What's your opinion?

[dancingqueen]

That's all I was trying to say :/

[Soundbear]

Under a Monarchy, you have no power to effect change, unless it is a violent overthrow.
in democracy, there is a better chance at change.

And how does that jibe with authority as described in the bible??

I note this irony, especially in view of scripture. It is perfectly normal, in a democracy, to work all week for the overthrow of the present leaders, and then be exhorted to pray for them on Sunday morning.

[Bluesky]

The Scriptures teach us to obey those who have the rule over us. Those who currently have the rule over us are bound by a Constitution and by the same law that we are under. And the law tells us to choose our leader as often as elections are called. So we can pray for our leaders, as long as they are leaders, and if they do a lousy job of governing, we can throw the bum out whilst praying for his soul.

I see no contradiction between praying for our leader and voting him out of office. What do you pray for when you do pray for your leaders?
Why did you use the word 'overthrow'? Sounds like anarchy and revolution to me.
You are over dramatizing.

[Wisdom]

communities get so large....they begin to become difficult to manage....smaller societies at one time were based on consensus...

[Soundbear]

The Scriptures teach us to obey those who have the rule over us. Those who currently have the rule over us are bound by a Constitution and by the same law that we are under. And the law tells us to choose our leader as often as elections are called. So we can pray for our leaders, as long as they are leaders, and if they do a lousy job of governing, we can throw the bum out whilst praying for his soul.

I see no contradiction between praying for our leader and voting him out of office. What do you pray for when you do pray for your leaders?
Why did you use the word 'overthrow'? Sounds like anarchy and revolution to me.
You are over dramatizing.

Yeah, yeah. I have no problem praying for our leaders. Just don't say the bible says so, because democracy never crossed Paul's mind.

[Bluesky]

Yeah, yeah. I have no problem praying for our leaders. Just don't say the bible says so, because democracy never crossed Paul's mind.

What the heck? What is with your attitude these days???

[R W G R]

...well., obviously he is subscribing to "Sola Scriptura"

[Wisdom]

What the heck? What is with your attitude these days???

we are not privy to all the info...maybe a personal conflict....
maybe a mantra will help....

[Soundbear]

What the heck? What is with your attitude these days???

Simple. You read too much into my words.

[Bluesky]

Simple. You read too much into my words.

Well, when EVERYONE is beginning to "read too much into your words" do you think, for one second, the problem might be located elsewhere? Just give it some thought.

Think about this. Recently, someone from Soonet told me, "I don;'t understand soundbear. I have met him in person, and he is not at all like the impression I get from him on Soonet. They think that in person you are a nice easy going lovable fellow. But here on soonet, in print, you come across as a bitten cynic who wants to stop everyone in their tracks with your verbal burpgun.

I think a little reflection and self examination might be in order. We are here to represent Christ, not drive them away from Him.

[Soundbear]

I'll give it some thought.

[Bluesky]

It doesn't matter what I think. But it bugs me when others talk to me. And they do. I am getting to know a few soonnetters, even at this distance. If the impression you are leaving is generally off-putting, then whatever you are trying to do on Soonet is not working, right?

Whoops. This is an edit. The post I am responding to (I thought) originally said, "Give it some thought." With the above edited post, now my post doesn't make sense.

[Wisdom]

i come for the conversation....besides that what other agenda could there be?

[Bluesky]

i come for the conversation....besides that what other agenda could there be?

In the religion forum, (and I just said this to a Soonetter in person) one of the items on my agenda is to see that as far as my ability goes, I want to see that Evangelical Christianity is represented fairly. With so many opinions out there, and with some many people who are ready to criticize or mock, it's important to wade in and at least attempt to represent my Champion the way he is represented in the Book.

[Soundbear]

Someday we'll have to talk about gossip.

[Wisdom]

In the religion forum, (and I just said this to a Soonetter in person) one of the items on my agenda is to see that as far as my ability goes, I want to see that Evangelical Christianity is represented fairly. With so many opinions out there, and with some many people who are ready to criticize or mock, it's important to wade in and at least attempt to represent my Champion the way he is represented in the Book.

representing seems fine, but it sounds like you try to defend him...and maybe he should be doing that himself......

[Bluesky]

him - a pronoun, representing a noun. I am unaware of the noun you wished to point to with your use of 'him'
Whom do I "try to defend"?

[NewCasa]

representing seems fine, but it sounds like you try to defend him...and maybe he should be doing that himself......

I think his champion is Jesus.

[Wisdom]

I think his champion is Jesus.

yeah i got that thanks....

[NewCasa]

yeah i got that thanks....

So you expect him to come forward and defend himself? Sorry, but that's the comment that got me thinking you weren't getting who Blue was talking about.