Ya notice a few posts disappeared??
Ya notice a few posts disappeared??
''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''
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OK, but if somebody calls YOU a rabid anti-whatever bigot, I'll come to YOUR defence!!!
''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
OK, but if somebody calls YOU a rabid anti-whatever bigot, I'll come to YOUR defence!!! </div></div>
Ahh, I missed that part.
Hey, If somebody calls me that, I'll wear it proudly.
Count it all joy..
Oh I would too, but this was just untrue.
''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''
catholic church pays better
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Allen Hunt, a pastor of the third largest Methodist Church in the USA, has announced his upcoming river crossing:
January 2008
After much prayer and meditation over the past six months, I have shared with Bishop Lindsey Davis that I am relinquishing my status as an ordained United Methodist pastor in the North Georgia Conference. This deeply personal decision reflects my sense that God has called me to serve in a new mission role. Moreover, I believe that God has led me to a new spiritual home in the Catholic Church, so I have made provision to be received as a member into that Church. Anita plans to continue her ministry with children in the United Methodist Church, and I naturally will continue to support her and that ministry with my prayers and my regular volunteer service. I pray God's blessings on my brothers and sisters in ministry in the United Methodist Church, particularly the wonderful family of believers at Mount Pisgah.
Allen
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Catholic priests are paupers compared to their Evangelical brothers.
Oh, yeah sure.
Proof?
Links??
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Of course, one reason for that is that evangelicals actually support their churches with tithing.
''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''
Protestant tithing: giving enough money to their preachers to ensure multi-million dollar homes, numerous automobiles, and a vacation house on three continents.
Just like Jesus would have wanted.
Haha.. I wish..
What...only two houses?
Who me?
'Fraid not. Only 1 small 2 bedroom shack by the beach..
The guest house?
The house Ay lives in Toronto is owned by the church not by him.
His house is a cottage really up north. Teachers make more money and have more benefits and holidays than most pastors, excluding the Benny Hinn types of course.
Indeed. The vast majority of pastors are WAY underpaid considering their educational levels and workload. No other professional is on call 24/7.
Are priests??
''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''
Most of my contemporaries own a house worth 300K to 750K, but they also carry huge debt loads and live under pressures that I would find impossible to bear if I was expected to service that kind of debt as well as having the energy to minister to others.
I understand why a vow of poverty is good for the minstry.
I am comforted by the fact that when my contemporaries die and I die, we will all start off once again, with the same balance. And at that point, only our riches in Christ will count.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Indeed. The vast majority of pastors are WAY underpaid considering their educational levels and workload. No other professional is on call 24/7.
Are priests?? </div></div>
No, Barry, priests are on a time clock. If you need them at 3 AM, for example, you either must wait until 8:00 AM, or pay double-time.
That darn priest union really screwed things up!
haha!
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