers.”

The National Rifle Association insisted it provides training and programs that help prevent such shootings.

“These deaths are tragic and preventable, which is why no other organization in the world does more than the NRA to the teach the safe and responsible use of firearms," NRA spokesman Jennifer Baker told the Daily News in a statement. "The NRA’s Eddie Eagle GunSafe program has reached over 28 million children and since its inception nearly 30 years ago firearm accident deaths have dropped to an all-time low. The NRA will continue to dedicate resources to education and training programs that save lives.”

Barry Morris
02-29-2016, 09:54 AM
Thanks Hans.

"The NRA’s Eddie Eagle GunSafe program has reached over 28 million children and since its inception nearly 30 years ago firearm accident deaths have dropped to an all-time low"

Say, how many toddlers put cars into motion and killed somebody?? I wonder.