Don't Ask don't tell

[Larimar]

The don't ask don't tell rule has been repealed for the army in the US


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...-repealed.html

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[Larimar]

I think this is agood thing. Something Obama promised to do and acted on.

[RWGR]

I think this is agood thing. Something Obama promised to do and acted on.

Only slightly less rare than a unicorn.

[Larimar]

Only slightly less rare than a unicorn.

true. right down to the dog he told people he'd rescue and never did

[Mr belsito]

Like honey, did you cheat on me ? Dont ask , dont tell

[ArcticBlue]

Like honey, did you cheat on me ? Dont ask , dont tell

How inappropriate, considering the true meaning of DADT. The people who benefit from this have given up a lot in their lives for their countries and they can finally be true to themselves. Maybe if you didn't have that freedom, you'd be a little more sensitive to the subject.

[dancingqueen]

I think this is agood thing. Something Obama promised to do and acted on.

This is just something that had to happen as times change.
From what I have read about DADT was that it was first implemented in around the 60's because prior to that military officials would investigate and essentially harass people if they caught wind that someone may have the gay. This was during a time when people where afraid of the gays what with AIDS being transferable via touch and whatnot, Furthermore, that the gays had no control over their sexual appetite and apparently had to have sex with anything with a *****, and this was an uncontrollable urge. Well, back then, there where no women really in the army, and times would get lonely... either that, or there where a lot of the gays in the military at the time. Lots of people would be accused of homosexual activity, since there is no army when you discharge everyone, thus began DADT Initially it was a loop hole created to allow the gays to serve. Now that that is no longer necessary, since we now know that the gays can control their sexual urges, and that you cannot get AIDS from touching DADT is pointless and unnecessary as well.

Interesting tidbit, apparently USA was the only country in the world that forbade the gays from serving...

[italiandomino]

maybe the US should allow pink camo clothing for those wonderful military men and women who are serving, that way the enemy knows who is a good solider and who will be the prison B*tch when captured.

[italiandomino]

I dont understand the need for gay ppl to be out in the open ?? really .. i watched the news and all of the sudden military ppl are "my name is ______ and I am gay".

like really. Who cares.

Your in a squad of 20 guys and your the only gay one, guess who the other 19 are going to sacrifice first. In a culture where being in the military is cool and tough and macho .. why would you want to be prouncing (sp) around wearing your pink camo uniform when there are angry terrorists who are looking for a good target. I dont get it.

[dancingqueen]

It's easy for a straight man to say "why do gay people need to be out in the open" How many times at work do you say things like "my wife" or "her parents" etc... don't pretend you don't, everyone does it, for you it's insignificant and gets said without notice, but if you're not straight it is very noticeable and is kinda a big deal. You are in a privileged position regarding this, and it's full ramifications are insignificant at most for you. must be nice to be able to make such judgments from your position.

[dancingqueen]

and as I have found out... the USA is the only country IN THE WORLD to have ever made this discrimination, your presumptions about other solders sacrificing the gay ones first is not only ridiculous, but also ignorant and kinda disgusting.

[stupefied]

From what I have read about DADT was that it was first implemented in around the 60's because prior...

Wrong.

Interesting tidbit, apparently USA was the only country in the world that forbade the gays from serving...

Wrong.

Most, if not all countries have kept homosexuals out of the Military at some point. Canada didn't allow them until fairly recently actually. As for DADT it was a Clinton era compromise.

[dancingqueen]

Wrong.

Sorry, you'r right, I must have gotten the date mixed with something else, It was '93 (now what was I thinking about?)

Most, if not all countries have kept homosexuals out of the Military at some point. Canada didn't allow them until fairly recently actually. As for DADT it was a Clinton era compromise.

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That's what I read from the Wikipedia article. I know it is not completely reliable, that's why the "apparently"
Do you happen to have a source? Just for curiosity's sake.
Thanks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_ask,_don't_tell

[stupefied]

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/11/wo...rmy-rules.html

That link is for Canada. It was a charter challenge that led to the change. Many countries wouldn't allow it at some point due to homosexuality being considered a mental disorder. The info isn't hard to find though the one that might interest you is the results of a study by the US on the effects of the lifting of it by Canada. Not sure why the US has resisted for so long.

http://www.palmcenter.org/press/dadt...ry_performance

[italiandomino]

It's easy for a straight man to say "why do gay people need to be out in the open" How many times at work do you say things like "my wife" or "her parents" etc... don't pretend you don't, everyone does it, for you it's insignificant and gets said without notice, but if you're not straight it is very noticeable and is kinda a big deal. You are in a privileged position regarding this, and it's full ramifications are insignificant at most for you. must be nice to be able to make such judgments from your position.

I am not married so i cant say my wife .. and it is her parents .. i dont see your point.

what do you say DQ ? what do you refer to your bf as ? or his parents ?

[italiandomino]

and as I have found out... the USA is the only country IN THE WORLD to have ever made this discrimination, your presumptions about other solders sacrificing the gay ones first is not only ridiculous, but also ignorant and kinda disgusting.

I dont see it as being discriminating at all. And I do apoligize for disgusting you, but guy on guy stuff disgusts me. if you find that discriminating, i am sure i will get over it. But I still think your a pretty good guy DQ

[Mr belsito]

most work places dont care what your orientation is, please stop making it an issue or a topic of conversation !

[dancingqueen]

I am not married so i cant say my wife .. and it is her parents .. i dont see your point.

what do you say DQ ? what do you refer to your bf as ? or his parents ?

Semantics. You discuss your girlfriend and whatnot.
What do I call my BF? I call him my boyfriend... If I had one.
My point being, it is easy, and goes without much notice if you say something like "oh yah, my girlfriend and I went to go see this movie, it was really good." The focus of your conversation is around what movie was it, was it any good, etc... If I say "oh yah, my boyfriend and I went to go see this movie, it was really good." the focus is but your a guy, so your gay? please don't shove your lifestyle down my throat etc... it may not be said, but it is the attitude. As such, you are in a privileged position to be asking "what does it matter?" you see this issue from your perspective as being part of the norm, you do not see it from the perspective of the group you criticize who are outside the norm.

[dancingqueen]

guy on girl stuff disgusts me, and that goes for guys objectifying women like you frequently do. However, I don't make such horrible and unfounded remarks. I still think you are a good guy too, but many of your opinions lack perspective and clarity.