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    "Protestants believe each person is his/her own interpreter of what the Bible says.

    Yet some Protestants wonder why there is disunity in Christianity.

    Simply amazing."


    RWGR contends that every Protestant can interpret in his own way.

    Several problems with that. If really true, there would not be 40,000 churches as claimed so often, but millions. But there aren't. Furthemore, as Blue pointed out, we agree on probably 95 percent of interpretations, and VERY little of the rest affects true salvation in any way. Another problem with his contention is the fact that we band together in assemblies, with agreement among us as to what we believe. And then there is the work of the Holy Spirit in the believer.

    I like what this says:

    "If we keep this in mind, we will not make the mistake of assuming that any sudden insights we get into the meaning of the Bible are infallible revelations from the Spirit. Nor will we let anyone tell us that interpretations of the bible must be accepted because the Holy Spirit revealed this to them."

    http://www.equip.org/perspectives/th...ing-the-bible/
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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    Actually, SB, I said that we agree on 95% of what belongs in the Bible, NOT on our interpretation of it.

    The problem with our hostile friend, RWGR, is that he does not see that from within his own denomination, he cannot show you the infallible interpretation of every text in Scripture either. Try this experiment. Go to three different priests with a text in mind, and say "Give me the interpretation of this text."

    See if you get the same message from each priest. I'll bet you anything you will come up with three different interpretations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesky View Post
    The problem with our hostile friend, RWGR, is that he does not see that from within his own denomination
    RWGR.... Hostile.... Never!

    Otherwise good point Bluesky. Although I am not a religious person as I don't follow any particular religion, I have in the past encountered many close minded people. A lot of them with rage in their eyes with disagreement about interpretations of texts. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and until we all die and find out the true meaning of the texts written in the Bible are, then who is to say who's right and who's wrong.

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    Still waiting, gentlemen.

    You've proven you are quite adept at attacking people personally...but as far as showing that each Protestant is NOT allowed to interpret the Bible as they see fit, you've not made a dent.

    You never support Protestantism, you simply attack Catholicism.

    This is telling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RWGR View Post
    Still waiting, gentlemen.

    You've proven you are quite adept at attacking people personally...but as far as showing that each Protestant is NOT allowed to interpret the Bible as they see fit, you've not made a dent.

    You never support Protestantism, you simply attack Catholicism.

    This is telling.
    I'm curious how my response attacks the RCC??
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundbear View Post
    I'm curious how my response attacks the RCC??
    Yours doesn't so much, but when you hide behind Blue's none-too-thinly-veiled attacks, you are part of the problem, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RWGR View Post
    Yours doesn't so much, but when you hide behind Blue's none-too-thinly-veiled attacks, you are part of the problem, too.
    Blue said :Try this experiment. Go to three different priests with a text in mind, and say "Give me the interpretation of this text."

    See if you get the same message from each priest. I'll bet you anything you will come up with three different interpretations."

    You certainly SHOULD get exactly the same interpretation from three RCC priests, especially ironic considering youroft expressed view of Protestant handling of Scripture.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundbear View Post
    Blue said :Try this experiment. Go to three different priests with a text in mind, and say "Give me the interpretation of this text."

    See if you get the same message from each priest. I'll bet you anything you will come up with three different interpretations."

    You certainly SHOULD get exactly the same interpretation from three RCC priests, especially ironic considering youroft expressed view of Protestant handling of Scripture.
    You would get the same interpretation. And, why doesn't he ask for that same exercise to be applied to three Prot ministers?

    Because he knows the unfortunate results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RWGR View Post
    You would get the same interpretation. And, why doesn't he ask for that same exercise to be applied to three Prot ministers?

    Because he knows the unfortunate results.
    Oh, he knows the results. So do I.

    You don't.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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    Quote Originally Posted by RWGR View Post
    ...You never support Protestantism, you simply attack Catholicism.
    Since your attacks on Protestants (failing to recognize who they actually are BTW) outnumber any attacks on the RCC about 20 to one, I really don't see your problem.

    On the other hand, I think I do.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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    Quote Originally Posted by RWGR View Post
    You would get the same interpretation. ....
    Let's pick a passage. I know a few priests.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''

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    Quote Originally Posted by RWGR View Post
    You would get the same interpretation. And, why doesn't he ask for that same exercise to be applied to three Prot ministers?

    Because he knows the unfortunate results.
    I am indeed in a position to KNOW with certainty that the critical passages dealing with the essence of the faith are indeed interpreted the same way among thousands of Protestant churches in Canada.
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