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    In the ever-deepening crisis of Canada becoming a police state, Catholics have now run afoul of the thought and speech police:

    "In subjecting Catholic Insight magazine to investigation on baseless charges of homophobia, the Canadian Human Rights Commission is once again trampling upon the very human rights and fundamental freedoms it is supposed to uphold. The sooner this oppressive Commission and its provincial counterparts are abolished, the better.

    Catholic Insight is the latest in a long line of publications to run afoul of Canada's human rights commissions. Among the other victims are Maclean's magazine, The Western Standard, the Calgary Herald and the Saskatoon Star Phoenix. Some journalists have been so intimidated by Canada's human rights thought police that they no longer dare to publish anything that might offend the sensibilities of Muslim zealots, homosexual activists or any other group that qualifies for special treatment in the freedom-stifling, federal and provincial, human rights codes that have sprung up over the past 50 years.

    Yet it's open season on the Catholic Church for anti-Catholic bigots. No Canadian human rights commission has ever reprimanded anyone for expressing hatred or contempt for Christianity. To the contrary, as the attack on Catholic Insight indicates, these commissions have specialized in attacking Canadians who uphold the traditional principles of Judeo-Christian morality.

    In 2005, the Alberta Human Rights Commission placed Catholic Bishop Fred Henry of Calgary under investigation for opposing same-sex marriage in a pastoral letter and a column in the Calgary Herald. Following several months of harassment, the Commission dropped the case when the two complainants against him withdrew their charges.

    Stephen Boissoin has not been so fortunate. After a five-year investigation, he was found on November, 30, 2007, by an Alberta Human Rights Panel to have expressed hatred and contempt for homosexuals in a letter to the editor of the Red Deer Advocate that he wrote in his capacity as a Baptist minister. Among the statements held against Boissoin was his warning : "From kindergarten class and on, our children, your grandchildren are being strategically targeted, psychologically abused and brainwashed by homosexual and pro-homosexual educators."

    Such rulings have sent a chill through faithful clerics throughout the country. In testimony before the Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional affairs on July 13, 2005 , Marc Cardinal Ouellet, the primate of Canada, said: "A kind of climate is developing [in Canada] in which people no longer dare say what they think. Even from the pulpit, we feel threatened if we recall the sexual morality of the Church. That is also part of religious freedom. Even in our churches, these words are troubling, and we feel accused of homophobia, hatred of or hurting homosexuals."

    Of course, not all clerics have reason to fear oppression by a human rights tribunal: Liberals who have embraced the gay rights ideology are quite safe. Indeed, some trendy clerics have abetted the human rights inquisitors in oppressing their faithful fellow Christians.

    A notorious case in point is The Very Rev. Dr. Bruce McLeod, former moderator of the United Church of Canada. In 2001, he testified before the Ontario human rights tribunal against Scott Brockie, an Evangelical Protestant, who was subsequently found guilty of discriminating against homosexuals for having refused on religious grounds to print materials for the Canadian [censored] and Gay Archives.

    It will ever be thus, it seems. Down through the centuries, faithful Christians have been persecuted by heretics who conform their thinking to the current pattern of the world rather than uphold that good and acceptable and perfect word of God as revealed in Sacred Scripture.

    Father Alphonse de Valk, the editor of Catholic Insight, is made of stern stuff. He can be counted upon not to capitulate under pressure by the Canadian Human Rights Commission, but to stand firm in upholding the truths of Christian faith and morality as authoritatively expounded by the sacred magisterium of the Catholic Church.

    And in doing so, Father de Valk should have the solid support of all Canadians who affirm the inalienable rights of all people to freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression. Certainly, conscientious Christians should never fail in their duty to defend and affirm the faith in public after the manner urged by Abraham Lincoln: "With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right."

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    Oh there it is.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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    Now, care to apologize for your childish new thread (Article not Anti Catholic enough for Speedy) over at Religion?





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    Why are people always persecuting Catholics ("down through the centuries")? Catholics never persecute anybody else.

    Also why the hell should Catholics be bound by the same laws as everybody else?

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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Return of Too Many Daves</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why are people always persecuting Catholics ("down through the centuries")? Catholics never persecute anybody else.

    Also why the hell should Catholics be bound by the same laws as everybody else? </div></div>

    HAHAHA guess you dont know your history buddy. And nice link, straight from the mouth of the biggest "religious organization" and richest spearhead of the world.

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    Why are people always persecuting Catholics ("down through the centuries")? Catholics never persecute anybody else.


    That's a wonderful and intelligent response. In grade school, that argument kind of went like this: "I know you are, but what am I??"

    And as to the beauty of someone from the country with the most imperialistic and abusive past in human history bemoaning the abuses of other people or entities, well, what can I say...


    Also why the hell should Catholics be bound by the same laws as everybody else?

    In other words, you read half the article.

    What it is saying, David, is that that the monstrosity known as a 'human rights' commission in Canada is going down the very road its critics contended it would.

    A year ago, the critics of the human rights commission in Canada said it was simply a cover-up to stifle free speech (it has been). They also said the commission would abuse its power by stifling speech at the pulpit (it has). The critics also said the commission would define "hate speech" as anything that questions the alarming rate at which Canada is abandoning any connection to its Judeo-Christian/Western heritage (again, it has).

    No one said Catholics shouldn't be held to the same laws as everyone else (the strawman you created). What I'm saying is that when the so-called human rights commission of Canada begins telling preachers and priests what they can and cannot say, yet at the same time declare they cannot do anything about anti-Christian speech because it is 'free speech', then obviously the issue is not about Catholics following rules; it's about the human rights commission having a fair and unbiased set of rules, of which it most certainly does not.

    So far, its targets have been primarily conservative authors (Mark Steyn), conservative magazines (The Western Standard), and Christians.

    Geez, what a surprise.

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    Stop picking on the Catholics you bigot.

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    Hello? One Catholic and two Protestants.. how is it that when two out of three characters in this story about persecution turns into a Catholic thread? No fair! [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

    Protestants want equal time for equal persecution, I say.

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    Speedy you sure you ain't a duck? Quack, quack, quack.

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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Arrogant Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now, care to apologize for your childish new thread (Article not Anti Catholic enough for Speedy) over at Religion?





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    Peace and harmony are not words you can understand.

    As to the thread, I was pretty sure it STARTED over in religion, disappeared then mysteriously appeared here. Sorry.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedy the Arrogant Parrot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">..And as to the beauty of someone from the country with the most imperialistic and abusive past in human history bemoaning the abuses of other people or entities, well, what can I say...

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    I thought Dave was English, not American.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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    Barry, sometimes even your closest allies in here wince, and move on...

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    oh woe is me.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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    I'm sure they feel that once in a while, too.

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