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    What is 'death by Canada', you wonder...

    ...is it dying because a 400-pound woman, who spent a lifetime on welfare eating poutine, slipped on the ice and fell on you, after a Greyhound's game at The Memo...I mean Steel...I mean Essa...I mean, whatever non-bankrupt Canadian business get the naming rights of your hockey rink next?

    Nope.

    ...is it dying from laughter after the entire Canadian military goes by you, in the Canada Day Parade, in 5.22 seconds?

    No.

    ...is it getting hit by a drunk driver on Queen Street on a Saturday night, when odds are 3 out of every 4 driver's are ripped out of their mind?

    Nope...its ASBESTOS!!





    Death by Canada'

    Keith Spicer
    Citizen Special

    Monday, October 20, 2008

    PARIS -- Solemn and silent, 6,000 sign-carrying men and women glided slowly last week past my restaurant window. At first glance: a typical mob of all-purpose leftist protesters. Then I saw their signs. These denounced l'amiante -- asbestos. Remembering the unending tragedy of Canada's "export of cancer," I went out to chat with marchers.

    First impression: a sea of white hair. These were not workers, but retirees. Second impression: sad faces. These were not the usual happy-go-lucky, partying demonstrators with noise-makers, bull-horns, drums and rat-a-tat slogans that pump up standard union protests. They were, as their signs and pamphlets claimed, victims of agonizing "death by Canada."

    "We can't understand why Canada, a civilized country, not only allows, but pushes such poisonous exports," one man in his 60s told me. It's such a blot on your image." Andeva, the French victims' collective organizing the demonstration, estimates 100,000 new asbestos victims in France by 2011.

    Canada is a culprit in two of Paris's most spectacular asbestos messes: the 59-storey Tour Montparnasse and the University of Paris's Jussieu science campus. The Montparnasse tower, built in the 1970s under President Georges Pompidou, disfigures the Paris skyline. It's also a costly, life-threatening poison-trap.

    Building owners have budgeted 110 million euros ($176 million) to clean common areas of asbestos. Condo office-owners will have to pay an extra 800,000 euros per floor ($1.3-million) to remove the 70 tons of asbestos-poisoned waste at each level. Completion? Maybe 2011. Illnesses already caused construction workers and the current 5,000 office-workers? Likely a huge long-term time-bomb.

    Completed in 1972, Jussieu is one of France's top science campuses. A complex of 37 buildings near the Seine, it contains various types of asbestos, including "less-damaging" chrysotile. The 1995 Jussieu asbestos scandal terrified all France -- countless other schools had used the same toxic materials. In 2004, courts ordered compensation of about 30,000 euros each to 11 sick plaintiffs. As of 2008, 130 people using the infected buildings suffered asbestos-related illnesses: cancer, asbestosis, pleural plaques.

    For almost 35 years, the Jussieu saga has excited the media. Endless reports, lawsuits, demonstrations and building closures disrupted studies. Frightened science students and professors had the choice of studying in dangerous buildings or leaving the university. Financial costs run to hundreds of millions of euros. Cost in harmed or delayed careers is incalculable, and years of cleaning-up remain.

    How is Canada involved? As an exporter of chrysotile asbestos. Reflecting Quebec political pressures, our diplomatic and trade officials push the pro-asbestos case aggressively. Canada's government, especially today's Tories, blocks chrysotile-doubting science reports. It paralyzes international efforts such as the 2004 Rotterdam Convention, which demands fair warnings on toxic-chemical exports. Ottawa even co-funds the industry lobby -- the speciously "scientific" Chrysotile Institute, which recently launched a libel suit against a victims' group.

    The latest report scaring the government was ordered by Canada's federal Health Minister Tony Clement earlier this year. It may again cast doubt on the safety of chrysotile asbestos. But the Harper government, handmaiden of the asbestos industry and craving Quebec votes, refuses to release it. Will it be suppressed, or merely censored?

    The Quebec government, eager to protect a piddling "almost 550" asbestos jobs, presses Ottawa to find (ill-informed) foreign markets to replace all-too-aware domestic ones. Strategy: sell the lethal stuff to desperate-to-develop Third World nations where worker protection is weak.

    Health Canada -- did George Orwell invent that name? -- peddles acrobatic reassurances to convince the public that a little cancer is not really so bad. It insists: "If asbestos fibres are enclosed or tightly bound in a product ... there are no significant health risks. Asbestos poses health risks only when fibres are present in the air that people breathe."

    But bindings come loose or break with nobody knowing. And when workers renovate or tear down a wall, siding or house, the death-dealing fibres escape -- harming workers and anybody nearby.

    Health Canada also argues there are two kinds of asbestos -- the really awful kind (amphibole asbestos) and the just-a-little-awful kind (chrysotile asbestos). The department charged with protecting Canadians' health offers this lyrical endorsement of the less awful kind: "It is generally accepted that chrysotile asbestos is less potent and does less damage to the lungs than the amphiboles." Less potent? Less damage? Not harmless, not "safe?"

    Canada's pro-asbestos policy is cynical, hypocritical, shameful and indefensible. Deliberately tricking impoverished nations by sabotaging fair warnings, it betrays Canadian values as a decent, environment-friendly country.

    Does Stephen Harper have the integrity to stop fooling poor nations about our still-risky asbestos? Let the separatist Bloc Québécois cry "anti-Quebec." Harper could play hard ball: He could call them "the cancer party."

    http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/...9-91e0447b2618

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    I suppose Canadians are responsible for the twin towers as well..who supplied the builders of material..It was slated for up-grading..but apparently..it was leased despite the costs.. to up-grade..and further..the lease holder thought it smart to take out Insurance against Terrorists attacks..in which there was..Imagine..rather than taking the asbestos from the building at a premium cost..just lease it!

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    Well, it not just our problem.
    Clean up your back yard before you tell me to clean up mine.
    Got it!

    http://reports.ewg.org/reports/asbes...deralmogul.php

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    Default Re: 'Death by Canada'

    Quote Originally Posted by JackButler View Post
    How 'tolerant'.
    Serene

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    Default Re: 'Death by Canada'

    I would have to say the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RWGR View Post
    How 'tolerant'.
    the 'loser" loses again.....

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    http://reports.ewg.org/reports/asbestos/facts/fact1.php

    From the same site & period ... Geez, the reciprocating link was on that page you gave.

    "an epidemic of asbestos-caused diseases in the United States that claims the life of one out of every 125 American men who die over the age of 50.

    Ten thousand Americans die each year -- a rate approaching 30 deaths per day -- from diseases caused by asbestos,"

    Guess we all got our dirty secrets.

    "Even more disturbing, deaths from asbestos in the United States appear to be increasing"

    -Yawn-
    Last edited by Dixie_Normous; 10-21-2008 at 10:43 AM.

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    Strategy: sell the lethal stuff to desperate-to-develop Third World nations where worker protection is weak.

    I must preface anything I say with this. I, as a caring Canadian am dead set against asbestos. I am watching a very dear relative suffer the ravages of asbestosis.
    Nothing in this release surprised me as I have been writing feverishly now for the last seven months lobbying anyone in the government who will listen to me.Other than that the fact the author thinks France is a third world nation kind of caught me off guard. Do they not have laws and legislation in place to protect their workers?
    RWGR I thought you where a God fearing Christian? You know your Bible inside out, what happened to "Let those amongst you who are free from sin cast the first stone."
    Another you might consider is "Pride goeth before a fall".
    A friend stationed in Afghanistan has retired and stayed on, opening a bomb plant that makes ordinance that look like prayer mats. Profits are through the roof.

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    It was deemed safe some time ago. Just like pink insulation now. How long do you figure before they realize that glass fibres in your lungs are going to cause lung cancer as well?


    RWGR, your running out of Material.

    United states has more overweight people, they have more people on welfare.
    I like poutine, you have fries and gravy, we just put cheese on it. MMMMMMMM

    Exaggerating a bit on the army thing aren't you? Just the reserves alone in the Sault would take atleast 20seconds

    Memorial Gardens stayed memorial gardens for 50+ years. It was demo'd.

    The new center was built, and naming rights were purchased by a guy who can't handle money, sells it to his investors/partners. Company is still alive. And he is chairman.

    It was just in the companies best interest not to continue naming right to the center because of other arenas and a speedway carrying SteelBack brewery's name. So they reneged on the deal.
    ....................

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    Quote Originally Posted by bohd View Post
    the 'loser" loses again.....
    as they say once an a$$hole always an a$$hole and in this case he'll forever be an a$$hole

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    Grumpy, you show very clearly how effective the moderators are in these forums.

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    Why thank you,actually it was aimed at RWGR but I guess it must of hit you too.

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