"church ends up affirming us rather than challenging our consciences"

[RWGR]

"...the consumer-oriented evangelical culture is facing the twin disasters of selective religious commitment and dissolving religious institutions. Church-shopping (“The kids are more engaged by the Sunday School at First Baptist, but I like the pastor at Four Square Fellowship. However, the worship service at Community Bible is outstanding”) and “priesthood of the believer” extremism lead to exactly the kind of mix-and-match theology that scratches us just where we itch (at least today). As a result, church ends up affirming us rather than challenging our consciences, and we slide ever-deeper into a fully rationalized life."

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner

(by the way, this is written by a Calvinist)

Cafeteria Christianity.

Thank the Reformation.

[Soundbear]

A read of Mr. French's article on the problem does not indicate any difference between Roman Catholic and Protestant churches.

[RWGR]

A read of Mr. French's article on the problem does not indicate any difference between Roman Catholic and Protestant churches.

Wrong. It sees no difference between lax Roman Catholics and lax Protestants, which is good, because there is none.

When you're a lax Roman Catholic, you can leave the fold, but you cannot remake the Church. On the other hand, when you're a lax Protestant, you can leave the fold and create your own church. Huge difference.

Catholicism is meeting God and God's terms. Protestantism is meeting God on Man's terms.

[Soundbear]

True Christianity is meeting God on God's terms.

Denominations have nothing to do with that.

[RWGR]

True Christianity is meeting God on God's terms.

Denominations have nothing to do with that.

So all denominations are right?

[Soundbear]

Hey, all 242 of your are, so you claim.

But what you are talking about now is unknown to me.

[RWGR]

Hey, all 242 of your are, so you claim.

First one to interpret that wins a prize.

But what you are talking about now is unknown to me

Oh, you know...but you try to deflect, because Blue isn't here for you.

[Soundbear]

Just shows again your actual level of involvement in this forum, that you don't know what I'm speaking of, with 242 denominations.

If "True Christianity is meeting God on God's terms.", and "Denominations have nothing to do with that."
then "So all denominations are right?" is a truly stupid question.

[RWGR]

Just shows again your actual level of involvement in this forum, that you don't know what I'm speaking of, with 242 denominations.

My level of involvement in this forum is a personal decision. First of all, you basically ruined this place, and it rarely is a place one feels the need to stop by and see what's going on. Now, delete this remark if you want; however, you made an accusation, and I replied.

Regardless of my level of involvement, it is abundantly clear I can debate circles around you when it comes to religious issues.

If "True Christianity is meeting God on God's terms.", and "Denominations have nothing to do with that."
then "So all denominations are right?" is a truly stupid question

And if I said that I would be given a warning, at the very least.

See why this place is dead? You. You are the reason. You make asinine comments, cannot backup your outrageous statements, and have no intellectual depth. You chased Blue away, for crying out loud. But you still stay around here, like a vulture overlooking the carcass of a once-fun and informative section of the board.

Your dream was always to make this place in your own image. Well, congrats.

[RWGR]

If "True Christianity is meeting God on God's terms.", and "Denominations have nothing to do with that."
then "So all denominations are right?" is a truly stupid question.

Wait for me to "delete" RW again?? Don't bother, I only delete his insults

.....

[Soundbear]

OK, I'll rephrase. My apologies for any perceived insult.

If "True Christianity is meeting God on God's terms.", and "Denominations have nothing to do with that."
then "So all denominations are right?" is a truly nonsensical question

[Soundbear]

Just shows again your actual level of involvement in this forum, that you don't know what I'm speaking of, with 242 denominations.

My level of involvement in this forum is a personal decision. First of all, you basically ruined this place, and it rarely is a place one feels the need to stop by and see what's going on. Now, delete this remark if you want; however, you made an accusation, and I replied.

Regardless of my level of involvement, it is abundantly clear I can debate circles around you when it comes to religious issues.

If "True Christianity is meeting God on God's terms.", and "Denominations have nothing to do with that."
then "So all denominations are right?" is a truly stupid question

And if I said that I would be given a warning, at the very least.

See why this place is dead? You. You are the reason. You make asinine comments, cannot backup your outrageous statements, and have no intellectual depth. You chased Blue away, for crying out loud. But you still stay around here, like a vulture overlooking the carcass of a once-fun and informative section of the board.

Your dream was always to make this place in your own image. Well, congrats.

Your opinion are your opinions. Enjoy.

P.S. I often leave things as is because I feel they show your true character. Your accusations are so often misplaced, it is difficult for anyone to tell which are true. If any.

[Jack Butler]

Your opinion are your opinions. Enjoy.

P.S. I often leave things as is because I feel they show your true character. Your accusations are so often misplaced, it is difficult for anyone to tell which are true. If any.

Kinda like your interpretations...cool!

[Soundbear]

Kinda like your interpretations...cool!

Interpretations of what?? You never wanted to discuss any.

[Soundbear]

Re: OP

A preacher's job: To comfort the afflicted and to afflict the comfortable.

Leaders in churches of all stripes do poorly at that.

[Jack Butler]

Interpretations of what?? You never wanted to discuss any.

Most things, it seems.

[Soundbear]

You don't honestly wonder why I locked that thread, do you???

[The Voice]

OK, I'll rephrase. My apologies for any perceived insult.

If "True Christianity is meeting God on God's terms.", and "Denominations have nothing to do with that."
then "So all denominations are right?" is a truly nonsensical question

So???? Saying some one makes no sense is nicer than saying stupid?

I am pretty much thinking that depends on the tone of your voice. Thilly...

[Soundbear]

So???? Saying some one makes no sense is nicer than saying stupid?

I am pretty much thinking that depends on the tone of your voice. Thilly...

Uh... I don't think you can HEAR my voice.

I suppose if I had used "nonsensical" the first time, ole' Winger wouldn't have given birth to a porcupine, breech presentation....again!!!

[The Voice]

Uh... I don't think you can HEAR my voice.

I suppose if I had used "nonsensical" the first time, ole' Winger wouldn't have given birth to a porcupine, breech presentation....again!!!

?????????