Last edited by The Voice; 04-17-2012 at 09:11 PM.
Say's it here
My point is that the crusades caused widespead death and destruction no matter how the RCC tries to sugar coat them as a cultural exchange.
One WIKI site mentioned above:
"Byzantine Emperor Alexius I in 1095 sent ambassadors to plead for military help from western Europeans at the Council of Piacenza. His empire was threatened by the Seljuk Turks. Later that year, at the Council of Clermont, Pope Urban II called upon all Christians to join a war against the Turks, promising those who died in the endeavour would receive immediate remission of their sins."
Another Wiki site mentioned above:
"The passions aroused in the Christian populace by Urban II’s call for the first crusade moved persecution of Jews into a new chapter in history where these previous constants no longer held."
Sounds pretty political to me, AND the crusade would not have started except for the request of the Emperor.
So let me see the Head of the Eastern Orthodox Church asked the Head of the Western Catholic Church for help(In his War with The Muslims) and this is based on Politics not religion. OK?
Also the Jews were persecuted by Christians and that wasn't religious either.
I guess the easiest thing for me to do is just walk away because You and I don't even agree what religion is.
But first you will have to post a comment after this so you can have the last word in yet another religious thread.
I guess what they might be trying to say is to seperate people from their actions. Actions can be judged but we as people can not judge another person because we don't know what is truely in their heart. An action may be "BAD" but the person may not be. There could be many reasons the person did what they did and not necessarily a choice they would make had they had different tools to make it. HOpe that makes sense. Its one of the basic things we as social workers have to really work on remembering to seperate the person from an action or choice and realizing that a bad choice doesn't necessarily make them a bad person.
So i would say yes you can judge a action or situation without judging a person.
This is one of the reasons I never say to my child you are bad, just cause they did something wrong or bad doesn't make my child bad and don't want to make them take it personal and get a complex so my child learns what he does is appropriate or not and its not him its the action.
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