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Here is an interesting, fairly recent survey.
Wonder what this does to Christopher Hitchen's assertion that Atheism is vibrant and growing in the West.
I think McGrath was right when he stated that this spate of books that have come out recently was really intended to bolster the flagging number of atheists, not to dissuade theists. In other words, Hitchens et al are preaching to the choir.
09-16-2007, 05:24 PM
This is not suprising to me at all... Most people have a hard time accepting that this is it, myself included. Sh may ave had a hard time coming up with the numbers but I think my dog could have told you this /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
09-16-2007, 11:10 PM
I am athiest and proud of it. I dont believe in God or any other religious figure. Science has proven the evolution of man and the generation of Earth.
09-17-2007, 10:55 AM
by defiying it's own law of the creation of matter? I don't belive it.
(Yes, I use that one alot, but it is where the puzzle begins making no sense, untill that can make sence to me, I will be able to move on from point "A")
09-17-2007, 08:11 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Canadian13</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Science has proven the evolution of man and the generation of Earth. </div></div>
Care to share that proof with the group? Science has proven that the Universe works differently when we observe it, than it does on it's own. Time and space may be a huge illusion...try to prove that it's not. Shroedinger's cat as one example.
Are you saying that the Principle of Uncertainty applies to the observation of the universe? I always assumed that Heisenberg's principle only applies at the atomistic level, where the act of observing alters the thing observed..
09-17-2007, 08:33 PM
I dunno, but I'd assume that since we are all made up of sub-atomic particles...and it's impossible for us to observe ourselves without perhaps changing the obsevation...
Really, I'm just saying that we still have a long way to go before we can "prove" anything.
Reminds me of the 1st yr philosophy student who smugly challenged his prof with the question: "Can you prove to me that I exist?"
The prof looked over his glasses back at him and countered, "And whom, shall I say, is asking?"
09-18-2007, 10:49 PM
I wonder what percentage of random events might constitute a certainty.
I've certainly had my share of sequential coincdidences occur, to disbelieve any thought of atheism. I have "heard" God "speak", not in the words of our normal senses, but clearly nonetheless.
Last night I heard "Who do you think is bowling when it thunders?" The Colbert Report I think, but I noticed it.
One just needs to listen.
Sometime if I have a tough decision to make, I'll ask a question, and then turn on the next radio around me, and the answer is usually the first thing I hear. Not that I always want to do the right thing...sometimes I do my own thing, but it never turns out as well. Strange, but true.
And I think that as the internet brings us together, we're gonna find out the how and why of it, but for now, I'm content to believe in a higher power, whatever He or She or me may be.
I really hear people say PROVE IT, when explaining how everything was created.
Science proves the evolution of man. PROVE IT LOL
Prove it wasn't!
You can't PROVE it wasn't, by saying "because God made us and the universe" Because you can't prove God exists, it is just a beleif.
So if your in the right, because you beleive God created the earth, why not respect others and let them beleif it all up to science?
Either way, no one can prove; really prove, how the universe was created. So it is a dead subject.
We live in an era where there is such a postmodern attitude present in everything. gods are quite okay, but as soon as the Judeo Christian God is raised, we hear the mantra, "Prove it!"
There is something inherently contradictory in the request coming from a postmodern to prove anything.
09-22-2007, 02:10 AM
Sooner or later though, everyone needs to "prove" themselves. "I am" because someone said so just doesn't cut it.
"I am" because I say so doesn't do it either.
What if I prove that you don't exist T-pot? What then? Will you dissapear in a puff of smoke? Or maybe it will be like you were never here at all.
The fact is that we still have a missing link, and that casts a doubt.
Proof is beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Paradoxes are contradictory.
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