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Hans
03-22-2016, 10:46 PM
Hundreds of illegal immigrants from terror hotspots are using what critics describe as loopholes in U.S. immigration policy to try to remain in the country indefinitely, according to data obtained by Congress.

Taking a page from the playbook used by Central American women and children to gain U.S. entry, hundreds of immigrants from Egypt, Somalia, ****stan, Iran and Syria caught entering the U.S. last year made asylum claims to avoid deportation – and, in doing so, asserted they had a “credible fear of persecution.”

This phrase is important because it allows them to be released and work in the U.S. Prior to 2009, the U.S. held in custody many asylum seekers entering the U.S. illegally until their cases were resolved in court -- but an Obama administration policy change allowed those fearing persecution to be released.

The finding that asylum seekers from turbulent Middle Eastern and African countries are now using this phrase to gain entry and remain on U.S. soil has raised security concerns on Capitol Hill.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/22/immigrants-from-terror-hubs-claiming-credible-fear-to-seek-us-asylum.html?intcmp=hpbt2

RWGR
03-23-2016, 09:12 AM
Really? Belgium's laughable immigration policy isn't more newsworthy at this time?

I understand why you don't want to talk about it, but still.

Hans
03-23-2016, 08:19 PM
The problem is not immigration, but the flood of refugees from Syria and surrounding areas.
The only country that has made any serious attempt to try to stop the Syrian onslaught is Russia. Every other country or organization is not willing to truly engage themselves in the conflict.

In effect, a bunch of terrorist waving black flags and driving Toyota pickup trucks are being feared enough that nobody dares to military wipe them out.
Until someone wakes up and wipes them out, we will see terrorist attacks across the globe.
Hopefully your country is not next on the list.

The Chronic Liar
03-23-2016, 08:22 PM
The problem is not immigration, but the flood of refugees from Syria and surrounding areas.
The only country that has made any serious attempt to try to stop the Syrian onslaught is Russia. Every other country or organization is not willing to truly engage themselves in the conflict.

In effect, a bunch of terrorist waving black flags and driving Toyota pickup trucks are being feared enough that nobody dares to military wipe them out.
Until someone wakes up and wipes them out, we will see terrorist attacks across the globe.
Hopefully your country is not next on the list.

So the problem is with immigration.

Hans
03-23-2016, 08:25 PM
Immigration and refugees are not the same.

The Chronic Liar
03-23-2016, 08:30 PM
I was referring to your second paragraph.

RWGR
03-24-2016, 07:32 AM
The problem is not immigration, but the flood of refugees from Syria and surrounding areas.


Wrong, Hans. The radicals who have now adopted ISIS' mantra have been in Europe for a while now. As the article states, they gravitated towards the places with high unemployment and disaffected people. That led to their radicalization.

Europe will 'tolerate' itself out of existence, because Europe has no backbone.

The Chronic Liar
03-24-2016, 10:17 AM
Wrong, Hans. The radicals who have now adopted ISIS' mantra have been in Europe for a while now. As the article states, they gravitated towards the places with high unemployment and disaffected people. That led to their radicalization.

Europe will 'tolerate' itself out of existence, because Europe has no backbone.

Exactly. How can anyone say with a straight face that the problem is the flood of refugees is the problem. Maybe down the road but this clearly has brewing for a long time.

Hans
03-24-2016, 09:52 PM
So, when was the last time any of you two visited Europe?

Barry Morris
03-24-2016, 09:59 PM
So, when was the last time any of you two visited Europe?

"That is east of here, isn't it??" Average American.

RWGR
03-25-2016, 02:21 PM
BM is angry!! :) :) :)

RWGR
03-25-2016, 02:25 PM
So, when was the last time any of you two visited Europe?

My, my, you sure have been on edge lately. Seems the Belgium bombings have shaken you out of your delusion that Europe is safe from terror because it's, well, Europe.

I've got news for you, friend: Europe is ground zero right now because it is Europe.

You've lambasted and lampooned the US response to terror for years.Now it hits in your homeland, and you're dizzy with it all.Now all of the sudden criticizing a country you do not live in is seen as wrong.

How convenient.

The Chronic Liar
03-25-2016, 03:03 PM
So, when was the last time any of you two visited Europe?

Not since it became the hotbed of terror.

Hans
03-25-2016, 09:27 PM
And those are the responses, exactly as I thought they would be.
You both do not disappoint.

The Chronic Liar
03-26-2016, 01:20 AM
And those are the responses, exactly as I thought they would be.
You both do not disappoint.

It is undeniable. The fact you expect the truth is a good thing. Once your brain overtakes your emotion, you will be fine.

RWGR
03-26-2016, 09:00 AM
So,Hans,are you willing to go on record to say that any European who has not been to the USA (and I would think that would be about 95% of them) is not allowed to criticize US foreign policy as it relates to terrorism?

Hans
03-26-2016, 07:23 PM
No, but I would say you cannot judge a country until you have visited it and observed its inhabitants.

RWGR
03-27-2016, 11:26 AM
LOL. so you would say that any European who has not been to the USA (and I would think that would be about 95% of them) is not allowed to criticize US foreign policy as it relates to terrorism

The Chronic Liar
03-27-2016, 11:40 AM
No, but I would say you cannot judge a country until you have visited it and observed its inhabitants.

Yeah you can't judge a country where all the terrorists go to plan everything because we've never been there before. You're on a roll Hans. Keep it going because I haven't seen this much logic since that Sock character.

The Chronic Liar
03-27-2016, 11:44 AM
Wait wait wait I got it. We found the matching sock.

Hans
03-27-2016, 07:38 PM
Yeah you can't judge a country where all the terrorists go to plan everything because we've never been there before. You're on a roll Hans. Keep it going because I haven't seen this much logic since that Sock character.

It helps if you think before you post.

2,996 deaths and injuries of +6,000 in 1 terrorist attack. Should we make the statement that all terrorists go to the USA to plan everything?
Or should we say that you cannot judge a country until you have visited it and observed its ingabitants?

The Chronic Liar
03-27-2016, 08:35 PM
It helps if you think before you post.

2,996 deaths and injuries of +6,000 in 1 terrorist attack. Should we make the statement that all terrorists go to the USA to plan everything?
Or should we say that you cannot judge a country until you have visited it and observed its ingabitants?

It helps if you think before you post. I said plan...not commit terror attacks.

Hans
03-27-2016, 08:42 PM
You say a lot, does not mean it makes a lot of sense.

The Chronic Liar
03-27-2016, 08:49 PM
You say a lot, does not mean it makes a lot of sense.

People from Brussels say it's a terrorist hotspot. You're in denial and that's fine.

RWGR
03-30-2016, 11:25 AM
An image from a few days ago in Brussels

https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/pNNcC2eL4p7VAsseh0lxxvcaveY=/0x0:3551x2367/1310x873/filters:format(webp)/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/49140953/GettyImages-516941824.0.jpg

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/22/11284558/brussels-attack-europe-isis-terrorism

If this was a street in NYC, Hans would be beside himself

Hans
03-30-2016, 07:53 PM
An image from a few days ago in Brussels

https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/pNNcC2eL4p7VAsseh0lxxvcaveY=/0x0:3551x2367/1310x873/filters:format(webp)/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/49140953/GettyImages-516941824.0.jpg

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/22/11284558/brussels-attack-europe-isis-terrorism

If this was a street in NYC, Hans would be beside himself

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xd/142390035.mp4?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=2549FB43098C7F206C0D1682D817453EB39604DF9ABFC168 4724F3B97B3274BFA0FD3FE91F81BDA7

RWGR
03-31-2016, 12:50 PM
Two sets of rules

That's why no one looks to Europe for leadership anymore. Her ship sailed long, long ago.

Hans
03-31-2016, 09:20 PM
I can almost taste your anger.

RWGR
04-01-2016, 01:29 PM
It's so easy to sit back and criticize US policy at every turn. Yet, when the other shoe drops...

Security failures rock Belgian government

https://euobserver.com/justice/132809

RWGR
04-01-2016, 01:31 PM
Belgium must accept failure of its open-border policies

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/belgium-must-accept-failure-of-its-openborder-policies/news-story/fc52afcb4629d9cb9bd07b04052c99d8

RWGR
04-01-2016, 04:26 PM
Breathtaking incompetence




Police at the Belgium airport where last week’s attacks happened are going on strike. The SLFP police union told the BBC on Friday their members had no desire going back on the job because of security concerns.

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/04/01/brussels-airport-police-union-goes-on-strike-over-security-concerns/



As many as 50 ISIS supporters have infiltrated the same Brussels airport where terror attacks occurred last month, working as cleaners, caterers and baggage handlers and positioning themselves for new attacks, the Belgian police union warned in an open letter to the government.

“Even today, there are at least 50 supporters of ISIS who work at the airport,” read the letter from union secretary Alain Peeters to the Belgian Interior Ministry and reported by the Daily Mail. “They have a security badge and have access to the cockpit of a plane.”

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/04/01/50-isis-sympathizers-working-at-brussels-airport-warns-police-union.html

RWGR
04-01-2016, 04:27 PM
How's that openness and tolerance workin' out for you, Europe??

Hans
04-01-2016, 09:00 PM
Still angry, going on 2 days now.

RWGR
04-02-2016, 11:14 AM
Not angry, not even surprised.

Europe failed...that's not even news

Hans
04-02-2016, 08:32 PM
No news but yet you cannot stop talking about it.
Clearly you are still angry on day 3.

Reckidecky
04-03-2016, 03:40 PM
Not really sure why your denying, or avoiding the obvious? Honestly.

History has taught me multiculturalism is a Liberal utopia that is a complete fallacy. Yet they tried still, as painful as it has become. The EU is a failure, and the beginning to dismantling it will be in the hands of Britain. There actually was a reason for borders and sovereignty among countries. We are seeing the reasons why now. Provided there isn't a fixed vote, the Brits may regain their sovereignty, and hopefully, it happens in succession, country by country. Canada included. Would be the start, to the best we could hope for...IMO.

Hans
04-03-2016, 07:20 PM
The EU is not going to fail because it provides more benefits than negatives.
It is common for people to focus on the negatives, yet not mention the positives.

Reckidecky
04-03-2016, 11:08 PM
Hardly think open boarders can be seen as positive. What positives might you be referring to?

Hans
04-03-2016, 11:59 PM
For one they have 1 currency as opposed to each having their own. This is very important for traveling and commerce in general.
You can freely purchase what you want, where you want. Imagine being able to freely purchase in the USA and not having to declare your purchased good at the border when reentering Canada?
No wait to cross into another country because there are no border checks. No passports or other ID required upon crossing the country line.

Many things are unified across member states, like ID, drivers licenses, etc...
You can freely work, live and attend school in any EU member state. No work permits or visa's needed.

I cannot imagine going back to the system like it was before.

RWGR
04-04-2016, 09:14 AM
No news but yet you cannot stop talking about it.
Clearly you are still angry on day 3.

The fact a major airport in Belgium cannot full open because its infested with ISIS sympathizers is not news??

I guess after throwing the world into two of the bloodiest wars in human history the last century it only makes sense that Europeans would have their heads firmly implanted in the sand at this point.

Reckidecky
04-04-2016, 12:01 PM
Well, hardly think that using a single currency merits open borders. Even Prior to the EU, driving was permitted in varying countries, no? The other currencies are still circulating and can be used too, no? Hardly another valid positive proposal for giving up sovereignty. Not to mention the obvious security risks. Or are you saying that less security is better because you don't have to carry a passport or declare goods? Far from a good trade but, Europeans are entitled to whichever type of society they want. Eventually there is going to be a push back though, I think. Countries seem to be getting tired of open borders and lost sovereignty quickly.

Hans
04-04-2016, 04:26 PM
The fact a major airport in Belgium cannot full open because its infested with ISIS sympathizers is not news??

I guess after throwing the world into two of the bloodiest wars in human history the last century it only makes sense that Europeans would have their heads firmly implanted in the sand at this point.

Still angry on day 4. You never stop amazing me.

Hans
04-04-2016, 04:29 PM
Well, hardly think that using a single currency merits open borders. Even Prior to the EU, driving was permitted in varying countries, no? The other currencies are still circulating and can be used too, no? Hardly another valid positive proposal for giving up sovereignty. Not to mention the obvious security risks. Or are you saying that less security is better because you don't have to carry a passport or declare goods? Far from a good trade but, Europeans are entitled to whichever type of society they want. Eventually there is going to be a push back though, I think. Countries seem to be getting tired of open borders and lost sovereignty quickly.

Well, if you look at the examples of the USA and our own Canada, you will see it exists of provinces, or states. Any of those could have been a separate country, but they banded together because they realized the benefits.
Imagine if every province in Canada had borders, their own currency, their own laws and regulations? Would you prefer that over the current layout of Canada?

RWGR
04-04-2016, 05:59 PM
Still angry on day 4. You never stop amazing me.

It's better that you all keep your heads buried deep in the sand, while the adults (US and Canada) take it from here

Hans
04-04-2016, 08:30 PM
Am I to assume you will still be angry tomorrow?

Reckidecky
04-05-2016, 01:23 PM
Well, if you look at the examples of the USA and our own Canada, you will see it exists of provinces, or states. Any of those could have been a separate country, but they banded together because they realized the benefits.
Imagine if every province in Canada had borders, their own currency, their own laws and regulations? Would you prefer that over the current layout of Canada?

With how the Federal government is managing Canada, harbouring and appeasing refugees and our enemies,, spending billions over seas while ignoring Canada, all the perpetual whining out of Quebec, the disaster with which Alberta is being mismanaged and the fact that now, what was once the economic engine of Canada, Ontario, now a destroyed and desimated economy burdened in debt thanks to numerous other mismanaged provinces, it has hardly worked out for the collective better now has it. Canada has slowly become an embarrassment, full of lazy, complacent, liberal, left wing, socialist, seemingly entitled populace that is borderline communist and has become an arm of US Democrats and is well on the way to becoming the 51st state.

RWGR
04-05-2016, 05:58 PM
Am I to assume you will still be angry tomorrow?

Hopefully that goes better than the "We're European, everyone loves us, even terrorists!" assumption you once held!

Hans
04-08-2016, 09:00 PM
Ohh, I come back from Montreal and you are still angry!

RWGR
04-09-2016, 09:19 AM
and you are still avoiding the issue

No wonder why

Hans
04-09-2016, 06:29 PM
I am not avoiding anything, I am simply stating you look angry.