ASI

[Macs II]

It looks like the Union already has it's hands full..as the company wants to eliminate the letters of agreement signed previously between the company and the union. It's interesting to see what the outcome is .

[kodak57]

u make me laugh..................

[Macs II]

we'll see

[kodak57]

ya we will,u still make me laugh..........lol.....you would be a great person to tell a rumor too......we thought fires spread fast.........lol..Get the facts first before you speak,oh but i bet you did.........sorry...LMFAO!!!!!!!!

[Macs II]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ya we will,u still make me laugh..........lol.....you would be a great person to tell a rumor too......we thought fires spread fast.........lol..Get the facts first before you speak,oh but i bet you did.........sorry...LMFAO!!!!!!!! </div></div>

so your saying the local newspapers are writing rumors ?

[KWB]

I'd just leave ASI and get a job elsewere

[riggs]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Macs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It looks like the Union already has it's hands full..as the company wants to eliminate the letters of agreement signed previously between the company and the union. It's interesting to see what the outcome is . </div></div>

The company claims these letters of agreement have hurt the companies performance.That statement was made after a estimated billion dollars in profits since the last contract.

[GRUMPY]

It always the same every contract each side asks for the moon. I'd give the upper hand to the company after all how much fight can a jelly fish put up?

[riggs]

I believe the strike mandate vote is july 2nd so we'll have our answer shortly.

[GRUMPY]

These votes are all the same every time with a strong vote for strike action, I've yet to see one that wasn't . It's all part of the game.

[GRUMPY]

Just a word of advice after going through the last strike, take everything with a grain of salt from BOTH the company and the union as they are both liars and neither truly care about the worker. The company wants your labour for as cheap as possible and the union wants your dues. The last strike I was a firm union member till I caught the area rep in a bald face lie and then the lights went on for me.

[KDawg]

Essar is a multi-national company with $billions in assets and revenues.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Essar Global Chairman, Shashi Ruia said his company is looking forward to expanding operations into North America. “Our investment in Minnesota Steel is exciting as it gives us a cornerstone in the North American market. From this we will further expand our global steel business,” he said.</div></div>

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I'd say they're the ones holding the cards.

[kodak57]

yes i am......

[Ultra54]

The company always has the money but they don't hold the cards. The worker holds the cards. What type of idiot would invest billions in the North American steel market only to piss it away over something so rediculous. It's the same as when you go buy a car, the seller always starts high and you meet somewhere in the middle. Its all part of the game and if you bother to get into it this early in the game then fine, have fun.

[Huggy85]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: grumpy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">These votes are all the same every time with a strong vote for strike action, I've yet to see one that wasn't . It's all part of the game. </div></div>

Correct. These strike votes are merely a formality. Without a strike vote, the union has no power in negotiations, you'll never see a strike mandate vote that does no give an overwhelming approval for a strike.

Without a pro-strike vote, the company has no motivation to negotiate with the union

[GRUMPY]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ultra54</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The company always has the money but they don't hold the cards. The worker holds the cards. What type of idiot would invest billions in the North American steel market only to piss it away over something so rediculous. It's the same as when you go buy a car, the seller always starts high and you meet somewhere in the middle. Its all part of the game and if you bother to get into it this early in the game then fine, have fun. </div></div>

you never know they might just want to prove something, we'll have to wait and see.

[riggs]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ultra54</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The company always has the money but they don't hold the cards. The worker holds the cards. What type of idiot would invest billions in the North American steel market only to piss it away over something so rediculous. It's the same as when you go buy a car, the seller always starts high and you meet somewhere in the middle. Its all part of the game and if you bother to get into it this early in the game then fine, have fun. </div></div>

Based on that investment I can't see them wanting a labour dispute.It's just a case of the company wanting to strike first as they know we'll be after a healthy contract based on the profits earned.

But as Grumpy says we'll just have to wait and see.

[GRUMPY]

The thing to remember we are in a tiny little town out in the boonies so how the heck do we know whats actually going on? The deciding factors could be something that we are totally unaware of.

[kodak57]

yes we will...i doubt if the new owners are not even at the bargaining table you are right that it would be stupid to start your new business off with a strike.Myself,i think its Denis Turcotte that is behind this signing letters of agreements again just to bog down talks and come in at the last minute with a crappy offer and a signing bonus,and we will jump at it,like the last,but hopefully we have learned from last contract and will not jump at any offer.Oh just for the record,for the people that are going to say,"what about the 10,000$?",well that we were going to get anyway they just gave it to us 6 months early.I hope we dont go on strike but i and alot of others are preparing for it,like it or not,and for those who dont like it...TFB!!.We have alot to address including our retired members,they as well as the present have made this whole company possible.

[riggs]

I'm not sure how many years of negotiations they want to wipe out with the elimination of the letters of agreements but I'm sure it far too much.

Alot of work and effort went into these agreements and they were made for reasons to solve problems.Simply talk to the older members and retirees and they'll tell you what life was like before some of these agreements were put into place.

your right Steve....we need to be patient and not jump at the first offer