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    Quote Originally Posted by tiny_tim View Post
    Is that relevant to being able to enter a beauty contest though?
    If the rules of the pageant are discriminatory, ... yes.
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    So a 56 year old male should be able to enter? Beauty contests aren't exactly inclusive. What makes this different than discriminating based on age, physical appearance or anything else they consider when determining eligibility to compete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiny_tim View Post
    So a 56 year old male should be able to enter? Beauty contests aren't exactly inclusive. What makes this different than discriminating based on age, physical appearance or anything else they consider when determining eligibility to compete?
    No, it is open to women, which a trans gender person is recognized as under the discrimination laws. A 56 year old woman could compete, or any disabled woman, or a woman of any ethnic origin, or a divorced woman, or a gay woman, .... get the picture.
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    Simple solution to this. Just say she didn't make the cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Handyman View Post
    No, it is open to women, which a trans gender person is recognized as under the discrimination laws. A 56 year old woman could compete, or any disabled woman, or a woman of any ethnic origin, or a divorced woman, or a gay woman, .... get the picture.
    Only in your messed up politically-correct world view. Apparently you swallowed everything you were taught in the government sponsored education sessions you attended quite nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Handyman View Post
    You and I seem to be the only ones that understand this subject, ..... others just want to remain ignorant.
    Well I did take some GBLTTQ awareness workshops in order to understand and work with the issues these individuals face on a daily basis and to understand the mindset of the same people. And yep some do just want to remain ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladywolf 1 View Post
    My opinion, let people live as they friggin' well want to. No, a women's competition is no where "tranny's" "should" be. However, that is up to the rules of that particular contest. Come on people, we act as if we have never heard of this kind of situation before... Be it Beauty Queen or not. Get out more. Watch the news. No one killed anyone here. I'm still mourning the Official Cat.
    Transgendered person is not a tranny please educate yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDawg View Post
    Only in your messed up politically-correct world view. Apparently you swallowed everything you were taught in the government sponsored education sessions you attended quite nicely.
    When you catch up with the rest of the educated people in the world, maybe your statements won't be so uninformed and laughable. I never attended government sponsored education sessions. With your point of view, I am sure you will someday be dining on a healthy portion of humble pie, or facing a hefty fine in court, ... I'll be leading the chuckles when it happens, ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicFingers View Post
    Transgendered person is not a tranny please educate yourself.

    transexual 29 up, 16 down
    a human being whose gender identity differs from her/his genetic sex...male to female (M2F) or female to male (F2M)...s/he may have gone through gender/sex reassignment surgery (post-op) or not yet (pre-op) or never (non-op)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Handyman View Post
    No, it is open to women, which a trans gender person is recognized as under the discrimination laws. A 56 year old woman could compete, or any disabled woman, or a woman of any ethnic origin, or a divorced woman, or a gay woman, .... get the picture.
    If that were the case I would get it. But no, a 56 year old woman cannot compete as they are more than double the age limit. Pretty much every criteria used to determine eligibility would be a rights violation if we were talking about the work place. I don't get how this is different than excluding married women, women who have been pregnant or any of the other discriminatory requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Handyman View Post
    ...I never attended government sponsored education sessions.
    So you attended Catholic schools?? Or private??
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    “The Miss Universe Organization will allow Jenna Talackova to compete in the 2012 Miss Universe Canada pageant provided she meets the legal gender recognition requirements of Canada, and the standards established by other international competitions,” the statement said.

    http://www.thestar.com/news/article/...after-all?bn=1

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    So where do we go from here??

    Will female Olympic events soon be taken over by bigger, stronger, ex-males??

    If not, why not?? Gotta be fair, after all.
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    "The challenge of the path of joy is to create freedom. True joy comes from operating with Inner-Directedness and recognizing who you are." - Sanaya Roman

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    Well I doubt Canada has a chance now that its in the open. I doubt any judge is gonna vote for a tranny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundbear View Post
    So where do we go from here??
    ...back to the Bible to figure out what interpretation this fits in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by offical cat's ghost View Post
    Simple solution to this. Just say she didn't make the cut.
    No, ghost, THAT would be unfair. And a lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Butler View Post
    ...back to the Bible to figure out what intreparatation this fits in?
    Jack, for goodness sake use spell check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicFingers View Post
    Well I did take some GBLTTQ awareness workshops in order to understand and work with the issues these individuals face on a daily basis and to understand the mindset of the same people. And yep some do just want to remain ignorant.
    I'm sure some do.

    And I'm all for treating people fairly.

    But until all of a person's DNA can be changed, not to mention the "creation" or whatever of fully functioning primary and secondary physical sex characteristics, I don't see where discrimination comes into the picture.
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    If this goes the way it seems headed future sports events should be interestingly predictable for betters.
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