Anglican conversion to Catholic Church swells

[RWGR]

About 900 members of the Church of England have taken the first step toward becoming Catholics, the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales declared in a March 15 statement. The former Anglicans participated in a Rite of Election, the first step toward confirmation, over the March 12-13 weekend, the church said. Those embracing the Catholic Church will be joining the Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham, established by Pope Benedict XVI to receive Anglicans who have felt isolated since the Church of England decided in 1992 to ordain women to the priesthood.

http://www.speroforum.com/site/artic...+Church+swells

Being a pro-Catholic thread this probably violates some unknown rule. If so, please accept my apologies forthwith.

[Soundbear]

I suppose the Anglicans and others could do this:

http://www.technomancy.org/catholic-defection/

Leaving the Catholic church no longer possible.

"However things have changed. The Catholic Church have changed their rules and no longer allow people to leave/defect. I filled in all the forms and sent them off. I got this letter back from them, basically saying you can't defect anymore, but they'll remember that I want to defect."

[Soundbear]

http://news.scotsman.com/romancathol...ver.6687185.jp

Austria: Catholics leaving Church.....January 2011

More Roman Catholics left the Church in Austria last year than at any time since 1945, Church officials announced yesterday, ....
Figures published by the Austrian Bishop's Conference said 87,000 Austrian Catholics left in 2010 - a 64 per cent increase over 2009

[Soundbear]

http://theimpudentobserver.com/world...danish-church/

"There are only about 35,000 Catholics in Denmark and annually about two dozen might leave the church for one reason or another, but in the past few weeks there has been a dramatic rise in the number who simply can not take anymore ........” It is estimated about 70-90 already have left within the past few months. The numbers are small, the reasons are weighty. ..... Denmark might be the symptom of a greater issue that impacts millions."

[Soundbear]

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/246582

"Why are Catholics leaving the church to join evangelical movements?"

"Cardinals are trying to figure out why many Catholics are leaving the church to join Pentecostal and other evangelical movements. They feel they need to see what their shortcomings are as to way they are losing many of their flock. "

"The Vatican describes Protestant evangelicals as "sects" in Latin America, Africa and other countries. Just in Brazil alone in the 1960s Roman Catholics were about 90 percent of the population but by 2005 they were down to only 67 percent. "

[Soundbear]

http://www.expatica.com/de/news/loca...ort_36966.html

March 2010
German Catholics leaving Church in droves: report

Germany's Catholic Church is losing thousands of members in its southern heartland........, a press report said on Wednesday.

The diocese of Freiburg lost 2,711 members in March, while 2,676 turned their backs on the Church in Rottenburg-Stuttgart, the Suedwest Presse local daily said.

[Bluesky]

SB, Please don't do this. It makes us all look bad to play his game.

It'd be so easy to add up the numbers of people leaving the RCC church, and they would vastly outnumber those converting to Rome. But what will the result be?

Soonetters who are disgusted with the church all around.

[Soundbear]

SB, Please don't do this. It makes us all look bad to play his game.

It'd be so easy to add up the numbers of people leaving the RCC church, and they would vastly outnumber those converting to Rome. But what will the result be?

Soonetters who are disgusted with the church all around.

I thought I'd look around a bit, just to get a better handle on just how the situation is playing out around the world. Whether Winger's viewpoint is anywhere near true.

It ain't.

And I also thought about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxfj9xfSN7w

Sometimes there's a limit.

[RWGR]

The differences in converts is the quality of the convert.


Do many Catholics leave the RCC for Protestantism? Yes. But that is simply because Protestantism is easy-it is meeting God on mans' terms. Catholicism is meeting God on God's terms. So lukewarm Catholics will surely find what they are looking for in Protestantism: A "Do it Your Way" religion...I like this, not this...this is okay, I'll take some of that...not too much of that.

It's the type of converts that makes all the difference. And the RCC gets some of the most educated Protestants to convert.

Compare the pedigree of most converts. You don't see many former Catholic priests converting to Protestantism, but you do see a relatively large number of former Protestant preachers and apologists crossing the Tiber to Rome.

Why is that?

Because as former Protestant John Henry Newman famously said: "To be steeped in Church history is to cease being Protestant".

[Bluesky]

Protestantism is easy-it is meeting God on mans' terms.

Well, that is the eternal argument, isn't it? I mean, if this statement were objectively true, (Catholicism is meeting God on God's terms. ) we had all better don our bathing suits.

But from our pov, is the RCC not a religion chock full of terms that the RCC has laid down over the centuries? Are those not terms that MAN has laid down?
That is precisely the circle around which we will keep dancing.
So your statement is a bit of a question begging exercise.

Furthermore, I say it is easier for a Protestant move towards Rome than the other way around.
Because I know the backstories of the many former Roman Catholics among my acquaintance.

[Soundbear]

"...but you do see a relatively large number of former Protestant preachers and apologists crossing the Tiber to Rome. "

And how many evangelicals??

I also note, since you raised it, the so-called "quality" of the average catholic, as far as what he REALLY knows about God's word, or even exactly what his church teaches.

I'll soften that by stating that, of the Catholics I know personally, they are humble, God fearing folk, who trust in Christ as a child would its mother, and don't get too concerned about theology.

[RWGR]

And how many evangelicals??

Many.

I also note, since you raised it, the so-called "quality" of the average catholic, as far as what he REALLY knows about God's word, or even exactly what his church teaches.

Do you not think there are many, many Protestants who are also lukewarm about their general Christian knowledge?

I'll soften that by stating that, of the Catholics I know personally, they are humble, God fearing folk, who trust in Christ as a child would its mother, and don't get too concerned about theology

Yeah, if theology is something that just doesn't matter that much then those people would be much better off being Protestant. As the prevailing cultural winds change, so Protestant theology changes.

[NewCasa]

So the point of this thread is that RWGR's team is winning? Ok thanks got it.

[RWGR]

So the point of this thread is that RWGR's team is winning? Ok thanks got it.

Nope, the point is you are angry for not having a substantive comeback.

[NewCasa]

Nope, the point is you are angry for not having a substantive comeback.

You're really stretching there dude. I'm totally not angry. I just think you're silly because you're treating religion as a competition sport. Ridiculous.

[RWGR]

You're really stretching there dude. I'm totally not angry. I just think you're silly because you're treating religion as a competition sport. Ridiculous.

Not at all. You're angry because your level of knowledge on this issue is very lacking. As such, you lash out.

And the fact you fully engaged in the sexual abuse issue when it focused on Catholics, yet you totally ignore the issue when it focuses on Protestants, shows if anyone in here sees this as sport, it is you.

[NewCasa]

Not at all. You're angry because your level of knowledge on this issue is very lacking. As such, you lash out.

And the fact you fully engaged in the sexual abuse issue when it focused on Catholics, yet you totally ignore the issue when it focuses on Protestants, shows if anyone in here sees this as sport, it is you.

Nope, didn't ignore it at all. Just got sick of the topic - there just seems to be way too much sexual abuse in your religious institutions overall.

Honestly, I don't even see an issue here. So people want to switch teams. Big deal.

[Bluesky]

SB, you need to call this conversation! Bashing is not allowed.
Name calling is bashing. I'm sick and tired of this childish crap

[RWGR]

SB, you need to call this conversation! Bashing is not allowed.
Name calling is bashing.

Marching orders!!

[dancingqueen]

It will be locked... SB's savior has said so, not because the moderator is able to independently identify this as problematic or anything....
R W G R, I can tell you with 100% certainty that Newcasa abhors sexual abuse in any way, equally. It looks worse coming from any religious institution, not because it is worse, but because religious leaders have a responsibility of being the moral code by which to follow, they are supposed to tell us how to live our lives and for many of these victims where their morality lies, the behavior is incongruent with their teachings.