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    Cultural denial has similarities to the process of denial in individuals. When someone is an abuser, and hurts a victim, there is a psychological propensity to scapegoat the victim, and to deny one’s own culpability. There is a belief that if the victim can be destroyed, the guilt can be destroyed.

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    Kinda like saying "oh she asked to get raped" or "if he didn't act so gay he wouldn't get shunned like that"
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    Is it okay to say you like the ethnicity you were born as?
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    yes.

    I also like the ethnicities that I was NOT born with, for many reasons....

    I think the constant research of each ethnicity and the perspectives of ALL ethnic backgrounds is a search for knowledge and open-mindedness....

    We are all just people....some of us have different ways....none wrong, just different....
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    You are not allowed to say that you are proud to be white? Say that in front of an audience, any other ethnicity can do that, a white man cant. There are consequences for stating the obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike hunt View Post
    You are not allowed to say that you are proud to be white? Say that in front of an audience, any other ethnicity can do that, a white man cant. There are consequences for stating the obvious.
    I have never been sanctioned for saying that I am proud and happy to be white, same with being a male... oddly enough, I do for saying I'm proud to be gay....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dancingqueen View Post
    I have never been sanctioned for saying that I am proud and happy to be white, same with being a male... oddly enough, I do for saying I'm proud to be gay....
    That's 3 strikes against you!! You bad boy you...

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    Saying I'm proud to be white, is like saying that someone is proud to be brown, yellow, red, black, or whatever. I'm not white. If I hold my skin up to other people, I may be a shade darker, or lighter or what ever.

    I'm proud to be half Welsh and half Greek. Being proud of a skin colour to me, is just off. What is white anyway? German? Scandinavian? I really don't understand. Take a white sheet of paper and hold it up to your skin and see how you compare.

    Be proud of who you are and who've you become. Be proud of your families accomplishments. Be proud of your history. Don't be proud of which part of a colour pallet your skin belongs too.
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    Wow that was beautiful. The speech from Any Given Sunday is now nothing more than a pile of words strung together like popcorn on a string. We all know how ugly that is on the Christmas tree. Seacat OUT!
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    What does it mean that we live in a culture which is polluting and destroying the land? Concrete, buildings, chemicals, pesticides, monocrop agriculture and many other aspects of our culture upset the balance of nature.
    Our food comes from far away, and through an industrialized process that makes use of other animals and plants. What is our responsibility to the earth’s environment?

    http://www.anti-politics.net/distro/...beNDN-read.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom View Post
    What does it mean that we live in a culture which is polluting and destroying the land? Concrete, buildings, chemicals, pesticides, monocrop agriculture and many other aspects of our culture upset the balance of nature.
    Our food comes from far away, and through an industrialized process that makes use of other animals and plants. What is our responsibility to the earth’s environment?

    http://www.anti-politics.net/distro/...beNDN-read.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike hunt View Post
    You are not allowed to say that you are proud to be white? Say that in front of an audience, any other ethnicity can do that, a white man cant. There are consequences for stating the obvious.
    your background is not "white"...that is not an ethnicity...that is a colour....

    we are ALL just human...ethnicity is only a way of being proud of your ancestry, your customs and celebrating your diversity....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dancingqueen View Post
    Do you believe in evolution?
    not Herbert Spencer's take on it.....

    evolution of complexity was radically different from that to be found in Darwin’s Origin of Species which was published two years later. Spencer is often, quite erroneously, believed to have merely appropriated and generalized Darwin’s work on natural selection. But although after reading Darwin's work he coined the phrase 'survival of the fittest' as his own term for Darwin's concept

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom View Post
    not Herbert Spencer's take on it.....

    evolution of complexity was radically different from that to be found in Darwin’s Origin of Species which was published two years later. Spencer is often, quite erroneously, believed to have merely appropriated and generalized Darwin’s work on natural selection. But although after reading Darwin's work he coined the phrase 'survival of the fittest' as his own term for Darwin's concept

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Spencer
    Is it fair to say that you believe in evolution, just not as it is commonly understood?
    For example that animals, through time, develop abilities to adapt to their changing surroundings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dancingqueen View Post
    Is it fair to say that you believe in evolution, just not as it is commonly understood?
    For example that animals, through time, develop abilities to adapt to their changing surroundings?
    only as it applies to animals...not humans.....
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    Humans can not evolve anymore than what we have. In order to evolve, we need to get stronger. We can not get stronger if we are content on how we live now. We adapt our surroundings instead of adapting to our surroundings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabby View Post
    Humans can not evolve anymore than what we have. In order to evolve, we need to get stronger. We can not get stronger if we are content on how we live now. We adapt our surroundings instead of adapting to our surroundings.
    And thats why major military conflicts are a necessary evil. Since homo sapian has managed to totally circumvent natural selection, technology and societies become stagnant. Unfortunatly the only way we get major advances in any field within a reasonable time span is through war, otherwise greed is content with being stagnant since thats where the money is to be made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabby View Post
    Take a white sheet of paper and hold it up to your skin and see how you compare.
    It depends on what month it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom View Post
    We are all just people....some of us have different ways....none wrong, just different....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Object X View Post
    And thats why major military conflicts are a necessary evil. Since homo sapian has managed to totally circumvent natural selection technology and societies become stagnant. Unfortunatly the only way we get major advances in any field within a reasonable time span is through war, otherwise greed is content with being stagnant since thats where the money is to be made.
    natural selection technology?
    We cannot simply think of our survival; each new generation is responsible to ensure the
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    …Indigenous people are the poorest of the poor and the
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