A 'Tolerant' Country

[GenX]

"New statistics that show gays are twice as likely as heterosexuals to be the victims of violent crime probably do not reflect the full extent of the problem, an expert in law and sexuality at Queen's University in Kingston, Ont., said Thursday.

"The research that was done on this issue previously in Canada has disclosed, surprisingly, very high results in all categories (of violence), ranging from extreme assault resulting in death, way to the other end of the continuum, which is threatening behaviour in public, including spitting, saying derogatory comments and so on," Kathleen Lahey said in an interview.

Her comments follow the release of a Canada-wide social survey by Statistics Canada, conducted in 2004, that show gays, lesbians and bisexuals are significantly more likely than heterosexuals to be the victims of violent crimes, including sexual assault, robbery and physical assault."

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[Soundbear]

"...saying derogatory comments and so on..."

Like your comments to people about San Francisco???

[GenX]

Not at all.

I have the utmost respect for people of the Bay Area.

I asked Grumpy if he was going there, because it is all too obvious he has issues with people unlike himself.

[Soundbear]

The gay inference is clear, dear boy.

[GenX]

Barry, are all gays going to Hell?

[dancingqueen]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"New statistics that show gays are twice as likely as heterosexuals to be the victims of violent crime probably do not reflect the full extent of the problem, an expert in law and sexuality at Queen's University in Kingston, Ont., said Thursday.

"The research that was done on this issue previously in Canada has disclosed, surprisingly, very high results in all categories (of violence), ranging from extreme assault resulting in death, way to the other end of the continuum, which is threatening behaviour in public, including spitting, saying derogatory comments and so on," Kathleen Lahey said in an interview.

Her comments follow the release of a Canada-wide social survey by Statistics Canada, conducted in 2004, that show gays, lesbians and bisexuals are significantly more likely than heterosexuals to be the victims of violent crimes, including sexual assault, robbery and physical assault."

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I'm sure one could not even imagine these numbers within the "Bible belt"

[GenX]

Well, dig up the stats, and let's see.

[Wrangler35]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Barry, are all gays going to Hell? </div></div>


NO..but you sure will be there son..mind games EH..Barry had you Hans down..what did you do son..turn it on him..heres a NEWS Flash..meet you in HELL.SON!

[GenX]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Camper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Barry, are all gays going to Hell? </div></div>


NO..but you syre will be there son..mind games EH..Barry had you Hans down..what did you do son..turn it on hime..heres a NEWS Flash..meet you in HEll.SON! </div></div>

You're going to be in Hell, too??

Cool! Err...I mean, that's HOT!

I'm going to Hell for being Catholic. What are you going for? Not using the brain God gave you?

[Wrangler35]

I'm there to mentor you R.W.G.R..thats right as your mentor..

[GenX]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Camper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I'm there to mentor you R.W.G.R..thats right as your mentor.. </div></div>

Well that certainly makes sense, seeing as you've been living in Hell on Earth for a while now [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[Wrangler35]

What..no school to-day hmmm..LOL...May-be you can teach dancingQUEEN how tolerant the Catholic Religion has been towards people who are attracted to same sex...

[GenX]

The Catholic Church is tolerant of all human beings. What it is not tolerant of is sin; the knowledge of which is granted Her through Jesus' exhortation to keep His Church from unsound doctrine.

[Soundbear]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Catholic Church is tolerant of all human beings. What it is not tolerant of is sin...
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And so, according to the RCC, those who remain in sin end up where when they die???

P.S. I know lots of catholics in no fear of hell. And I know some who should be.

[GenX]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And so, according to the RCC, those who remain in sin end up where when they die??? </div></div>

Either a Tim Horton's in Strathroy, Ontario, or in a movie theater in Biloxi, Mississippi, watching eternal reruns of "Waterworld".

What, that isn't sound theology???

Pffft!!

[GenX]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">P.S. I know lots of catholics in no fear of hell. And I know some who should be. </div></div>

Right,

And the theology of "once saved, always saved" does so much to convince people they could end up in Hell.

[Return of Too Many Daves]

Hey guys give the catholics a break. As RWGR points out the catholoics are tollerate all people, but they do not tollerate sin. They have no problem with gay people as long as they aren't being gay. So enlightened.

[GenX]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Return of Too Many Daves</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey guys give the catholics a break. As RWGR points out the catholoics are tollerate all people, but they do not tollerate sin. They have no problem with gay people as long as they aren't being gay. So enlightened. </div></div>

It's the sin that is the problem, not the person.

Now, go back and re-type that spelling monstrosity, Cybie, JR [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">P.S. I know lots of catholics in no fear of hell. And I know some who should be. </div></div>

Right,

And the theology of "once saved, always saved" does so much to convince people they could end up in Hell. </div></div>

Tell that to Augustine!

[GenX]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aydeloof</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">P.S. I know lots of catholics in no fear of hell. And I know some who should be. </div></div>

Right,

And the theology of "once saved, always saved" does so much to convince people they could end up in Hell. </div></div>

Tell that to Augustine! </div></div>

C'mon, Ayd...that's an old one!

"While the first extensive discussion of the doctrine of the perseverance of the saints is found in Augustine’s Treatise on the Gift of Perseverance, written around A. D. 429, Augustine believed it was possible to experience the justifying grace of God and yet not persevere to the end. Augustine did believe God’s elect would certainly persevere to the end, but he denied that a person could know they were in the elect and he also warned it was possible to be justified but not among the elect. Not until Calvin was unconditional election, permanent regeneration, and certitude of final perseverance all connected."

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