Bible Facts Debunked by Science

[Soundbear]

The complete list is as follows:

[dancingqueen]

one of the major laws of science: Matter cannot be created or destroyed... there are more, like I don't belive it is posssible to turn a human being into salt, or for a woman to become pregnant while still being a virgin, or for a man to die and come back to life... Barry, there are hundreds of things that science defies in the Bible, you just have to accept it.

[xXx Duffy xXx]

haha ... I was hoping to see somethin creative ... and all I see was a blank post :P ... NICE!

Myself ... Im an Athiest. Im the kinda guy you have to SHOW something to prove that it's there. Hell .. if science can prove that AIR is real ... and we cant see it , ( ditto with the ozone layer ) ... then why not produce a supposed "being" made up of invisible matter aswel?

[ProfessorZed]

But really, what does it matter? Do things have to be literally factual to be true?

[dancingqueen]

not at all. I just think this is an interesting thread created by someone saying this:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barry Morris</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> And once some people's minds are made up, evidence to the contrary means nothing.</div></div>

[xXx Duffy xXx]

Dont have to be, no. However, I'm a hands on kinda guy. I like to be able to hold something, see something, feel something, or be PROVEN something before I beleive in it.

What is the definition of a wive's tale?

"An old wives' tale or old wives' saws is a proverb, much like an urban legend, which is generally passed down by old wives to a younger generation. Such 'tales' usually consist of superstition, folklore or unverified claims with exaggerated and/or untrue details"

Only time the tales are proven wrong is when they're PROVEN ...

Iunno .. I just have a hard time wrapping my head around something you cant see, smell, touch, or hold. Never been one for that kinda thing

[Soundbear]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dancingqueen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">one of the major laws of science: Matter cannot be created or destroyed... there are more, like I don't belive it is posssible to turn a human being into salt, or for a woman to become pregnant while still being a virgin, or for a man to die and come back to life... Barry, there are hundreds of things that science defies in the Bible, you just have to accept it.
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1: "Matter cannot be created or destroyed." Has this been proven?? Nope, it actually hasn't. Plus the definition of God is that he is OUTSIDE this universe, and therefore OVER all matter.

2: "Pillar of salt" If God can manipulate matter, why not?? It certainly makes easy....

3: "Virgin becomes pregnant" merely the manipulation of a few genes.

4: "Man to die and come back to life" This is interesting, in being one of the most proven facts of ancient history. I'll ask you only one thing about it. Why would 11 of the 12 apostles die martyrs deaths testifying that Jesus rose from the dead WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN IT WAS A LIE?? People will die for a cause, but I challenge you to find some who will die for a cause whose very foundation they KNOW to be untrue.

1 Corinthians 15:17-19
17 And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins!
18 Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable.

Paul recognized this.

[GenX]

Barry, your heart and mind is in the right place...

[xXx Duffy xXx]

Tell me how they proved that jesus died and came back to life. Back in biblical times, people drank wine more often than water. Chances are they were having a "gathering" and partaking of the "sacred wine" and all of a sudden, someone who LOOKED like him walks by. OMG Dude! He's alive again.

Virgin becomes pregnant .... yeah .. because they had artificial insemination back in Jerusalem. Man ,.. werent we feelin stupid when we realized we'd forgot about this for a few hundred years.


Common man ... gimme a hard one!

[BlueSky]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W G R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Barry, your heart and mind is in the right place... </div></div>

A wonderful admission!

Is this a new era?

[BlueSky]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tormented Soul</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Man ,.. werent we geelin stupid when we realized we'd forggoted about this...

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[KDawg]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dancingqueen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">one of the major laws of science: Matter cannot be created or destroyed... </div></div>

Whichever side of the argument you're on -- Big bang theory or Creationism -- that law of science only applies after the fact in both cases.

[Soundbear]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KDawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dancingqueen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">one of the major laws of science: Matter cannot be created or destroyed... </div></div>

Whichever side of the argument you're on -- Big bang theory or Creationism -- that law of science only applies after the fact in both cases. </div></div>


Thanks Kdawg, absolutely right.

[Soundbear]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tormented Soul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tell me how they proved that jesus died and came back to life. Back in biblical times, people drank wine more often than water. Chances are they were having a "gathering" and partaking of the "sacred wine" and all of a sudden, someone who LOOKED like him walks by. OMG Dude! He's alive again.

Virgin becomes pregnant .... yeah .. because they had artificial insemination back in Jerusalem. Man ,.. werent we geelin stupid when we realized we'd forggoted about this for a few hundred years.


Common man ... gimme a hard one!
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Did you read what I posted?? Read it again. This was way more than "someone who LOOKED like him walks by". People believed to the point of DYING for that belief. People who would have known better.

As to the virgin becomes pregnant. That's exactly what the Jes believed. Mary was impregnated by Joseph or even a Roman soldier. More later.

[Nihilistic Heathen]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1: "Matter cannot be created or destroyed." Has this been proven?? Nope, it actually hasn't. Plus the definition of God is that he is OUTSIDE this universe, and therefore OVER all matter.

2: "Pillar of salt" If God can manipulate matter, why not?? It certainly makes easy....

3: "Virgin becomes pregnant" merely the manipulation of a few genes.

4: "Man to die and come back to life" This is interesting, in being one of the most proven facts of ancient history. I'll ask you only one thing about it. Why would 11 of the 12 apostles die martyrs deaths testifying that Jesus rose from the dead WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN IT WAS A LIE?? People will die for a cause, but I challenge you to find some who will die for a cause whose very foundation they KNOW to be untrue.
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Science deals with natural phenomenon not the supernatural. Adding god to the equation doesn't prove it's scientifically possible.

So are you going to add those to your list?

[Soundbear]

Nope. Bible facts debunked by science does not include the effect of the supernatural. How could it??

Curious thought. take any living thing. kill it. Bring it back to life. Can science do that?? No, not even with the simplest of amoeba.

[xXx Duffy xXx]

nothing can die and come back to life. Even in CPR .. the brain's not dead, so they can be brought back. If everything's dead ... you're done

[Soundbear]

Then where did Christianity come from??? How do you explain a mistaken belief by people who KNEW better??

[Soundbear]

What I had in mind with this thread was a challenge to find bible facts now corrected by science where the supernatural was NOT involved. Obviously, with anything outside the realm of the natural, anything goes. That doesn't count.

The proof of the resurrection of Jesus has little to do with science and more to do with the rules of evidence.

[dancingqueen]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> What I had in mind with this thread was a challenge to find bible facts now corrected by science where the supernatural was NOT involved. Obviously, with anything outside the realm of the natural, anything goes. That doesn't count</div></div>

Barry, everything about the Bible is supernatural, that's like me saying prove to me purple is a colour with the exception of using words that are colors because that doesn't count.

the very fact of supernatural activity is debunked by science.