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    I didn't think you'd get it!!!
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundbear View Post
    I didn't think you'd get it!!!
    Settle down, champ. I got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundbear View Post
    Sorry you see it that way.

    Some of the most Christlike people I know are those who would never take part in a dicussion of this type. It would be way beyond any interest or concern to them. They are, through many of life's trials, just trusting in God. And as far as I'm concerned, that's the best way to be.

    Tell me why you think it's false.
    There are more than the options of blindly trusting in God and thinking you know better than him... You can think independently while maintaining his lessons, you can think you know better about how the world works today than those who where inspired by the word of God, you can take up so many more possible paths. That is what is false about what you said.
    And it is not a matter of how I see it, it is how it is. You tried to pass off only two options as if they are the only possible options, they are not, as I have shown.
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    "And it is not a matter of how I see it, it is how it is."

    And what would you say if I posted that???
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundbear View Post
    "And it is not a matter of how I see it, it is how it is."

    And what would you say if I posted that???
    If you could back up what you said I would take it for what it is.
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    Sure you would.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundbear View Post
    Sure you would.
    try it sometime.... anytime.....
    perhaps we may even be able to discuss things better than that of bickering children (Yes I admit, I bicker with you a lot like a child)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundbear View Post
    Can we disagree, and not be intolerant??

    IMO, disagreement is discussing the pro's and cons of a subject.

    Intolerance is taking action that directly affects the person you disagree with.

    Cooments??
    Time to bump up one from the past.

    It seems someone has been taking a lot of action due to their lack of tolerance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiny_tim View Post
    Time to bump up one from the past.

    It seems someone has been taking a lot of action due to their lack of tolerance.
    I confess to being intolerant of insults, attacks, and rule breaking.

    I don't see a problem with that.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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    Maybe you should spell out your definition of these things. I'm still looking for the signature rule BTW.

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    Sorry, not interested in dragging it out.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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    I remember raising a topic that on screen elsewhere on-line attracted over 25,000 views.

    It so surprised me that I wondered if the number had been tampered with from the inside.

    After sufficient thought I concluded that it was a valid account of the viewership pending sufficient proof otherwise .

    It was only within about the hour that I became aware of the large number of views.

    I mean to the Topic started by the monitor of the religion part of this site.

    There are also a lot of posts considering the average action in terms of messages through the years to this point.

    Would you kindly not jump to any conclusions ?
    Last edited by MsBelsito; 09-06-2012 at 12:45 PM.

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    I think the topic is such a meaningful one amidst others even had it not attracted such an, apparently, large viewership number.
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    Recently, there has been an issue raised about this site not being fun as it used to be along with emphasis, thereby, on some other site implying fun there.

    I like it where politeness is considered also a PUBLIC value and expected to be applied in here.

    As far as real fun goes actual " GOOD TIMES " are possible on-line.

    I am not at all suggesting that in person interractive human relations are not important to work at within reason.

    Too many seem to think fun means at the expense of one's fellow human being as in one up games, ridicule and general twisted behavior.

    Another matter involves an issue about being right mattering to whoever.

    What I argue is what is the point of debating anything, if seeking to sort out the truth is not important to those involved when it is possible to get at within reason.

    Naturally, that involves consideration.

    In my view, it is otherwise unreasonable, argumentativeness and cruelty that enables an unwholesome enviroment rather than a good one.

    Also when someone in the wrong claims to be right it does not make sense.

    A good atmosphere is by far NOT a dull, boring and pointless one.

    I am aware of a site where there's on the average a lot of action. What increases the number of posts are one up games and other infighting just to argue which is an atmosphere that is not good for anyone. It all equates to a complete waste really for them.

    No consistent meaninfulness !

    I prefer quality to quantity in on-line messaging when a big number is going to mainly involve actual disruptive, unruly, cruel behavior and/or passivity like a robotic mindset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsBelsito View Post
    Recently, there has been an issue raised about this site not being fun as it used to be along with emphasis, thereby, on some other site implying fun there.

    I like it where politeness is considered also a PUBLIC value and expected to be applied in here.

    As far as real fun goes actual " GOOD TIMES " are possible on-line.

    I am not at all suggesting that in person interractive human relations is not important to work at within reason.

    Too many seem to think fun means at the expense of one's fellow human being as in one up games.

    Another matter involves I think the same poster raising an issue about being right mattering to whoever.

    What I argue is what is the point about debating anything, if seeking to sort out the truth is not important to those involved when it is possible to get to it, within reason.

    In my view, it is otherwise unreasonable and argumentativeness which is a complete waste of time and more enabling an awfully unwholesome enviroment.

    Also when someone in the wrong claims to be right it does not make sense.

    A good atmosphere is by far a dull, boring and pointless one.

    I am aware of a site where there's on the average a lot of action. What increases the number of posts are one up games and other infighting just to argue which is an atmosphere that is not good for anyone. At the end of the day so to type it all equates to a complete waste really for them.

    It equates to no meaningfulness !

    I prefer quality to quantity in on-line messaging and elsewhere in other respects. I mean when a big number is going to mainly involve actual disruptive, unruly, cruel behavior and/or passivity like a robotic mindset.
    Quality and not quantity! You are so right! I could say the same about trying to sound so intelligent but ......

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    Ignoring is safer.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundbear View Post
    Ignoring is safer.
    The only way I can ignore is to turn this stupid machine off and go do something constructive!

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    Clarification

    I posted in a hurry earliar so made some innocent oversights.

    Needed revisions also have been made quickly so if there is further need I'll gladly make them.

    [QUOTE=MsBelsito]

    Recently, there has been an issue raised about this site not being fun as it used to be along with emphasis, thereby, on some other site implying fun there.

    I like it where politeness is considered also a PUBLIC value and expected to be applied in here.

    As far as real fun goes actual " GOOD TIMES " are possible on-line.

    I am not at all suggesting that in person good interractive human relations are not important to work at within reason.

    Too many seem to think fun means at the expense of one's fellow human being as in one up games, ridicule and general twisted behavior.

    Another matter involves an issue about being right mattering to whoever.

    What I argue is what is the point of debating anything, if seeking to sort out the truth is not important to those involved when it is possible to get at within reason.

    Naturally, that means with consideration.

    In my view, it is otherwise unreasonable, argumentativeness and cruelty that enables an unwholesome enviroment rather than a good one.

    When someone in the wrong no matter what claims to be right it does not make sense.

    A good atmosphere is by far NOT a dull, boring and pointless one.

    I am aware of sites where there's on the average a lot of action. What increases the number of posts are one up games and other infighting just to argue which is an atmosphere that is not good for anyone.

    It all equates to aggravating themselves, each other and waste resolving nothing.

    No consistent meaningfulness !

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    I beleive Ms Belsito is on the verge of being guilty of flooding the board with her posts.
    The heart of the human problem is the problem of the human heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesky View Post
    I beleive Ms Belsito is on the verge of being guilty of flooding the board with her posts.
    Close.

    Testing our tolerance, certainly.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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