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"Stitched from a revolution and secured through compromise, Belgium's fragile fabric is unraveling and the impossible - the country's partition - is suddenly becoming imaginable."
LINK (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/10/12/MNB6SEM9K.DTL)
Return of Too Many Daves
10-13-2007, 02:01 PM
Is this such a bad thing? I for one would love to see the Brits get rid of those damn Scots.
As usual, Speedy is blabbering just to blabber.
In the meantime, a US senator is trying very hard to expand a popular children's health insurance plan.
Of course, in Belgium every child is fully covered for medical needs.
"Every Republican must decide whether they will stand with the president and his veto, or stand with our children and their right to a healthy future"
The program provides health insurance to children in families with incomes too great for Medicaid eligibility but not enough to afford private insurance. Bush has said the bill is too costly, goes beyond the program's original intent and shifts too much insurance burden onto the government rather than private providers.
As you can see, Medicaid does not cover everyone, like Speedy has been stating a billion times. He's simply lying, or does not know his own country's health care system.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/13/dems.radio.ap/index.html
"The program provides health insurance to children in families with incomes too great for Medicaid eligibility but not enough to afford private insurance."
NEXT!!
Expand a popular children's health insurance plan = include more people who currently fall between Medicaid and private insurance.
NEXT!!
More Americans are becoming wealthy, and making too much money to qualify for Medicare.
NEXT!!
To much to qualify for Medicaid, not enough to afford private insurance = no health insurance.
NEXT!!
Too much to qualify for Medicaid, not enough to afford private insurance = SHIP medical care.
NEXT!!
So, all these children that this Senator is trying to get on this program by extending this program, are all covered under SHIP?
NEXT!!
Yup!!
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I figured you were unable to back it up.
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sniderscott2
10-14-2007, 02:37 PM
no no no hans, its wrong to provide your poor with adequate care... when you can spend it on killing people!
sniderscott2
10-14-2007, 02:37 PM
instead of providing them with healthcare, sign them up for the army!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PunK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">no no no hans, its wrong to provide your poor with adequate care... when you can spend it on killing people! </div></div>
Or, we could be like Canada, and leave ten million people with doctors, give mediocre (at best) care to those who do get it, make them wait 17 months for important surgery, AND have a laughingstock for a military.
I'll take the U.S. option, but thanks anyways.
My father-in-law had knee replacement within 2 months.
My mother in law, only had to wait 1 month to see octologist for a growth on her eye.
Family friend, had to wait 3 weeks for cancer treatment.
Define important surgery that Canadians have to wait for, and please back it up with proof.
Anything else, your just blowing smoke, like always.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Arrogant Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Stitched from a revolution and secured through compromise, Belgium's fragile fabric is unraveling and the impossible - the country's partition - is suddenly becoming imaginable."
LINK (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/10/12/MNB6SEM9K.DTL)
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Here you go Speedy, just to prove you were blabbering about nothing for the past few weeks.
Herman Van Rompuy, verkenner en zeer nauw betrokken bij de lopende onderhandelingen over een nieuwe regering, verwacht dat België op 30 november een nieuwe federale regering zal hebben. Van Rompuy zei dat op Studio Brussel.
De oranje-blauwe partners hebben afgelopen nacht een eerste akkoord bereikt. Maar blijkbaar verwacht Van Rompuy niet dat de gesprekken nu in een stroomversnelling zullen geraken. Hij denkt dat ons land op 30 november een nieuwe federale regering zal hebben.
Soundbear
10-15-2007, 03:31 PM
Let's see, how long did I wait for repair to a detached retina??? As long as it took to drive the specialist in London.
Diagnosis 11 AM Monday, surgery 5 PM Tuesday.
Whoa.. was that painful, Barry?
What were your symptoms?
Did you see "men as trees walking" ?
Soundbear
10-15-2007, 07:23 PM
Nope, not painful. When the retina detaches, it's like a curtain RISING, by sections from the bottom of your vision area. Looks rather weird because our eyes work upside down, that is what you see "up" is is seen with the bottom of the retina.
It actually followed a lens replacement for a cataract. Maybe what the doctor meant by "normal activities" and what I meant were two different things. Anyway, if you ever have a lens replaced, take it easy for a couple of weeks.
Yeah, doing push-ups with your eyelids is not NORMAL.
peterparker_sault
10-15-2007, 11:58 PM
LOL... actually the US has a very interesting social health care program. It's called... if you need medical attention, you go the hospital, who BY LAW can not deny you service. Then when the bill comes you ignore it. Eventually, they will get sick of hounding you (usually about 8 months) and will let it go. Because no debt buyer (also known as collection agencies) will touch medical paper any more, as it is considered noncollectable after 16 weeks (on average). Some agencies will still purchase it from hospitals at about $0.10 on the dollar, but most won't bother. No comes the fun part... your credit report... National Credit Reporting agencies quit attaching medical expenses to credit reports about 14 years ago... So... you see the doctor, get treatment, and don't pay, and nothing happens... The hospital gets a tax incentive for writing it off, sponsored by, you guessed the government... BOOM Socialized Medicine... NEXT!
Soundbear
10-16-2007, 08:47 AM
"Socialized Medicine"
AHA!!!
MagicFingers
10-16-2007, 09:45 AM
Yeah unless you have some long term medical illness such as cancer and once you aren't paying your bills I doubt they are giving you the more costly effective treatment and simply treating the pain at little cost.
"In 1974 Belgium recognized Islam as a state-supported religion. Today, the country is considered one of the most xenophobic in Western Europe.
A series of violent racist acts in the last few years has caused the once peaceful co-existence of natives and immigrants in Belgium to start to come apart at the seams. International comparative studies describe the nation, not even 180 years old yet, as the most xenophobic in Western Europe.
LINK (http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/muslims_in_belgium_only_integrated_on_the_surface/0014801)
Congrats, Hans
Things are going just swimmingly in Belgium! Look here LINK (http://www.expatica.com/actual/article.asp?subchannel_id=24&story_id=44915)
It's so funny when Speedy posts a link without reading it. So, I will post the various stories from Speedy's above link followed by the real story.
Just to show how easy it is for Speedy to get lost on the internet.
Here we go!
1. The first striking piece of news was that, somehow, Suez managed to mislay 1,800 of its workers.This seems to me a staggering piece of negligence. To lose one or two on a work trip or three or four in a particularly problematic visit to an experimental factory is almost excusable but nearly 2,000 missing employees is unforgivable. Where are they? All hiding in a hangar somewhere or have they gone underground rather than work for the company? I have already started the campaign Free The Suez 1,800.
1. 12 October 2007
BRUSSELS - The French energy giant Suez, which also controls a large part of the Belgian energy market, is looking for 1,800 workers in Belgium. The company is looking for 1,500 blue collar workers and 300 management staff.
Full story at flandersnews.be
2. Hope is at hand, however, in the shape of the nation’s seers, the clairvoyants setting up tent at fairs or running their business from the back kitchen over supermarket waffles and warm blanche. Seven percent of public go to clairvoyant. Surely if they are worthy of their spiritual claims they can find 1,800 people, though summoning them all at once would be difficult. Perhaps hiring Foret National would be a good idea, get the séance over in one go.
2.In a press release on Thursday the Investigation and Information Centre for Consumer Organisations (OIVO) warned about misleading business practices of clairvoyants and healers.
This is why the OIVO want a special regulatory framework (with more transparency in the business practices) as well as in the area of inspections.
3.Just when you thought Belgium was relatively inexpensive (if you’re from Britain or Scandinavia, but expensive if you're from the rest of Europe) Supermarket prices up by 30 percent. Prices will rise from 3 to 30 percent due to the rise in the costs of raw materials. A winter of discontent is clearly on the cards, there you at Christmas hungry and cold, sitting in the pitch dark in your freezing house in the Flemish Ardennes as it topples spectacularly downhill. And the next generation won’t be much happier either when they read the headline. School from age of five.
3.BRUSSELS – Shopping will become a lot more expensive in the coming months. Colruyt expects a few hundred basic products to increase in price by 3 to 30 percent. Aldi will possibly follow the same line of action.
This is an international phenomenon, as a result of the continuing increase in the price of raw materials.
In Belgium there is no escape either, says commercial director Jean-Pierre Roelands of Colruyt. Some prices have already gone up, but there will be a strong upward shift in the coming months. Colruyt fears that foodstuffs based on grain, milk, oils and fats will increase in price by 3 to 30 percent. "But we will stick to the lowest prices," says Roelands.
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Things aren't so grand, after all, in your little hamlet, are they???
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Arrogant Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"In 1974 Belgium recognized Islam as a state-supported religion. Today, the country is considered one of the most xenophobic in Western Europe.
A series of violent racist acts in the last few years has caused the once peaceful co-existence of natives and immigrants in Belgium to start to come apart at the seams. International comparative studies describe the nation, not even 180 years old yet, as the most xenophobic in Western Europe.
LINK (http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/muslims_in_belgium_only_integrated_on_the_surface/0014801)
Congrats, Hans </div></div>
Speedy, did you really want me to respond to your absurd links? It's just going to make you look like an uninformed person who's desperately trying to make some kind of point.
From that same link you posted above, which is called http://www.theamericanmuslim.org (funny!):
You will notice that for some reason all of the below is still not enough and they demand "more"
Belgium’s incrementally reformed naturalization laws are viewed as some of the most liberal in all of Europe. Children of immigrants born in the country, children with at least one Belgian parent, and all who have lived longer than seven years in the country have the right to acquire Belgian citizenship. Foreigners living in the country legally for longer than three years can participate in local elections even without a Belgian passport.
Since 1998 the “Muslim Executive of Belgium,” a committee of elected representatives of the country’s Muslim communities, has been acting as the official voice of the Muslim population. Many Muslims have criticized this body, however, claiming that it has not exactly done its job of standing up for the rights of all Muslims living in Belgium and working to fight discrimination.
Muslims are represented in the highest political offices, with Muslim-sounding names found on every ballot. But when it comes to equal treatment on the job market or when looking for an apartment, Belgium’s Muslims often complain of discrimination.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Arrogant Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You're starting to sweat, Hans /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
Things aren't so grand, after all, in your little hamlet, are they??? </div></div>
Speedy, you honestly have not a clue about Belgium and Belgian Politics. Might I suggest you read some real information on this subject instead of randomly copying nonsense information?
Thank you.
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