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    Who should pay bill for rapist's sex change?

    January 13, 2010 Tracey Tyler
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    He entered Ontario's psychiatric system nearly 34 years ago as Vance Egglestone, whose criminal history involved choking and raping women in bars.
    Today he is known as Shauna Taylor and aspires to a feminine life in a maximum-security wing of the Penetanguishene Mental Health Centre.
    He wears makeup and women's clothing, but isn't much for orchids.
    Taylor, 53, wants to undergo a procedure known as a double orchidectomy, the surgical removal of both testicles, to complete his transition to womanhood.
    (The word "orchid" comes from the Greek word "orkhis," or testicle, which the plant's roots resemble.)
    A central issue in the case, which comes before the Ontario Court of Appeal Wednesday, is whether Ontario's Ministry of the Attorney General should pick up the cost of a medical assessment to determine whether Taylor should have the surgery.
    http://www.healthzone.ca/health/news...t-s-sex-change

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    How about I just do the surgery for free. Scalpel! That will be all nurse.

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    I find it highly ironic that he raped women and then aspires to be a woman. I don't think he mentally fit to wipe his own a$$ but then again I am no professional.
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    I could've removed his genitals for free... ridiculous....
    There's no problem too great that can't be lessened by a couple swings..

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    The taxpayer gets "raped" buy a professional this time, huh and he ain't even in a suit?

    I have money says even the pro lifers are looking at this one and thinking, maybe, just maybe...................
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    I think I find it odd, that a rapist can plead to be somewhat insane and wants to be a women. Clever ploy to have access too the females in the female prison? He knows this won't fly, so he'll have all his junk and bunch of women in prison!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyBlue View Post
    Who should pay bill for rapist's sex change?

    January 13, 2010 Tracey Tyler
    LEGAL AFFAIRS REPORTER

    He entered Ontario's psychiatric system nearly 34 years ago as Vance Egglestone, whose criminal history involved choking and raping women in bars.
    Today he is known as Shauna Taylor and aspires to a feminine life in a maximum-security wing of the Penetanguishene Mental Health Centre.
    He wears makeup and women's clothing, but isn't much for orchids.
    Taylor, 53, wants to undergo a procedure known as a double orchidectomy, the surgical removal of both testicles, to complete his transition to womanhood.
    (The word "orchid" comes from the Greek word "orkhis," or testicle, which the plant's roots resemble.)
    A central issue in the case, which comes before the Ontario Court of Appeal Wednesday, is whether Ontario's Ministry of the Attorney General should pick up the cost of a medical assessment to determine whether Taylor should have the surgery.
    http://www.healthzone.ca/health/news...t-s-sex-change

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    but isn't much for orchids.

    The nerve.
    His family should pay.

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    Also, I would like to direct everyone's attention to the last line; A central issue in the case, which comes before the Ontario Court of Appeal Wednesday, is whether Ontario's Ministry of the Attorney General should pick up the cost of a medical assessment to determine whether Taylow should have the surgery.

    They didn't mention they were picking up the cost of the surgery, just the assessment whether he should have it. Just think of the rights everyone is fighting for. It is everyone's right in Canada to access to healthcare. If he is denied the assessment, he is denied his right that we argue so much about. Special assessments are at a cost, and generally have to be referred by another doctor. The battle is now with in the Attorney General and OHIP/Canada Health who gets the assessment bill.

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    You need to follow the link and read the entire article. There is more to the story than that.
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    But board members have been skeptical because some clinicians and consultants at the hospital suspect Taylor is faking the disorder to get moved to a less restrictive institution.

    Since 1995, every time she has tried to get out of Penetanguishene's Oak Ridge division, she has failed.

    Given Taylor's history of deceit, the board found in 2007 she can't be trusted to be honest about her alleged condition.
    These parts?

    I did read the entire post. As I said before, the battle is over the assessment. After the assessment, there will be who gets the bill for the surgery, or if he gets the surgery. I believe it's a scam to get into the female prison, or a less restrictive prison as the article states. I could be wrong, but I didn't see where they said they were going ahead with the surgery and who's paying for it.

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    I say just put the little suzie orchid in with Paul Bernardo and let them have at 'er.

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    We pay for removal but if he wants things put back together a different way that's his problem.

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    Why the hell is anyone considering it? Offenders like that should be lucky we have an overbearing bleeding heart society and they are alive. Isnt this a 100% completely elective surgery, therefore he wouldnt be entiteld to it. Whats next - boob jobs for women in prison with self esteem issues on how they look?
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    why is it even being considered for godsake? he's in prison, not on a make-over show!

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    sorry but he is a citizen of the country and is due all of his rights

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudd Rucker View Post
    Why the hell is anyone considering it? Offenders like that should be lucky we have an overbearing bleeding heart society and they are alive. Isnt this a 100% completely elective surgery, therefore he wouldnt be entiteld to it. Whats next - boob jobs for women in prison with self esteem issues on how they look?
    I'm only considering it because I think removing a guys' nuts should be the universal punishment for rape. And yeah we should do it for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoCasa View Post
    I'm only considering it because I think removing a guys' nuts should be the universal punishment for rape. And yeah we should do it for free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweet Little Sister View Post
    ..with a rusty grapefruit spoon
    I was thinking more on the lines of an electric hedge trimmer, but sure - if you want to go easy on the guy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRUMPY View Post
    sorry but he is a citizen of the country and is due all of his rights
    As far I now, no one in Canada is entitled to free elective surgery. Christ sakes they wouldnt do exploratory surgery on my kidneys since I apparently dont have stones but im getting all the fun of having them.

    As for the nuts being cut off, stick him in a cell with a guy who murdered someone for raping his wife or someone close to him. Im pretty sure the whole situation would fix itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudd Rucker View Post
    Why the hell is anyone considering it? Offenders like that should be lucky we have an overbearing bleeding heart society and they are alive. Isnt this a 100% completely elective surgery, therefore he wouldnt be entiteld to it. Whats next - boob jobs for women in prison with self esteem issues on how they look?

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