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    DON'T RESPOND IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HELP! I DONT WANT TO HEAR "bring it to the shop." I cant afford to keep bringing it in to the shop. I just want another opinion!

    So, my car wouldn't start after I got a jump start, I let it run for like half an hour.. And turned it off, then when I needed it, it wouldn't start. So got it towed to Canadian Tire, and they said it was the battery, so it was replaced..
    That was 2 days ago.
    Now, the same thing is happening, what could it be?
    I turn the ignition, and it just doesn't want to start. And, then it clicks? And does nothing. (sigh)
    Cant keep a secret, if it never was a secret to start..

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    Did they check your alternator?

    Could it be a bad connection with one of the cables to the battery?

    Starter?

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    I dont think they checked the alternator or the starter..

    How do I check the connection from the cables to the battery?
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    Would someone go over and look at it for her she's been posting this for a week give her a break already. I would Kittie but I can't fix a toaster let alone a car. LOL. Good luck.

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    LOL!

    Thanks Susy! I have like, NO clue what to do.. or anything!
    I can put oil in.. Thats it! LOL.
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    Default Re: battery - back yard mechanic?

    sounds like you have something drawing power or a bunk altenator



    have you driven it over the last few days?




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    i turn the key, and while i'm holding the key the lights come on by the spedometer the oil one and all those.. and the seatbelt. and it will make a sound like its going to start.. and then it just fades out and clicks.
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    yeah! I drove it till yesterday! and today I went to go out to get milk, and it just wouldn't start!
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    sounds like alternator is on its way out
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    hmm.

    how much is that gonna cost??
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kittie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">hmm.

    how much is that gonna cost?? </div></div>

    depends on what kind of car, size of engine

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    Probably around $180 plus a core charge if it's what I think it is.

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    its a hyundai accent. 4 door. 2001
    that's all i know.

    thanks so much for your help Padman. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
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    Getting the alternator rebuit at Total Electric on Bruce St would be cheaper than getting a new one.

    I agree that it sounds like the alternator is likely sus[pect.

    BTW, a lot, if not most, vehicle's won't charge while running at a normal idle.

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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kittie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> So got it towed to Canadian Tire, </div></div>

    That was your first mistake.

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kittie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> they said it was the battery, so it was replaced..
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    They should have tested the alternator while they were at it if they did the job properly. Obviously they didn't.

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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Short _Circutz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Getting the alternator rebuit at Total Electric on Bruce St would be cheaper than getting a new one.

    I agree that it sounds like the alternator is likely sus[pect.

    BTW, a lot, if not most, vehicle's won't charge while running at a normal idle. </div></div>

    Dead wrong Short. A car should show about 14.5 volts on a meter at idle - always!!!
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    hey Barry your wrong about the readings. readings for a charging system very from car to car. on average most systems read between 14.0 to 14.2 some older systems did not go over 13.5

    In all my years I have not seen many systems 14.5 or over unless there is a problem with the voltage regulator or ifthe battery is extremely low. Then you will see higher then average readings till the battery comes up.
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dead wrong Short. A car should show about 14.5 volts on a meter at idle - always!!! </div></div>

    Charging System Basics:


    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> As long as the engine is running, all of the power for the accessories is delivered by the alternator. The battery is actually a load on the charging system. The only time that the battery would supply power with the engine running is when the current capacity of the alternator is exceeded or when engine is at a very low idle. </div></div>

    A charging system diagnosis case history

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Step 1: Check the simple things first. Low output voltage could mean a slipping belt, bad connection, low idle speed, etc.</div></div>

    The Battery and Its Function

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Battery's Job

    Primarily, the battery's function is to work as a reservoir for electrical power. During engine cranking at start-up, the battery provides power to the starter motor, the ignition system and the other electrical devices needed to start and run the car, such as electronic fuel injection. After the car is running, the engine's charging system recharges the battery and provides the electrical current needed to keep the engine running. When the engine is at low idle, the charging system may not provide enough current to keep the car running. In this situation, the battery provides the extra power required. When the engine is not running at all, the battery provides the power to run all of your electrical accessories. Beyond working as a power reservoir, the battery also works as a stabilizer for the entire electrical system. </div></div>

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    Default Re: battery - back yard mechanic?

    "..or when engine is at a very low idle."

    i.e. below specs.

    Never ran into an alternator that did not put out at correct idle. And low idle is VERY obvious. Drop it into gear and the engine dies.

    When the engine is in gear (automatic), the alternator will still put out 14.5 volts.

    In my experience.
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mboy67</div><div class="ubbcode-body">hey Barry your wrong about the readings. readings for a charging system very from car to car. on average most systems read between 14.0 to 14.2 some older systems did not go over 13.5

    In all my years I have not seen many systems 14.5 or over unless there is a problem with the voltage regulator or ifthe battery is extremely low. Then you will see higher then average readings till the battery comes up. </div></div>

    OK. Though I have seen some cars at 15 volts normally. And other alternators that would not START up till 1000 RPM.

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