So the natives are up to their useless tricks again...

[HDV]

The other day I was driving on the old highway through Garden River. On one side of the road was a sign...WELCOME TO GARDEN RIVER and directly across from that sign,on a railway bridge was THIS IS INDIAN LAND. I did not then feel too "welcome".

That has been there for over 30 years.

[DIRECT]

I didn't know but that chief Dean Sayers lives in the USA..what the hell are you over here for anyways?

[Soundbear]

When I first read this thread I thought for sure it would be deleted. I am all for freedom of speech, but this is basically racism and racial stereotyping. Read the complete articles on the protest from any of our local media sources before you jump to conclusions.

A few remarks have been removed. Let's be careful.

And BTW, I can't fault ANY group for doing what get's the most attention!! Squeaky wheels get the grease!!

[bluekrissyspikes]

but don't you think it would be better for them to do something positive for people, to gain their favour? i mean why cause trouble for people that have no control over your issues? do they not realize that if it comes down to voting for things that further their agendas people will remember this crap?

[Anapeg]

but don't you think it would be better for them to do something positive for people, to gain their favour? i mean why cause trouble for people that have no control over your issues? do they not realize that if it comes down to voting for things that further their agendas people will remember this crap?

If a person is happy with a service, job, deed whatever they tell 3 people but if someone is dissatisfied they will tell 11 people. This is a fact anyone who sells advertising can attest to, surveys have been done. It there fore stands to reason by pissing in your corn flakes you, or at least some of you will complain to your government official. We/they can accomplish nothing through normal channels hence the choice to inconvenience you and yours. The government, YOUR government made deals to secure the land you live on and now choose to renege on those treaties. If all was done as was PROMISED then none of this "crap" would be in the news. You/we elect our government so we/they (Natives) go to you, personally to have your chosen leaders do the "right" thing and adhere to the treaties or just give us back what is rightfully ours. Your choice.

[RWGR]

The americans handled it this way

http://www.lastoftheindependents.com/sandcreek.htm

Why couldn't we do things the Canadian Way???

"Canadian policies and legislation since the time of Confederation have served to collectively marginalize First Nations, Inuit and Metis people.
The consequences for First Nation people have been poverty, illness, substandard living conditions, substance abuse issues, high suicide and death rates for some portions of the population"

Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/274825#ixzz1vAj0MVEk

How...'tolerant'

[Soundbear]

Why couldn't we do things the Canadian Way???

"Canadian policies and legislation since the time of Confederation have served to collectively marginalize First Nations, Inuit and Metis people.
The consequences for First Nation people have been poverty, illness, substandard living conditions, substance abuse issues, high suicide and death rates for some portions of the population"

Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/274825#ixzz1vAj0MVEk

How...'tolerant'

The Canadian way?? Perfect?? No.

The American way?? Deadly.

[bluekrissyspikes]

If a person is happy with a service, job, deed whatever they tell 3 people but if someone is dissatisfied they will tell 11 people. This is a fact anyone who sells advertising can attest to, surveys have been done. It there fore stands to reason by pissing in your corn flakes you, or at least some of you will complain to your government official. We/they can accomplish nothing through normal channels hence the choice to inconvenience you and yours. The government, YOUR government made deals to secure the land you live on and now choose to renege on those treaties. If all was done as was PROMISED then none of this "crap" would be in the news. You/we elect our government so we/they (Natives) go to you, personally to have your chosen leaders do the "right" thing and adhere to the treaties or just give us back what is rightfully ours. Your choice.

the government almost never does what they said they would do. I understand what they are mad about, i just don't think their way of trying to force the governments hand is working. is it? maybe time to try something else? i don't see how it would hurt to go about it in a different way, maybe have some kind of awareness day at the pavillion and go out and talk to the public, make friends with them. people stick up for their friends. not so much for someone who goes out of their way to get in your way. i bet if they did things like that instead then they could get the public to rally behind them in support and it would be alot harder for the gov to ignore the issue if they had more people speaking out for their cause. it's just a idea, i think it would work.
also, i won't take responsibility for anything a government signed long before i was here, that really doesn't involve me. i did not vote for whomever was in power at the time the treaties were signed and as far as i know, my ancestors were not here yet at that time so it wasn't them either. i didn't chose to be born here. i am a native to this land also, being that i was born here.
i'm all for everyone getting what is rightfully yours, making good on your word and all but don't drag busy people into your problems at their inconvenience. it's like holding them hostage. you wouldn't want people blocking the roads off, trapping you would you? the only complaining people do is on here and with friends. then you get upset when some people look at natives a certain way, of course you will be looked at as a nuissance if you are causing a nuissance to people. how else are they supposed to look at you? it's the tactics that are the problem. they are not effective and are causing more of a stigma on the community instead of opening the door for compassion and a sense of connectedness. imagine if the natives found a way to reach out to the community in a positive way, how many more supporters do you think they could have, that they are currently driving away?

[bohd]

come to the back of manitou park and see how nice a subdivision they had built....poor poor natives....all new cars and trucks in the their yards etc.....BUT do NOT say a thing...i can because apparentlly i am a racist....nobody say a thing.....just pay up and shut up

Why make the innocent pay for what you think the government is screwing you for?Did that person that was on their way to work deserve to be late for their shift?Did that person that was trying to get home in time for their meds screw you? :Like I read on another site..If you have such big b@lls go sit on Parliament Hill and do your yapping..Let us go on with our lives for we did nothing.One of these blockages ,some one will get ran over.

[Roll The Bones]

"Canadian policies and legislation since the time of Confederation have served to collectively marginalize First Nations, Inuit and Metis people.
The consequences for First Nation people have been poverty, illness, substandard living conditions, substance abuse issues, high suicide and death rates for some portions of the population"

Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/274825#ixzz1vAj0MVEk

How...'tolerant'

For once, I agree with 8 mile... the history and treatment of First Nations people in Canada by our government is shameful and a black mark on our society. In addition, many of the comments found on this thread are sickening.

That being said, I disagree with your earlier posting re liberalism in the 60s being the catalyst... you must be referring to Trudeau's "White Paper"... however this started hundreds of years prior.

[IMHO]

Could they ever be made happy?

Are we racist to expect an accounting of where the money given to them goes?

Did marching on David O's office accomplish even one miniscule thing?

Is irritating the public with roadblocks the way to go ?

Do the native poeple ever take responsibility for what happens on reserves?

I do not know the answers but I see no resolve until there is a little "give" on the part of natives.

[Mr belsito]

For once, I agree with 8 mile... the history and treatment of First Nations people in Canada by our government is shameful and a black mark on our society. In addition, many of the comments found on this thread are sickening.

That being said, I disagree with your earlier posting re liberalism in the 60s being the catalyst... you must be referring to Trudeau's "White Paper"... however this started hundreds of years prior.

So, whats that have to do with today, we were not around then, money isnt going to fix scars !

[Soundbear]

"...how many more supporters do you think they could have, that they are currently driving away?"

None. The native community is well aware of just how they are thought of.

Harassing the public puts pressure on the government to do something.

[bohd]

apparently if you question ANYTHING pertaining to first nations ....you are a RACIST..ask me lol
the social cuts did affect a lot of ontarians (non-native ) too...i guess we should rally it up for outrageous electric bills, smart(idiot) meters...etc etc etc etc... hey why not...if we cry enough maybe something will happen. probably go to jail lolo
everfybody in this dyay and age should pull up their own socks, contribute to this GREAT nation,,,,work together as friends , brothers in arms...

Are we racist to expect an accounting of where the money given to them goes?

Did marching on David O's office accomplish even one miniscule thing?

Is irritating the public with roadblocks the way to go ?

Do the native poeple ever take responsibility for what happens on reserves?

I do not know the answers but I see no resolve until there is a little "give" on the part of natives.[/QUOTE]

[official soonet pu$$ycat]

apparently if you question ANYTHING pertaining to first nations ....you are a RACIST..ask me lol
the social cuts did affect a lot of ontarians (non-native ) too...i guess we should rally it up for outrageous electric bills, smart(idiot) meters...etc etc etc etc... hey why not...if we cry enough maybe something will happen. probably go to jail lolo
everfybody in this dyay and age should pull up their own socks, contribute to this GREAT nation,,,,work together as friends , brothers in arms...

Are we racist to expect an accounting of where the money given to them goes?

Did marching on David O's office accomplish even one miniscule thing?

Is irritating the public with roadblocks the way to go ?

Do the native poeple ever take responsibility for what happens on reserves?

I do not know the answers but I see no resolve until there is a little "give" on the part of natives.

Tell us your opinions on the Italians at the $1 $2 $3 sale.

[Jack Butler]

apparently if you question anything pertaining to first nations ....you are a racist..ask me lol
the social cuts did affect a lot of ontarians (non-native ) too...i guess we should rally it up for outrageous electric bills, smart(idiot) meters...etc etc etc etc... Hey why not...if we cry enough maybe something will happen. Probably go to jail lolo
everfybody in this dyay and age should pull up their own socks, contribute to this great nation,,,,work together as friends , brothers in arms...

Are we racist to expect an accounting of where the money given to them goes?

Did marching on david o's office accomplish even one miniscule thing?

Is irritating the public with roadblocks the way to go ?

Do the native poeple ever take responsibility for what happens on reserves?

I do not know the answers but i see no resolve until there is a little "give" on the part of natives.

Than the Provincial or Federal would have to be accountable for the money they have been given and they're not.

Give a little...you mean give a little more!
Why do you think they're pissed off...shisssh?

[ssmarie]

Tell us your opinions on the Italians at the $1 $2 $3 sale.

this has nothing to do with the thread...what a useless statement

[official soonet pu$$ycat]

this has nothing to do with the thread...what a useless statement

Are you gonna cry about it like everything else. Go cry about a clock that you were going to give away anyway you baby.

[Roll The Bones]

Are you gonna cry about it like everything else. Go cry about a clock that you were going to give away anyway you baby.

a comment like this, which has nothing to do with this discussion, is exactly why FN people will continue to protest...

and if exercising their right to peaceful demonstration pisses off idiots like you, that's fantastic!!!

i hope your car overheats when you're stuck in traffic...

[Roll The Bones]

your ignorance is equally as annoying...

don't you have a toilet to go drink out of?